Mental problems twice as likely for cannabis users: report

Oct 04, 2010

Cannabis users suffer mental health problems twice as often as non-users, a study published Monday by Statistics Netherlands said.

"The percentage of people with a less good mental health is two times higher among cannabis users than non-users," CBS said in a statement.

The study, which was carried out between 2007 to 2009 and involved some 18,500 people, found that "20 percent of male cannabis users complained of mental problems, compared to 10 percent among non-users".

The proportion was the same for women, with 28 percent of users complaining of mental problems, compared to 14 percent among non-users, CBS said.

Smokers complained of mental problems such as , melancholy, and impatience, but CBS said the physical health of users and non-users barely differed.

The study found that four percent of the 15-65 year-olds who took part had smoked cannabis at least once in the last 30 days.

Though technically illegal, the Netherlands decriminalised the consumption and possession of under five grammes (0.18 ounces) of cannabis in 1976 under an official "tolerance" policy.

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Quantum_Conundrum
1.3 / 5 (12) Oct 04, 2010
Not too surprising. It's similar to alcohol and cigarettes. You gotta be crazy to ingest or inhale something you know is only going to make you crazier.
dtxx
4.3 / 5 (11) Oct 04, 2010
This is part of the deluge of misinformation being thrown at California's Proposition 19.
Arkaleus
4.7 / 5 (13) Oct 04, 2010
How do you measure mental illness in today's world? Is it measured by your sadness at the state of affairs in the world? If you are melancholy because you are upset about corruption, war, and the abuse of authority, is it a mental illness?

Wouldn't it be more correct to label people who are unaffected and unaware of the conditions of the world as mentally deficient and somehow abnormal?

If you were perfectly happy under a police state with an endless war going on, then in my book you're the very definition of insane.
210
2.4 / 5 (11) Oct 04, 2010
Cannabis, Alcohol, nearly every over the counter drug humanity has ever sold; Further cocaine and all opiates, this is the stuff the opium war was all about - one sector or other society benefitting from the abuse of substances THAT DO NOT MAKE YOU BETTER AT ANYTHING EXCEPT AT LOSING YOUR MIND AND RUNNING FROM THE MANAGEABLE PAIN OF REAL LIFE!
I challenge anyone and everyone: go smoke your dope, then, pick your sport, play it...and tell me if after doing 'IT' you are several magnitudes better than ever before!
BENEFIT: if you are ill take a pill, if life tires, tries and tests you - BEAT THE STREET WITH YOUR FEET: Put on those jogging shoes, hit that speed bag, get your butt down to the library, PUT YOUR DUKES UP!! Do not allow someone else to control your happiness through your veins!
Roland
4.4 / 5 (9) Oct 04, 2010
This article is typical propaganda. Cannabis use correlates with anxiety and sadness, because people use it to treat those symptoms. @210: you advocate runners' high, caused by endorphins, which are similar in structure to morphine. Who are you to pass judgement on people who are only trying to deal with life's uncertainties? I was as good at competitive swimming when high as when not. @Quantum_Conundrum: alcohol & cigarettes kill. Deaths from cannabis: zero. But we live in a society where everyone apparently feels qualified to pass judgement on others, based on no evidence.
dtxx
5 / 5 (5) Oct 04, 2010
A large number of people have been helped through the use of MDMA, Mescaline, Psilocybin, LSD, and other entactogenic/hallucinogenic compounds, I think mr. 210 is talking out of his ass about an area where he has no personal experience or understanding. Check out maps.org. I personally participated in their psilocybin study.
TechnoPagan
5 / 5 (4) Oct 04, 2010
This is such a misleading article. As one of those who is a long time pot smoker and struggles with mental illness, I can tell you why so many turn to marijuana (and frankly I'm surprised it's only double). Marijuana helps alleviate the symptoms of my condition. It not surprising that others use it for the same reason.
210
1 / 5 (6) Oct 04, 2010
@210: you advocate runners' high, caused by endorphins, which are similar in structure to morphine. Who are you to pass judgement on people who are only trying to deal with life's uncertainties? I was as good at competitive swimming when high as when not.
Indeed: You took mind altering drugs - those listed in the article are illegal - you took them and THOUGHT you were as good as you could be, sheesh, you were not even yourself!!! Do NOT excuse what you did my leaning on the modified and chemically biased judgment of someone under the influence of YOU-knows-What. How good COULD you have been? That phase of your life is over FOREVER! For all you know, your local DRUG PIMP stole your greatness from you. Yes, I exercise and I EXERCISE judgment. NO ONE sold you that garbage because they wanted you to be GREAT at anything and remember that! You threw money at their feet so they could run through your mind and take whatever they wanted; do you even remember their name?! poooh!
210
1.5 / 5 (8) Oct 04, 2010
@210:..... I was as good at competitive swimming when high as when not.
Well...dude...you have just made my point for me...but...you wrote this ANYWAY!!!!
good grief..!
fadsmashers
5 / 5 (2) Oct 05, 2010
This article is nonsense. For starters it is not scientific, it is not based on measured psychological abnormalities (if one was even to consider the DSM to be a valid measure of mental health) rather participants self-report, nor is it considerate of the variable of age (very important). Anxiety is at the lower end of the neurotic spectrum, and in most cases is generalized i.e. not severely debilitating in any way whatsoever. Sadness and impatience and melancholy are not considered disorders! THIS IS LUNACY! I cannot believe this website would publish this kind of crap, it says alot about its own agenda, and may call into question the validity of the other stuff on here, because if they are letting this slip through then one would be wise to suspect some agenda. I work in addictions and can tell you that almost no one comes in for this drug. This article is garbage.
Arkaleus
5 / 5 (2) Oct 06, 2010
This article is part of the establishment group mind's assault against the effort in California to legalize cannabis. It is very important to the system of governments to prevent individuals from activating hidden functions of the mind, or allow any inward reflections to occur outside of controlled media outlets.

To do so would threaten the illusion and hegemony of Lie. If Americans re-discover the notion of individual freedom and somehow regain control over their own bodies, robbing them and suppressing their liberties might become significantly more difficult.
Skeptic_Heretic
3.7 / 5 (6) Oct 06, 2010
"The percentage of people with a less good mental health is two times higher among cannabis users than non-users," CBS said in a statement.
This study includes clinical depression. Those who are clinically depressed typically turn to substances to feel better.

Do the same survey against alcoholics and I'm willing to bet you'll see a ten-fold increase above and beyond this study.
Skeptic_Heretic
4.1 / 5 (7) Oct 07, 2010
Surprise surprise, there is such a study.
http://www.ias.or...alth.pdf
American research suggests that overall, the prevalence of alcohol dependence is almost
twice as high in those with psychiatric disorders as in the general population.


So if cannabis comes in at 20%, and alcohol comes in at 50%, what does that tell you about American prohibition practices.

kuro, since you take issue with my commentary, how about you enlighten us.
Javinator
5 / 5 (5) Oct 07, 2010
Correlation displayed as causation again...
GSwift7
5 / 5 (5) Oct 07, 2010
You probably would find the same kind of correlation of mental health versus people who are jobless and those with jobs. As with Skeptic's alchohol study, I'm sure this has been studied too.
GSwift7
5 / 5 (4) Oct 07, 2010
lol, I'll bet the cause of all this is housing. I'll bet you'll find that people who live in domiciles of fewer than 1500 square feet are more likely to be jobless, smoke weed, drink in excess, have feelings of depression, and have liberal political views. Statistics can be really fun sometimes. All we need to do is build bigger houses and everyone will be fine.

that was a joke, btw. In reality, I would say that my ex wife is a much more likely cause of the above illnesses. I just can't figure out how so many people seem to be impacted by her. I need to do a study!!!
Otto1882
5 / 5 (3) Oct 10, 2010
Why am I not surprised that physorg is full of pot smoking advocates...

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