Obama pushes for world climate pact after China deal

US President Barack Obama speaks at the University of Queensland on the sidelines of the G20 Summit in Brisbane on November 15,
US President Barack Obama speaks at the University of Queensland on the sidelines of the G20 Summit in Brisbane on November 15, 2014

A Sino-US breakthrough on reducing carbon emissions proves a global deal on climate change is achievable, US President Barack Obama said Saturday, as campaigners hailed new momentum in long-stalled talks.

Announcing a $3 billion contribution to a UN-backed climate change mitigation fund, Obama said the China-US deal showed the way forward.

"If China and the US can agree on this, then the world can agree on this—we can get this done," he said in a speech on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Brisbane.

The UN and environmental campaigners welcomed the funding pledge, saying it confirmed global warming is now central to the world political agenda following the surprise deal between Washington and Beijing earlier this week to curb their greenhouse emissions.

Climate experts conceded that Republican opposition meant Obama could struggle to fulfil his $3 billion commitment, but said he was fuelling momentum for change in an area where talks have faltered since the historic Kyoto Protocol of 1997.

"You can sense the energy lifting in this critical conversation across the planet—the game has changed," Greenpeace Australia chief executive David Ritter told AFP.

"A global deal has become more likely, no question. Climate is now front and centre for the US, it's front and centre for China, that means it's front and centre for all of us. It's now up to all governments to build on these huge steps forward."

'Leapfrog' dirty development

Obama outlined his pledge to the Green Climate Fund (GCF) in a speech at the University of Queensland, telling the Australian audience he wanted his grandchildren to be able to visit the country's famed Great Barrier Reef "50 years from now".

He said the fund would help developing nations cope with climate-related issues such as rising seas while also backing environmentally friendly infrastructure projects.

Impacts of climate change
Graphic showing the impact of climate change on sea levels and surface temperature

"(It will) let them leapfrog some of the dirty industries that powered our development and go straight to a clean energy economy," he said.

Obama's announcement stymied efforts by G20 host Tony Abbott—who questions the science of man-made climate change—to reduce the issue to the margins of the Brisbane summit.

"I know there has been a healthy debate in this country about it," the American leader said, adding that "change is uncomfortable and difficult".

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon described climate change as "the defining issue of our times" and urged other G20 leaders to contribute to the GCF, which will hold a donors' meeting in Berlin on November 20.

"The transition towards a low-carbon, climate-resilient future is accelerating," Ban, who will host talks in Paris in December next year aimed at reaching a global agreement, said in Brisbane.

"I urge other leaders and major economies, especially at the G20, to come forward with contributions that will sustain this momentum."

'Clear message'

The GCF is designed to help poorer countries invest in green technologies and build up their defences against rising sea levels and increasingly extreme weather patterns.

A tourist wearing a face mask climbs Jingshan Hill beside the Forbidden City as heavy air pollution shrouds Beijing
A tourist wearing a face mask climbs Jingshan Hill beside the Forbidden City as heavy air pollution shrouds Beijing

"To see the US put $3 billion into the fund is further evidence that they're determined to see a done by next year," said Tim Flannery of the Sydney-based Climate Council.

"It's a clear message to the world that the US has moved on this issue and it expects the rest of the world to move."

France and Germany have already pledged $1 billion each, with Japan reportedly set to announce a $1.5 billion donation this weekend in Brisbane.

UN climate chief Christiana Figueres has called for an initial capitalisation of $10 billion by the end of the year.

However, Republican James Inhofe, regarded as the chief climate change sceptic in the US Congress, signalled Obama would struggle to get the funds through the legislature, particularly after his position was weakened in recent mid-term elections.

"President Obama's pledge to give unelected bureaucrats at the UN $3 billion for initiatives is an unfortunate decision to not listen to voters in this most recent election cycle," Inhofe said.

Michael Levi from the US-based Council of Foreign Relations said the US-China deal was a step forward but warned against getting carried away, saying it amounted only to "incremental" change.


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Nov 15, 2014
Obama will be look back on as an abused man, not given a chance by those whose time in history is over. They started out with the promise to oppose everything he wanted, even if it was good for America. We should impeach the Baggers in Congress.

Meanwhile they can make their silly jokes their racist-inspired hate, as we make the changes necessary to survive in the 21st Century. The pact with China and a new international effort can save the Earth, if we get the hateful Deniers out of the way.

Send them to find those "WMD!".

Nov 15, 2014
"However, Republican James Inhofe, regarded as the chief climate change sceptic in the US Congress, signalled Obama would struggle to get the funds through the legislature, particularly after his position was weakened in recent mid-term elections."
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Politics, not science, and based on religion, . . superstition. We are doomed by conservatives.

Nov 15, 2014
I like the conservative Congressman, a pediatrician, who stated that evolution and biology and embryology were "lies from the pit of Hell".

How would you like to take your kid to that quack?

Nov 15, 2014
Obama? The original empty suit? No bloody likely.

He's a real nowhere man
Living in a nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

Nov 15, 2014
"You need to get out of your mother's basement and do something."
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That's hilarious. Look up my comments.


Nov 15, 2014
Pandora, I am one of those lucky guys who got to be in interesting places and do interesting things. At age 70, I find most of the rest of you do not speak from either real education or experience, but positions based on political prejudice, . . or worse.

Yes, sometimes it's like shooting fish in a barrel, and others like using grenades against them. But I get tired of hearing blabbering based on ignorance and prejudice.

Nov 16, 2014


"However, Republican James Inhofe, regarded as the chief climate change sceptic in the US Congress, signalled Obama would struggle to get the funds through the legislature, particularly after his position was weakened in recent mid-term elections."
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Politics, not science, and based on religion, . . superstition. We are doomed by conservatives.


Freeman Dyson is hardly a "conservative" and "the polar bears will be fine".
"What I'm convinced of is that we don't understand climate." - Freeman Dyson

As a general rule, if Freeman Dyson doesn't understand something, you don't, either.

And GKAM? The difference between the Reps and the Dems is like the difference between being mauled by Cocker Spaniel and being mauled by a Pit Bull. Both suck; one sucks less.

Nov 16, 2014
As a general rule, if Freeman Dyson doesn't understand something, you don't, either.
@shooty
TROLL comment and SPAM

your IQ is only matched by the number of your opposable thumbs
"No balloon and no aeroplane will ever be practically successful."
-William Thomson, 1st Baron Kelvin
If you *have to* pick a genius scientist as your contrarian idol, a towering giant of Lord Kelvin's stature beats the pants off dinky wee Freeman Dyson. -Pink Elephant

for all the good you do with your spam/trolling
you may have well just posted
a member of the paraphyletic group of organisms that consist of all gill-bearing aquatic craniate animals that lack limbs with digits being utilised for battery in a cultural art form that generally involves movement of the body, often rhythmic, and to music

https://www.youtu...Qp-q1Y1s


Nov 16, 2014
Pandora, I am one of those lucky guys who got to be in interesting places and do interesting things. At age 70, I find most of the rest of you do not speak from either real education or experience, but positions based on political prejudice, . . or worse.

Yes, sometimes it's like shooting fish in a barrel, and others like using grenades against them. But I get tired of hearing blabbering based on ignorance and prejudice.
This from someone with the education and experience of a janitor and a repairman, who claims to be an engineer and yet has neither the education, the degree, or the licence.

People here assume that fellow posters are reasonably honest about what they know. You have betrayed that trust by pretending to be something you are not, and by posting facts which are easily disproved.

Nov 16, 2014
Otto, please end your adolescent trashing of me and my experience.

If you have none, it shows.

Thank you.

Nov 16, 2014
I see why most of you are so secret about your own histories. Letting others know how you got your opinion just lets them change the topic to you, dodging the issue. I actually gave them references to a USAF document with my name and picture on it, but they were too scared to look it up.

Otto is a nobody, I think, or he would have the guts to admit his background and the credentials which allow him to criticize others.

Nov 16, 2014
Letting others know how you got your opinion
You claim your opinions are the result of your perspective as an engineer, but youre not an engineer. You were a maintenance guy, and a validater, and a powerpoint jockey. The only qualification for validation for instance is the ability to fill out a form.
Otto is a nobody, I think, or he would have the guts to admit his background and the credentials which allow him to criticize others
Naw people like you have to try to impress people with phoney credentials in order to convince them that their lies are true. Only very small people would feel the need to attempt this.

Your lies and your backround have both been debunked.
gave them references to a USAF document with my name and picture on it
You were a MECHANIC at an AFB. So what? WHY do you think this means you know anything about nuclear reactors??? Why would you think that people would take you seriously after you made such a ridiculous claim?

Nov 16, 2014
your IQ is only matched by the number of your opposable thumbs
--captainStupid
Well, that's certainly 2 more than you.

Nov 16, 2014
Otto, please stop assuming we have similar character. I would not do what seems to be natural for you. Scream "LIAR!", and we understand your own tendencies.

The topic is the rape of the environment by greedy capitalists and how we need the world to help us save it.

Why your fixation on me? Because you have nothing of your own.

Nov 16, 2014
What I showed Otto was the front page of the newspaper of the Air Force Flight Test Center, which included Eddies AFB, Test Pilot School, Rocket Site, and the special projects such as XB-70, XC-142, XV-5, P.1170, U-2, SR-71, YF-12, and others, and including Groom Lake, our auxiliary airfield you know as Area 51.

It was the best year of my life, a communications tech 22 years old working for test pilots and with rocket-powered aircraft.

(sigh, . . . )

Nov 16, 2014
What I showed Otto was the front page of the newspaper of the Air Force Flight Test Center, which included Eddies AFB, Test Pilot School, Rocket Site, and the special projects such as XB-70, XC-142, XV-5, P.1170, U-2, SR-71, YF-12, and others, and including Groom Lake, our auxiliary airfield you know as Area 51.

It was the best year of my life, a communications tech 22 years old working for test pilots and with rocket-powered aircraft.

(sigh, . . . )


GKAM claiming to be someone of note while not providing proof of his identity, while using that identity to claim authority. If any of that were true, you wouldn't be ashamed of telling us who you are. Even still if you were half as qualified as you claim you could easily provide evidence fo at least a miniscule amount of this.

I would be surprised if GKAM actually graduated college and didn't work at a call center for Stratfor.

Nov 16, 2014
"90 companies generate 2/3s of the total global emissions."

Can anybody provide a link to any list of these 90 companies? I'd be interested to see it.


Nov 16, 2014
This one?

http://www.thegua...e-change

All you had to do was look.


Nov 16, 2014
This one?

http://www.thegua...e-change

All you had to do was look.



Notice that it only discusses INVESTOR owned properties, which directly indicates that it's ignoring any state funded agencies like the US military, and the US Congress/everyone else who is a politician.

Again, more propaganda. None of these article or papers ever take a good look at the government sponsored pollution. Which directly indicates how political all of this is.

Nov 16, 2014
The 90 Companies article does not have a strict list, but brings up several, including this paragraph:

"Between them, the 90 companies on the list of top emitters produced 63 percent of the cumulative global emissions of industrial carbon dioxide and methane between 1751 to 2010, amounting to about 914 billion metric tons CO2 emissions, according to the research. All but 7 of the 90 were energy companies producing oil, gas, and coal. The remaining seven were cement manufacturers."

What takes mountains of special steel and concrete? Nukes.

Nov 16, 2014
The 90 Companies article does not have a strict list, but brings up several, including this paragraph:

"Between them, the 90 companies on the list of top emitters produced 63 percent of the cumulative global emissions of industrial carbon dioxide and methane between 1751 to 2010, amounting to about 914 billion metric tons CO2 emissions, according to the research. All but 7 of the 90 were energy companies producing oil, gas, and coal. The remaining seven were cement manufacturers."

What takes mountains of special steel and concrete? Nukes.


Who builds nukes, Governments. Again, you keep ignoring how political this argument is. It's 100% about control.

Nov 16, 2014
For those who will not read it:
"The climate crisis of the 21st century has been caused largely by just 90 companies, which between them produced nearly two-thirds of the greenhouse gas emissions generated since the dawning of the industrial age, new research suggests.

The companies range from investor-owned firms—household names such as Chevron, Exxon, and BP—to state-owned and government-run firms.

The analysis, which was welcomed by the former Vice President Al Gore as a "crucial step forward" found that the vast majority of the firms were in the business of producing oil, gas, or coal, found the analysis, which has been accepted for publication in the journal Climactic Change."

The future is clear: No coal. No nukes.

Nov 16, 2014
The future is clear: No coal. No nukes.


It will never happen. They will never be able to control that many people without that cheap power. It's just simple reality.

Which would mean they aim to reduce population, if they know what is good for them. Goodluck with that...

Nov 16, 2014
One by one we are closing our nuke plants in California.

And what we do, others finally and grudgingly do. So there is not just hope, but progress.

Nov 17, 2014
Thanks gkam, you're right I should have looked first, I heard it from a Stanford talk and didn't realise it had been reported already.

Nov 17, 2014
Casualjoe, Stanford is an interesting place. I once demonstrated the "Electrokinetic Device" of Townsend Brown (look him up), at the Future Energy Fair at Stanford, expecting to see great interest. Instead, mot of the people went to the other side of the campus to listen to some Rooskie give his first West Coast talk. I will never forgive Gorbachev for that.

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