Discovery raises new doubts about dinosaur-bird links

Researchers at Oregon State University have made a fundamental new discovery about how birds breathe and have a lung capacity that allows for flight - and the finding means it's unlikely that birds descended from any known theropod dinosaurs.

The conclusions add to other evolving evidence that may finally force many paleontologists to reconsider their long-held belief that modern are the direct descendants of ancient, meat-eating , OSU researchers say.

"It's really kind of amazing that after centuries of studying birds and flight we still didn't understand a basic aspect of bird biology," said John Ruben, an OSU professor of zoology. "This discovery probably means that birds evolved on a parallel path alongside dinosaurs, starting that process before most dinosaur species even existed."

These studies were just published in The Journal of Morphology, and were funded by the National Science Foundation.

It's been known for decades that the femur, or thigh bone in birds is largely fixed and makes birds into "knee runners," unlike virtually all other land animals, the OSU experts say. What was just discovered, however, is that it's this fixed position of bird bones and musculature that keeps their air-sac lung from collapsing when the bird inhales.

Warm-blooded birds need about 20 times more oxygen than cold-blooded reptiles, and have evolved a unique lung structure that allows for a high rate of gas exchange and high activity level. Their unusual thigh complex is what helps support the lung and prevent its collapse.

"This is fundamental to bird physiology," said Devon Quick, an OSU instructor of zoology who completed this work as part of her doctoral studies. "It's really strange that no one realized this before. The position of the thigh bone and muscles in birds is critical to their lung function, which in turn is what gives them enough lung capacity for flight."

However, every other animal that has walked on land, the scientists said, has a moveable thigh bone that is involved in their motion - including humans, elephants, dogs, lizards and - in the ancient past - dinosaurs.

The implication, the researchers said, is that birds almost certainly did not descend from theropod dinosaurs, such as tyrannosaurus or allosaurus. The findings add to a growing body of evidence in the past two decades that challenge some of the most widely-held beliefs about animal evolution.

"For one thing, birds are found earlier in the fossil record than the dinosaurs they are supposed to have descended from," Ruben said. "That's a pretty serious problem, and there are other inconsistencies with the bird-from-dinosaur theories.

"But one of the primary reasons many scientists kept pointing to birds as having descended from dinosaurs was similarities in their lungs," Ruben said. "However, theropod dinosaurs had a moving femur and therefore could not have had a lung that worked like that in birds. Their abdominal air sac, if they had one, would have collapsed. That undercuts a critical piece of supporting evidence for the dinosaur-bird link.

"A velociraptor did not just sprout feathers at some point and fly off into the sunset," Ruben said.

The newest findings, the researchers said, are more consistent with birds having evolved separately from dinosaurs and developing their own unique characteristics, including feathers, wings and a unique lung and locomotion system.

There are some similarities between birds and dinosaurs, and it is possible, they said, that birds and dinosaurs may have shared a common ancestor, such as the small, reptilian "thecodonts," which may then have evolved on separate evolutionary paths into birds, crocodiles and dinosaurs. The lung structure and physiology of crocodiles, in fact, is much more similar to dinosaurs than it is to birds.

"We aren't suggesting that dinosaurs and birds may not have had a common ancestor somewhere in the distant past," Quick said. "That's quite possible and is routinely found in evolution. It just seems pretty clear now that birds were evolving all along on their own and did not descend directly from the theropod dinosaurs, which lived many millions of years later."

OSU research on avian biology and physiology was among the first in the nation to begin calling into question the dinosaur-bird link since the 1990s. Other findings have been made since then, at OSU and other institutions, which also raise doubts. But old theories die hard, Ruben said, especially when it comes to some of the most distinctive and romanticized animal species in world history.

"Frankly, there's a lot of museum politics involved in this, a lot of careers committed to a particular point of view even if new scientific evidence raises questions," Ruben said. In some museum displays, he said, the birds-descended-from-dinosaurs evolutionary theory has been portrayed as a largely accepted fact, with an asterisk pointing out in small type that "some scientists disagree."

"Our work at OSU used to be pretty much the only asterisk they were talking about," Ruben said. "But now there are more asterisks all the time. That's part of the process of science."

Source: Oregon State University (news : web)

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Jun 09, 2009
"Frankly, there's a lot of museum politics involved in this, a lot of careers committed to a particular point of view even if new scientific evidence raises questions,"

If more writers would acknowledge this fact, we would all benefit.

Jun 09, 2009
had to look at a bird skeleton to realize the connection between an avian thigh and lung, viz:


Jun 10, 2009
xznofile, what makes you think that the thigh bone moves?

Pterosaurs managed to fly ok without a fixed thigh, though. And if they could, why couldn't dinosaurs start off with a moveable thigh and evolve later on to a fixed one?

Jun 10, 2009
I wonder about the early birds. I have never seen any images that I can recall showing the differences between them and modern birds. Or Archeopteryx for that matter.

What I am thinking is that flight may have evolved more than once among the dinosaurs. Bats for instance come from two different lines. The large fruit bats are not related to the insectivores but closer to US, that is they are clearly descended from primates. They even have color vision.

As for the thigh it wouldn't have become fixed until after the birds achieved at least some ability to fly and not just glide.



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Jun 17, 2009

I think the difference is that birds from the outset flapped their forelimbs. I have seen it supposed, somewhere a few years ago, that the truly effective benefit provided to early forelimb flappers was it helped the young ones to escape from ground predators by running up tree trunks; that it was not *lift* into the air but that feathers on the fingers actually provided negative lift which allowed the creatures hind limbs to grip and run but the forelimbs stayed free of the trunk which simplified locomotion. Presumably the creatures would glide back to the ground or to other tree trunks.

The contrast with pterosaurs is that these latter could leap into the air then, by means of subtle changes to their leading edge [finger webbing] flaps and minimalist arm waving, glide to the nearest updraught with minimum energy expenditure. I can see how the under arm webbing was originally a sun-catching device for warm-up on cold mornings and a cooling device [flapping to create air movement over thin membrane with lots of blood vessels]. If it was a species of small dinosaurs, or the juveniles of a bigger species, I can see how little critters with this feature might be prone to being blown skywards now and again, or just leaping in fright and find themselves gliding a distance. It only needed for this feature to provide a significant benefit in some other way - escape from bullies or predators, catching a bug on the wing - and natural selection enhanced it.

Jun 18, 2009
I have seen it supposed, somewhere a few years ago, that the truly effective benefit provided to early forelimb flappers was it helped the young ones to escape from ground predators by running up tree trunks
If these creatures escaped from predators by scampering up tree trunks I would have thought that it would be very unlikely that they then went on to evolve feathered forearms - for the simple reason that in between forearms which could give appreciable lift and ordinary gripping forearms, will be an inbetween stage that wouldn't be very good for either (neither grip nor lift).

Feathers would have been able to evolve only if they didn't compromise existing functions.

I still think it feasible that the forearms developed glide/flight first, then the thigh bone moved around to support the greater demands made on the lungs, before finally assuming a fixed position that is seen in modern birds.

Jul 14, 2009
As far as I can see there is no scientific evidence quoted in the paper that contradicts the hypothesis that birds and dinosaurs share the same evolutionary ancestors and hence I do not expect the paper to have any significant scientific impact.

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