Georgia scientists: Gulf oil not gone, 80 pct remains

Aug 17, 2010

(AP) -- Georgia scientists say their analysis shows that most of that BP oil the government said was gone from the Gulf of Mexico is still there.

The scientists say as much as 80 percent of the still lurks under the surface. The Georgia team said it is a misinterpretation of data to claim that oil that is dissolved is actually gone. The report from University of Georgia and other scientists came from an analysis of federal estimates.

Earlier this month federal scientists said that only about a quarter of the oil remained and the rest was either removed, dissolved or dispersed.

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Rev_Blair
Aug 17, 2010
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gunslingor1
5 / 5 (3) Aug 17, 2010
"US scientists said in the inter-agency report that burning, skimming and direct recovery had removed one quarter of the oil. Another 25 per cent had naturally evaporated or dissolved, and 24 per cent had been dispersed, either naturally or chemically, the report said."

-Now here is the non-disceptive and scientifically accurate way to write that report, without propaganda and without standing on plausible deniability rather than science:

"US scientists said in the inter-agency report that burning, skimming and direct recovery had removed one quarter of the OILY WATER (BASED ON XXX BARRELS PER DAY LEAKING INTO THE GULF). Another XXX% had naturally evaporated, XXX% dissolved, and 24 per cent had been dispersed, either naturally or chemically, the report said. Based on these numbers, a minimum of 50% of the oil remains in dispersed/disolved form, 25% is unaccounted for at all, and we don't know how much oil is in the "oily water""
gunslingor1
4 / 5 (4) Aug 17, 2010
Rev_Blair,

God didn't do this, we did this. Take responsibility for your species.

God did everything in his power to stop this. He burried the oil 80 miles offshore below a mile of water, below 2 miles of dirt. What else do you expect from him? The accident would not have occured if only BP, Haliburton, and TransOcean had followed their own procedures that they themselves developed and hadn't ignored the warnings of engineers to maximize profit for every penny.

God had nothing to do with it, we did this to ourselves.

Notes:
-they still haven't released the actual measured oil flow, which they DO know. They need that measurement prior to topkill.

Skeptic_Heretic
5 / 5 (2) Aug 17, 2010
The internet is buzzing with articles and excellent blogs. But could it be simply the biblical sequence of God's wrath being poured out upon the earth which is relevant to current events in today's world. What if we are dealing with the wrath of God?


Mr Blair,

Your mythology book says that the world will end while Jesus' contemporaries still live.

That was over 1900 years ago at the latest. Try again.
JamesThomas
5 / 5 (5) Aug 17, 2010
Here we are in 2010, and it seems many have never evolved beyond the childish drama of the gods of the ancient Greeks. The names may have changed, but the drama pretty much remains the same: If you don't have the intellectual ability to begin to understand something, then the god's must be doing it.

With this kind of petrified mentality, we're doomed.
gunslingor1
5 / 5 (5) Aug 17, 2010
Here we are in 2010, and it seems many have never evolved beyond the childish drama of the gods of the ancient Greeks. The names may have changed, but the drama pretty much remains the same: If you don't have the intellectual ability to begin to understand something, then the god's must be doing it.

With this kind of petrified mentality, we're doomed.


I do somewhat agree. Modern religiousity likes to separate themselves from the greeks by claiming monotheistic religion. I think this is completely false.

best definition I found: A God - a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship;

By any similiar definition, the devil is a god, so are angles and demons, spirits, the father, the son, and the holly ghost, saints, etc etc etc...

I agree James, if you base your decisions and reactions on beleif and desires rather than science and observation, you should stay out of all science and just be a follower.
3432682
1 / 5 (5) Aug 17, 2010
The oil is hiding, just like the heat from global warming is hiding, in the deep blue sea. Or not. Until there is some proof, keep your hand on your wallet. The greenies will be ruined, again, if the greatest natural catastrophe in the history of the US turns out to be nothing more than a few hundred acres of oiled marshes. In the meantime, the Gulf naturally seeps 50-100 millon gallons of oil per year naturally (compared to the 200 million gallons of the leak) and we never even noticed. The greatest devastation was to the Florida Gulf tourist industry, damage which was completely unnecessary and due to "news media" hype.
gunslingor1
5 / 5 (5) Aug 17, 2010
3432682,

First off, your thinking natural gas buddy, not oil.

Second off, the oil is still there, you just can't see it. I'm in pensacola fl now, last week I took a battery powered UV light to pcola beach, Oil was freaking everywhere. We caught a few small crabs, guess what.. you can't see the oil under their shells without the UV light, but it is there.

So sure buddy, your right, gulf seafood is fine to eat, I think you should go live off of gulf coast oysters for a few years... ENJOY! Invite all your friend who think like you too, put your money where your mouth is.

Skeptic_Heretic
5 / 5 (5) Aug 17, 2010
In the meantime, the Gulf naturally seeps 50-100 millon gallons of oil per year naturally (compared to the 200 million gallons of the leak) and we never even noticed.

Let's say you have a dog, and over the course of a year it will take 780 shits in your backyard. Doesn't really bother you as you just pick it up and deal with it.

Would it bother you if I dumped 1560 dog shits in your backyard tomorrow? I'm pretty sure it would result in legal action and much yelling and waving of fists. Besides that, I'm sure you'd notice.
The_Overmind
2.5 / 5 (4) Aug 17, 2010
The belief that 75% of the oil "disappeared" had to be the one of the most ridiculous things ever said. Oil is underground for a reason, no microorganism or magical dispersant is going to make it go away. If microorganisms really did eat oil then how could we have any oil at all? The fact is that its under the surface of the water, and well see that when their is not a single fish left in the Gulf and our inlets are stained black. We will not feel the full effect of the spill until years have passed us by. I hope others are not fooled by the news and reports, this disaster will change our nation. Its sad to see the people herded like sheep to the slaughter. Made to believe that a week of clean up,some chemical (which was proven before even used that it had no effect on the oil)and a forgiving mother nature will save us from the worst oil spill in history. The blindfolds must come off before we reach the slaughter house, or we cannot blame anyone but ourselves.
ZagoZana
5 / 5 (4) Aug 17, 2010
3432682? Is this your number on your arrest photos?
First- You think that those who have the most to gain by raping the Earth can be trusted to tell the truth about their practices. This is a fools silly dream. To assume that the Limboesque and BecKKK propaganda, has more weight than the great majority of highly educated scientist, is like playing footsie with a herd of cobras.
Second, the dispersents were used to cover-up the mess they caused. There is now 1,000,000 gallons of poison added to our food chain. Make them eat the the "blackened fish". You should try it, too.
Greed is heartless and you are living in a make- believe world where the good guys play games of live and death with the rest of us.
Third, the seeps are part of the eco-system the chemicals that permiate our modern environment are not. You are allowing these multi-national, anti-patriots to have power over your children's future. This is a sacralige...
ormondotvos
5 / 5 (6) Aug 17, 2010
It's stupefying how many loony people have discovered the internet. God loons, environmental loons, corporate-paid astroturfer shills, paleoconservative paranoiacs, pensioned retirees with a grudge against the Big Gubmint that enforces the laws that guarantee their pensions, gun loons and many others. There's never a break now. From Daily Kos to Red State, Huffington to the RNC, everyone gathers their similars.

Self segregation that build tribalism.
Skeptic_Heretic
5 / 5 (4) Aug 18, 2010
Self segregation that build tribalism.
Very well said, sir.
gunslingor1
5 / 5 (3) Aug 18, 2010
Let me just say the last 4 comments were exceptional. You notice he doesn't post a counter arguement because he simply cannot come up with one that refutes our claims and still aligns with his BELIEFS and DESIRES... He could care less about science and observation.

Best we can expect, he'll change the subject when/if he returns... and I'll be happy to cut that one down too.

God, what are we going to do with our species... sometimes I'm ashamed of my species.
A_Paradox
5 / 5 (1) Sep 08, 2010
Perhaps all the Christians should try a little active imagination: pretend you are back there with Nebuchadnezzar. Except you're not because it's here and now. There's this amazing sort of a glowing finger writing on the wall; a prophet called A_Paradox offers to translate for you.
What are you going to do: stick your fingers in your ears or hear the simple message?
In plain English, the G/god/s/ess/'s last words to human kind are:
"Shape up or die out!"
gunslingor1
Sep 09, 2010
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gunslingor1
5 / 5 (1) Sep 15, 2010
"To find oil in the Gulf of Mexico, either in the sediments or in the water column, is not an unusual thing," said Samuel Walker, technical data manger with the agency. "There's spillage from other vessels, there's leakage from pipelines... there are a lot of natural seeps."

But Joye said explanations like natural seepage are unlikely, given that just a few months earlier, in the same area, her team found almost no evidence of oily sediment.

"It wasn't here in May, right after the spill started," she said. "This layer has developed over the past four months."

http://www.cnn.co...ogle_cnn