Is a good man still hard to find?

Feb 11, 2010

(PhysOrg.com) -- On Valentine’s Day couples make a special effort to celebrate their relationships. But spare a thought for the so-called ‘desperate and dateless’ - those people who would like to have a partner but can’t find one.

Popular commentators on social trends suggested a few years ago that women, especially those in their early 30s and beyond, have it particularly tough finding a partner because there is a ‘man drought’. It’s been said that outnumber age-for-age at every age from their early 30s until .

For example, for every year of age between 30 and 55, there are about 2000-4000 more women than men, says Macquarie University Professor of Legal Governance Brian Opeskin, who decided to make a detailed study of the topic.

“The study confirms that there is a net shortfall of males, age-for-age, among Australians in their 30s, 40s and 50s. But it appears to be more of a ‘dry’ than a ‘drought’,” Opeskin said.

In relative terms, the shortfall is quite shallow. It is as true today as it was a century ago that there is no serious imbalance of the sexes until older ages, when relationship formation is unlikely to be a major concern. Nevertheless, sex imbalances can be important for sub-populations identified by social status, ethnicity or geographical location - even if they are small for the population as a whole, he said.

Opeskin says it’s a near-universal phenomenon that more males are born than females.

“In most human societies, there about 105 male births for every 100 female but females have the advantage over time because they are more biologically robust. Thus the ratio of the sexes is determined by the balance between the natural processes of birth and death and any effects of migration,” he said.

But Australian females didn’t always have it so bad. Opeskin notes that during colonial days, the relative scarcity of females gave women from even modest backgrounds significant prospects for advancement. But over two centuries that advantage has eroded and the population has become significantly more feminine. Even Australia’s net migration intake has become distinctly more feminine since the 1970s, he said.

Another more sobering reason for the gender imbalance is that males in their 20s and 30s experience two to three times the level of mortality of females of similar age - due mostly to motor vehicle accidents and suicide.

Still, whether it’s a ‘drought’ or a ‘dry’ Opeskin said that Australian policy makers face important challenges in promoting gender balance in the migration program and in ameliorating the large and persistent sex differences in mortality - especially for young adult males.

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fourthrocker
3.7 / 5 (3) Feb 11, 2010
This is totally funny. Our society has changed since women got rights from men picking women to women picking men. Unfortunately women pick men like men pick women, for all the wrong reasons. There isn't a shortage of good men. Women will say they want a good man but they won't pick a good one over a bad one. A good man will show interest in a woman, that is exactly the thing that will make a woman lose interest. Women will pick a disinterested man every time. They will always choose the cool reserved type who acts like he doesn't care and guess what, he doesn't. Then they complain that after they get him he still doesn't care. They say they want a man with a sense of humor, but show a sense of humor right away and it's the kiss of death for your chances. Then they wonder why the guy they get has none. In the early 1900's when men picked women, women were more interested in the quality of the man, now that they all work they only care about looks.
fourthrocker
4 / 5 (4) Feb 11, 2010
So if you want to get the woman you want don't show much interest, don't laugh much, don't make jokes. The worst mistake you can make is let a woman know you really want her. Don't buy anything for a women unless she is already your girlfriend. If you can let her see you with another woman, that will get her interested. Hard as it will be, turn down her first signs of interest. Unless she is desperate or you are Adonis, this is how to get her.
danman5000
3.7 / 5 (3) Feb 11, 2010
@fourthrocker: I hate that BS, but everything you said is completely true. There's a huge disparity between what they say they want and what they actually go for. It amazes me every time I see it. Yes I know there are exceptions, but this is the overwhelming majority.
Preach, brother.
Mauricio
1 / 5 (1) Feb 11, 2010
An underlying economic rule controls the game. What is called "a bad guy", is the one who might have more women-high market supply, so he pays low price (indifferent). Women care about what other women think a lot. It has been observed in other species, like rodents. The female rodents prefer a male with a long sexual history versus a virgin one. It seems that the long sexual history changes the animal's smell. In humans, the acting as if "he is hot", is deception if one is not so attractive and rich (i.e., biological fitness and resources). If he is hot, there are a lot of women out there for him, so he pays low price for women. If he kneels down very fast for a woman, then she might think that his market for women is not very good, so he is not so hot after all.

This model predicts that if the two members of a couple are very attractive, the couple would be very unstable due to the high sensitivity to each other produced by a high constant market supply of partners (brat pit & jolye
pres68y
4 / 5 (1) Feb 11, 2010
You wrote:
"males in their 20s and 30s experience two to three times the level of mortality of females of similar age - due mostly to motor vehicle accidents and suicide."

Hardly, the main reason is the wholesale murder of
young men by the government run military!
_orion
5 / 5 (1) Feb 11, 2010
i dig fourthrocker's approach. he's like a sheep in wolf's clothing.
210
1 / 5 (1) Feb 13, 2010
Well, doggone it:

fourthrocker -HECK!!! Darn it and gee-willickers!!!!!
YOU are right!

No matter how women protest against such cavalier and apparently sexist perceptions and statements...the cad does get the girl.
If you are a good man, you will get 'the last word' however.
Once the cad gets them pregnant and dumps them blind, ALL OF A SUDDEN you are the "...greatest guy..." as well as being the last one she would ever look at!
Yes, I look forward to the day when women will WANT a man and not NEED one based on economics, peer pressure, religious(honor killing nations) pressures or anything but a good eHarmony type survey/test and profound interest in the opposite sex!
Meanwhile, it is a very sad commentary on the state of human interaction that guys and gals, like 'fourthrocker' rule the mating roost...
I hate what you have written but, YOU ARE RIGHT!!!

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