Formation of Saturn's ring moons explained

Jun 10, 2010 by Lin Edwards report
The names and average diameters of the moons are indicated in the insets. Data for Mimas, Enceladus and Tethys are also plotted, for comparison. The vertical dashed line shows the location of the outer edge of Saturn’s A ring, at 136,750 km, and the vertical dash-dot line indicates the location of the F ring (a ~1,000-km-wide ringlet located between Prometheus and Pandora). The blue and red lines show simple logarithmic fits to the mass-distance data for the small moons and, respectively, the main moons. Images from the Cassini mission (courtesy of NASA/JPL/SSI, Nature, doi:10.1038/nature09096).

(PhysOrg.com) -- New computer simulations based on data collected by the Cassini spacecraft mission suggest five of Saturn's moons may have been formed only 10 million years ago, and researchers in France and England think new moons could still be formed because the processes that created the ring moons are still active.

Until now most scientists believed the tiny ring moons, Atlas, Janus, Pandora, Prometheus, and Epimetheus, orbiting the planet just inside or just outside the planet’s rings were formed at the beginning of the some 4.5 billion years ago and were captured by Saturn’s gravity. One problem with this theory is that the tiny moonlets, some of which are under 50 kilometers across, should have been destroyed by comets over time.

If the ring moons had formed at the beginning of the solar system they ought to be similar in density to asteroids, but the data gathered by Cassini shows the density of the moons is under one gram per cubic centimeter, which is far less than rock. This suggests they did not condense from a primordial disk of dust and gas at all.

One theory of the moons’ formation was that they formed from material in the rings clumping together, but until now no one had been able to develop a computer simulation that could mimic such a process because of the enormous amount of data that would be involved in the , which would normally need to start at the beginning of the solar system and track each ’s orbit since then.

Now researchers at the Université Paris Diderot in Paris, France and at the University of Cambridge in the UK have created a simplified model that reduced the ring to one dimension. They tested the model against our own Moon’s formation, and then applied it to Saturn. The model shows the 15,000-km-wide main ring, which lies 120,000 km from the center of the planet, would feed material to the empty region just beyond it, where it could aggregate.

Saturn’s rings are composed of ice crystals and tiny dust particles, and lie just outside the Roche limit, which is the minimum distance an object such as a moon can approach a planet without being smashed by the planet’s gravity. Just beyond the Roche limit the researchers’ show the icy ring material can aggregate to form clumps, which can in turn aggregate to form larger clumps that begin to come under the influence of their own and form tiny moonlets and then small moons. As the moons grow bigger Saturn’s gravitational “tide” would then push them outwards.

Astrophysicist Sébastien Charnoz explained that as the simulation proceeds, the aggregates merged to form increasingly larger objects, culminating in tiny moons, just like the ring moons. The model neatly explains why the biggest of the moons lie farthest from the planet, and why the moons lie in the “F-ring,” a dusty ring beyond the A ring. The computer models suggest the F-ring was generated by the tiny moons and moonlets colliding with each other.

Charnoz said the simulation suggests that not all the bodies in the solar system formed over four billion years ago, and the moonlets could have formed as recently as 10 million years ago. It is also quite possible that new moons are forming today, since the process of accretion is still occurring.

The findings are reported in this week's issue of the journal Nature.

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More information: The recent formation of Saturn's moonlets from viscous spreading of the main rings, Nature 465, 752-754 (10 June 2010), doi:10.1038/nature09096

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kevinrtrs
2 / 5 (8) Jun 10, 2010
So what are the starting conditions and assumptions built into that simulation? It's virtually useless to tell us that the simulation shows it happening when these important parameters are left out. I suppose one will have to go and dig up the papers.

Now please explain how Epimetheus and Janus swop orbits every four years. Please.

What predictions does the simulation make with regards to the formation of new moons? When, how and where will the next one form?

Just what information does the model use from the formation of our own moon? How did our own moon form? Give that explanation.

I think it should be remembered that these simulations are just that - simulations.

Take for instance the time factor - why did the rings only manage to accrete into moons 10 million years ago and not sooner? After all Saturn must have been around for billions of years.

Which of course leads to the question: When did the rings form and how? Another unknown asteroid strike? Simulate that!
kevinrtrs
1.9 / 5 (8) Jun 10, 2010
One problem with this theory is that the tiny moonlets, some of which are under 50 kilometers across, should have been destroyed by comets over time.


Ahhhh...! At last some semblance of reality to the interpretation of the observations!

At least the absurd 4.5 billions are being shown the door. So please start asking how those rings could last 4.5 billion years.

jscroft
3.8 / 5 (5) Jun 10, 2010
So please start asking how those rings could last 4.5 billion years.

Who says they did? Most of the cells in your own body are quite a bit younger than you are... it's the PATTERN that persists.

Maybe rings are what you get when you're a really big planet with a really big Roche limit--as Saturn is--and you have lots of cometary near-misses, as Saturn almost certainly does. In that case, if the Oort cloud were to run out of comets, Saturn's rings would eventually dissipate.

Fat chance of that.
kevinrtrs
1 / 5 (6) Jun 11, 2010
Fat chance of that.

REALLY fat chance indeed since the Oort cloud is simply a figment of the imagination. Provide proof of any sighting or detection of such Oort cloud. Please.

So how did those rings originate in the first place? Some collision? And just how do you know it is being replenished? Do you have proof of such replenishment? Does NASA have an official statement on the formation of the rings that includes such a replenishment system? I think not. Where do you get your information from?

jsa09
5 / 5 (5) Jun 11, 2010
@kevinrtrs wow - is there such need to be so aggressive?

We can see the rings so we know they exists everything after that is theory. Some theories are self sustaining and some are not. Some theories outlast others.

What is your problem with this theory? even if it is wrong it seems pretty close to the mark to me. The rings of Saturn must be replenished from time to time.
kevinrtrs
1.2 / 5 (6) Jun 11, 2010
is there such need to be so aggressive

Thanks for reminding me to cool it - not very becoming.
I am simply getting a bit impatient with people insisting on using things which are unsubstantiated, unvalidated and totally invisible as if it were fact - and then building even more substantial new theories on top of those imaginary items.

Skeptic_Heretic
5 / 5 (2) Jun 11, 2010
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's imaginary. Perhaps the limitations are on you and your frustration stems from your lack of education.
RealScience
5 / 5 (6) Jun 11, 2010
kevinrtrs - You are "getting a bit impatient with people insisting on using things which are unsubstantiated, unvalidated and totally invisible as if it were fact"?

Aren't you one who insists on an unsubstantiated, unvalidated and totally invisible creator to explain life?

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