Sunlight Trap Could Lead to New Generation of Solar Devices

Jun 11, 2009 by Lisa Zyga weblog
(Left) The design for trapping sunlight using two elliptical mirrors, with M1 collecting sunlight and M2 (the zozzaroid) focusing sunlight back to the vertex of M1 and into the blackbody. (Right) The mirrors used in a scheme for steam generation. Image credit: De Luca and Fedullo.

In the Greek legend of Dionysius' ear, Dionysius made a cave shaped like an ellipse in order to hear the words whispered by a prisoner in one of the foci of the cave. Some science museums today feature a similar exhibit, where two people at opposite ends of a room can whisper into giant ellipses and distinctly hear each others' words. This sort of cave, called Dionysius' ear, has also inspired the design of a new sunlight trap proposed by physicists Roberto De Luca and Aniello Fedullo, both of the University of Salerno in Italy.

As the scientists explain in a study to be published in the European Journal of Physics, their sunlight trapping system is the optical equivalent of acoustical Dionysius' ear. The design consists of two parabolic mirrors arranged face-to-face. Sunlight first hits the larger mirror and reflects to the smaller mirror placed a short distance away. Then the light from the smaller mirror reflects back, this time being focused into the vertex of the larger mirror. By confining sunlight into this small region, scientists can ideally trap solar radiation. The sunlight is stored in a blackbody, which consists of a cavity with perfectly reflecting inner walls.

"Through a sunlight trap system, solar radiation is first concentrated in a small region of space and then sent into a blackbody, where it can be stored (not for an arbitrary long time, though) for a variety of uses," De Luca told PhysOrg.com. "For example, after having trapped sunlight in a cavity with perfectly reflecting inner walls, what we call a blackbody, one can think of heating water enclosed in a container placed inside the cavity itself. Other uses of this concept are also conceivable."

In their study, De Luca and Fedullo investigated the feasibility of such a perfect sunlight trapping system, which was first envisioned by Paolantonio Zozzaro, a high school physics professor from the Province of Salerno. Zozzaro, who is involved in alternative energy research, wondered what the shape of the smaller mirror should be in order to reflect all incident light rays to the vertex of the larger mirror. Through their calculations, De Luca and Fedullo found that the smaller mirror should have a specific elliptic or hyperbolic profile, similar to Dionysius' ear. They call this secondary mirror a "zozzaroid." They've shown that, theoretically, the design focuses sunlight very effectively, so that it can be transferred to a blackbody with a rather small hole.

The scientists hope that the new sunlight collector could be useful for a variety of alternative energy applications. In a follow-up study, De Luca has investigated the possibility of using the device to generate steam without the need for a convection fluid. In the hollow cavity of the blackbody, he added a metal container into which water is pumped. Through conduction, heat is transferred from the metal container to the water, which is transformed into superheated steam. The steam can then be used for applications such as power generation. In addition to steam generation, such a system might be able to transform sea water into drinking water using only solar energy.

"Let us consider the problem of drinking water on the coasts of hot regions of the globe," De Luca said. "In these places, salt water and sunlight are available in great quantity. Well! It is now not difficult to show that one can use a sunlight trap to heat one side of a metal surface dividing a cylindrical blackbody in two parts. On the other side of the metal surface (which attains a temperature very close to that of the opposite side), one can spray sea water. The generated vapor will then rise in the second chamber of the blackbody and salt will drop down due to gravity. By condensation of the generated vapor, one finally obtains drinkable water."

De Luca and Fedullo predict that constructing a prototype of this system will involve technical challenges due to the highly idealized scheme. However, they hope that a close approximation to the ideal system could lead to many exciting possibilities.

"There can be more applications indeed," De Luca said. "If one can generate overheated steam, one is able to produce electricity, as one does in ordinary thermoelectric power plants. In our case, however, one does not need to burn fossil fuel to generate heat. On the other hand, owing to the periodic availability of , one has to experiment with new types of controlled power generation systems. This new type of technology may be implemented, on a rather large scale, in a region of the world where the local social and economical development is not yet strictly linked to the availability of fossil fuel and where solar radiation is a rather ample resource.

"A group of developed countries can then make an agreement with the country having such characteristics: We shall invest in testing a model of sustainable industrial development based on alternative energies in your [undeveloped] country, using our technologies and our funds. In return, you will inherit the new developed technology (comprising the possibility of having a public transportation system based on hydrogen vehicles) in the near future, solve some occupational problems and, probably, have a better production of drinking water. Most of all, your country will not contribute to the greenhouse effect, being the first example of a fully developed region whose industrial production and human activity do not emit carbon dioxide into the atmosphere."

More information: R De Luca and A Fedullo. "Focusing light rays back to the vertex of a reflecting parabolic collector: the equivalent of Dionysius ear effect in optical systems." European Journal of Physics. (to be published).

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alq131
5 / 5 (3) Jun 11, 2009
so...they re-invented the Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope? I don't understand where the innovation is.
lengould100
5 / 5 (3) Jun 11, 2009
This is the most ridiculous article i've ever seen. 1) adding the second reflector adds nothing to the project except shortening the physical distance from primary to receiver. 2) the discussion of the "reflective black body" cavity is at minimum confusing if not confused about laws of physics. 3) generating steam with solar energy is not exactly a new idea. 4) everything here is so trivial, the whole article must be a joke.
phlipper
5 / 5 (2) Jun 11, 2009
The old saying, "There's nothing new under the Sun", comes to mind. This article is a total waste of everyone's time. If there is news here, the author failed to capture it. If this "science writer" worked for me, she would be kindly told to seek employment elsewhere. To write about science, one needs to know something about it. A degree in physics would help.
gentleman_one
1 / 5 (4) Jun 11, 2009
ONE OF THE AUTHORS - I believe that people should be so humble to try to read carefully before judging negatively someone's work. The novelty is to couple a sort of "Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope" (right!) to a black body. First concentrate and then "trap" light. The concept is indeed simple and even an high-school student would understand the great impact of this new way of conceiving solar devices. For the rest I just hope good science can be recognized by good scientists.
smiffy
5 / 5 (4) Jun 11, 2009
Because these are parabolic mirrors they must be exactly aligned perpendicular to the sun - which of course is a moving target. You'd need sensored motor drives with 2 dimensions of freedom to keep the mirrors facing into the sun and a microprocessor to locate the sun again after it had gone behind a cloudbank.
gentleman_one
1 / 5 (1) Jun 11, 2009
Because these are parabolic mirrors they must be exactly aligned perpendicular to the sun - which of course is a moving target. You'd need sensored motor drives with 2 dimensions of freedom to keep the mirrors facing into the sun and a microprocessor to locate the sun again after it had gone behind a cloudbank.

Exactly so... See the small GSM antenna for solar tracking...
Soylent
4 / 5 (4) Jun 11, 2009
The concept is indeed simple and even an high-school student would understand the great impact of this new way of conceiving solar devices.


Big expensive smith-cassgrain telescopes with dual axis tracking for minute amounts of unreliable heat? Even first graders should be able to do the math and reject the idea as preposterous.
gentleman_one
1 / 5 (4) Jun 11, 2009
Minute amounts of unreliable heat?

Very good... does anyone know that the power delivered by solar radiation on Earth could be, by itself, more than enough to satisfy the energy needs of Mankind? This is just a way to use it more effectively.

I am very much surprised about negative comments. However, I shall repeat: good science should be judged by good scientists.
3432682
1 / 5 (3) Jun 11, 2009
The most interest part of this device is the light storage unit. I'd like to hear more about storing sunlight in a reflective "bottle". How long does the light last? What is the efficiency of such storage? Could it be used for reading? Even a tiny, weak light is enough for youngersters to read.
david_42
4 / 5 (1) Jun 11, 2009
About the only advantage I see in this design vs other parabolic concentrators is placing the heat collector at the base of the system. This simplifies consolidating the output of many collectors. The tracking problem is no different from any other parabolic collector.
magnous
1 / 5 (1) Jun 11, 2009
Complimenti per il tuo lavoro Roberto ...non capisco perchè alcuni commenti sono negativi, forse avrebbero voluto avere loro l'idea???
Ciao.
Vito Carlomagno
winthrom
1 / 5 (2) Jun 11, 2009
The black body part of this unit will take the incident sunlight coming through the small entrance hole and reflect it within its interior walls over and over again. As the energy continues to be reflectd, the intensity increases. If the interior walls are designed to absorb the visible light and re-emit heat radiation, then that is what will build up. Whatever re-emerges from the blackbody collecting a broad number of requencies will emerge at the 4th power of the input, but on one frequency only. (Boltzman stuff).
alq131
5 / 5 (2) Jun 11, 2009
Some of us here are good scientists, good innovators and possibly good writers. This article does little to point out the advantages over other concentration methods. Fresnel lenses are currently used for CPV. Single linear parabolic troughs are used to concentrate on oil-filled collectors and large flat mirrors are used to reflect light to a "black body" tower that heats water or salt.

Adding a second mirror still requires mounting hardware that does little to improve upon the existing parabolic troughs. Moving the blackbody behind the focusing mechanism is the same as fresnel CPV. And finally, the mechanism, tracker and drive motors are all expenses that require maintenance just as many existing approaches.

If the true point of the article was to describe a new blackbody storage device then it should have talked about that. But the technology, as described, appears to have no improvements when looked at on a feature and benefit basis--it is identical to existing solutions. Further more, the argument could be made that requireing two optical surfaces AND the drive mechanism would cost more and be more difficult to manufacture than would a single mirror trough (and single altitude drive) or a FLAT mirror array (and alt-az drive) focusing on a tower.

N_O_M
5 / 5 (2) Jun 11, 2009
Can the black body store a lot of energy? No. Vulvox spam takes advantage of physorg forum and other storage media.
Naf off Farbstain.
thermodynamics
not rated yet Jun 11, 2009
Give me a break. This is absurd. The basis of their "black body" is: "which consists of a cavity with perfectly reflecting inner walls." Did anyone pay attention the term "perfectly?" There is no such thing as a perfect reflector. Because of that there is prompt absorption of the light causing the interior to heat. The interior could be any color and it would not matter. The "black body" will be filled with a well defined curve of wavelengths that is defined by the temperature of the interior, not the reflectivity of the walls. There is no need for a reflective interior because it cannot be "perfect" so the light will be partially absorbed at each contact with the walls - which takes place at the speed of light. So, it would take a very precise measuring device to measure the persistence of the initial light (pico-seconds). What is left is heat. Nothing new here at all.
gentleman_one
not rated yet Jun 11, 2009
Give me a break. This is absurd. The basis of their "black body" is: "which consists of a cavity with perfectly reflecting inner walls."

Please read what has been proposed to prevent unuseful multiple reflections in the paper "Capturing sunlight" (co-author one of the author of the present work) published in The European Journal of Physics in 2006. And please try to be a little more respectful of the honest work done by collegues.
Soylent
3.7 / 5 (3) Jun 11, 2009
Minute amounts of unreliable heat?


Year average of ~250 Wth/m^2 in exceptional areas, 50 Wth/m^2 or so in Sweden, where I live.

With 10-20% efficiency you get 5-50 We/m^2. That's utterly abysmal.

Very good... does anyone know that the power delivered by solar radiation on Earth could be, by itself, more than enough to satisfy the energy needs of Mankind?


Who cares? You're not going to be able to cover even a billionth of the Earths surface with dual-axis tracking, schmidt-cassegrain telescopes, maintain and clean them, build the associated electrical energy storage and transmission. The reason is quite simple; each unit you make is hideously unprofitable, making more of them just gets you increasingly into debt.

What are you going to do? Take a loss on each unit and make it up on volume?

I am very much surprised about negative comments.


Vacuous crap tends to draw out negative comments.
zevkirsh
not rated yet Jun 12, 2009
how about doing this with a photonic storage system , so that the light goes into a 'light bottle' and circles endlessly without loss or absorbtion until it needs to be released at night. that way you store photons at the visible end of the spectrum without needlessly transferring them into heat.
gentleman_one
not rated yet Jun 12, 2009
Vacuous crap tends to draw out negative comments.


R. De Luca, F. Romeo, P. Zozzaro, "Capturing sunlight" Eur. J. Phys. 27 (2006) 1233

There is no better answer to your angry comments than this wonderful work
Birger
not rated yet Jun 12, 2009
Before passing judgement, I would like to see some cost estimates. How many years will it take to get back the investment?
ArtflDgr
3 / 5 (2) Jun 12, 2009
the innovation is in the fact that they are not to bright... so they think that turning a telescope to the sun and concentrating the light to use it is innovation. its what you get in an idocracy not a meritocracy.

hey!!! let me save them LOTS of money....

rather than use a second curved mirror, if they moved the top curved mirror down in focal length, they then could use a mirrored flat instead of an expensive second curved mirror.

and dont tell them.. but more than 10 years ago i figured out that you could take a wire, make a circle. put a mass made CD on it, then take a tube and make cuts on the end to bend it out like a flower. threat it. then use that in the center to make the cd have a curve (you can also put them on a metal bowl and heat them in the oven till they are soft and curve).

with that, you only need now to take another CD, and put it in the right space of the focal length.

however, even better is to make a large array of throwaway cds, and have that track the sun to a cast iron radiator painted black. put the radiator in a glass case, and voila, junkyard solar power of a pretty hige degree. all thats needed is to eather use steam power, or run it to peltier.

the point is that the guys that go do this are not good engineers, and not that conversant. if they were they wouldnt go and do this!!!!

they would realize that the costs of production in what they are desinging are so high that its not worth doing. as a personal hobby project that pans out by putting junk together, its GREAT!! because thats how some choose to spend their time, and time is needed to collect and put the junk together.

but if they cant see that they are just making a telescope, and cant see that there are better designs that make it easier to make by using flats, then their proposals are too expensive.

i ahve lots of workable designs that are NOT too expensive. but in a sea of cranks like this, i cant be noticed.

what they ahve is the right connections to do something and have some capital, that is waht i dont have.

funny thing is that there ARE designs that one can make that are relatively cheap that would funnel light and would not need any equipment to track!!!

i have lots of designs for energy. they are a chew block for good engineers. but as you can see almost no one takes them to market as they are not competitive.

I also have lots of other designs in other areas that ARE more competitive and solve specific market problems. but my baliwick is the tech, not the business gritty areas (though i do know business. but dealing is gritty, and dealing is not what i do).

ah well..

if there was some cash in it, i would take the time to put up some of the more economical ideas for people to do.

most of them confuse do it yourself projects with innovating. thats sad.

but at least they are not doing other things.

Soylent
1 / 5 (1) Jun 13, 2009
R. De Luca, F. Romeo, P. Zozzaro, "Capturing sunlight" Eur. J. Phys. 27 (2006) 1233


The reason you want to concentrate sunlight is to produce high-grade heat, so you can perform physical work with at least a modicum of efficiency.

This abomination uses not only two curved mirrors and dual axis-tracking for the collector, but a cavity composed of a spherical mirror(two half spheres bolted toghether probably) with a spherical black-body inside to produce low-grade heat that's useless for anything but residential heating.

Simple flat-panel or evacuated tube collectors beats the snot out of this system. No tracking, simple parts, light weight, can be installed on almost any roof without having your neighbours complain.

There is no better answer to your angry comments than this wonderful work


I suspected as much.

Since your response was pathetic and there is no better response by your own admission, it follows that this idea is an unworkable piece of crap.

Q.E.D.
goldengod
3 / 5 (2) Jun 14, 2009
Looks like an interesting option that has potential for very high efficiency. Something that a lot of the commentators conveniently ignore around here.

The possible uses proposed in the article for salt water heating and steam generation are intriguing and worthwhile subjects for intense study and funding.

However, the difficulty of achieving the internal structure of the black body seems to make this project very complex.

I'm not sure why the author felt the need to promote alternative energy politics for the third world. It seems to go without saying and only infuriates and increases the level of invective in the comments here.

alq131
not rated yet Jun 15, 2009
It's not that there isn't "potential" for high efficiency, it's that the design is overkill for such a simple application. Additionally, the paper relies on claims of "perfectly reflecting" surfaces. If such a thing existed, you could set a nuclear bomb off inside of it, and all of the EM energy would be contained. you could then walk around with a "nuclear battery"...now that WOULD be interesting...

But a complex arrangement of mirrors (when one flat one would work) AND a SATELLITE ANTENNA (OMG) to track the sun!?!?! when a simple photodiode arrangement would work.

I like the idea of an array of old CD's! now THAT's workable and innovative.

The point is that whoever wrote this paper probably is a grad student trying to make their mark. Hopefully their advisers would point out the "Rube Goldberg"-esque quality of this design.

goldengod
1 / 5 (1) Jun 15, 2009
I thought the point was that the tiny hole in the black body would make it easier to stop the light from escaping.

The article makes the claim of perfectly reflecting surfaces. It also says that all the energy will not be permanently contained. Badly written article. Paper still has promise.

How does a flat mirror funnel the light into the small hole more effectively than the proposed design?

A solar array would provide enough power for the tracking system to run permanently.

I agree that the article was badly presented with unnecessary details included and more important details missed.

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