Company alleges Chinese software has stolen code

Jun 13, 2009 By JORDAN ROBERTSON , AP Technology Writer

(AP) -- A California company claims that the Internet-filtering software China has mandated for all new personal computers sold there contains stolen programming code.

Solid Oak of Santa Barbara said Friday that parts of its filtering software, which is designed for parents, are being used in the "Green Dam-Youth Escort" filtering software that must be packaged with all computers sold in China from July 1.

Solid Oak's founder, Brian Milburn, said he plans to seek an injunction against the Chinese developer that built the software, but acknowledged that it's new legal terrain for his company.

"I don't know how far you can try and reach into China and try to stop stuff like this," he said in an interview. "We're still trying to assess what they're doing."

A phone number for the Chinese developer could not immediately be located. A call by The Associated Press to China's embassy in the U.S. after business hours Friday went unanswered.

China has mounted a vigorous public defense of the software, saying it wants it to block violence and pornography. But critics say it censors many more things, and does it on a deeper level than the Internet censorship China currently employs.

China has more than 250 million Internet users and employs some of the world's tightest controls over what they see, often called the "Great Firewall of China," which refers to technology designed to prevent unwanted traffic from entering or leaving a network.

Political sites and others the government deems offensive are routinely blocked, but that happens at the network level. Savvy users can get around it by bouncing through "proxy" servers in other countries, but it takes some sophistication. Blocked sites simply won't load in users' Web browsers.

The new software blocks sites directly from a user's machine.

A report released Thursday by University of Michigan researchers who examined the Chinese software supports Solid Oak's claim that the Green Dam software contains pirated code. The report also found serious security vulnerabilities that could allow hackers to hijack PCs running the Chinese software.

The report found that a number of the "blacklist" files that Green Dam employs were taken from Solid Oak's CyberSitter program.

Blacklists are lists of Web sites that have been flagged as violent or pornographic or malicious or otherwise offensive. Web browsers on computers where blacklists are in use are instructed to block those sites.

The report's authors - researchers in the university's computer science and engineering division - also said they found another clue that Solid Oak's code was stolen: a file that contained a 2004 CyberSitter news bulletin that appeared to have been accidentally included in Green Dam's coding.

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LuckyBrandon
1 / 5 (1) Jun 13, 2009
You can't "own" the blacklist. Even if somebody took the research from scratch on what sites to block, there is a very good chance that most sites listed within another software app would end up in some other software app. After all, a dangerous site is a dangerous site.

The chinese need to give their people true rights though...I will give you they have a lot of things right, BUT, they are not an empirical dynasty based nation anymore, and they need to get over that mindset.
NameIsNotNick
5 / 5 (2) Jun 13, 2009
Not true. Most companies add spurious entries just to catch this kind of piracy.

I'm not sure I agree with you about China either...

You can't "own" the blacklist. Even if somebody took the research from scratch on what sites to block, there is a very good chance that most sites listed within another software app would end up in some other software app. After all, a dangerous site is a dangerous site.



The chinese need to give their people true rights though...I will give you they have a lot of things right, BUT, they are not an empirical dynasty based nation anymore, and they need to get over that mindset.

designmemetic
not rated yet Jun 13, 2009
China should buy the code from cybersitter, or better yet contract them to build the software into the OS so it can't be taken out. It looks like the original developer would be willing to build blocking software for anything and would be happy to add political websites to the blocked list for a reasonable fee.
LuckyBrandon
1 / 5 (1) Jun 13, 2009
if the bs websites were added, and they found that, then ok, I would say they have a case of at least those portions being stolen. But, for instance in my home, I have 5 firewalls, all with a large blacklist on them, and id bet money most if not all of them are on most software used for these purposes.

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