Japan races to build a zero-emission car

Jan 05, 2009
Mitsubishi Motors' electric vehicle
Zero-emission vehicles may not be a novel concept for long. Japanese carmakers are racing to develop electric cars

As mass-produced electric cars come closer to reality, their makers are trying to polish the image of what experts say could be a hard sell in the current recession.



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CreepyD
2.3 / 5 (3) Jan 05, 2009
With a 14 hour charge, the mileage has be at least 500 miles before I'd even consider buying one.
lengould100
1.8 / 5 (5) Jan 05, 2009
A very confused article. The future of the auto is plug-in series hybrid electric with small onboard diesel generators to extend range beyond the typical commute. Hydrogen will go no-where without massive government subsidies for refueling stations and a 10x at least reduction in platinum catalyst requirements in the cell membrane. And exactly why should governments subsidize fuel cell vehicles more than plug-hybrid vehicles? (reference claims with credible documents please).
joefarah
4 / 5 (8) Jan 05, 2009
The future is NOT hybrid - the costs and maintenance are too high. An all-electric vehicle has no fuel injection, no radiator, no engine, no alternator, no generator, no air filter, no spark plugs, etc. It can carry significantly more battery weight. Consider, for example, the Phoenix Motorcars ZEV, which is a SUT (T for Truck) which can carry 5 passengers and a full load and still get 150 miles per charge. The Altairnano Technology batteries are by far the safest, perhaps even safer than a traditional gas tank. With proper infrastructure, they can be recharged in 10 minutes to full charge. They are quiet and pollution is limited to that to produce the electricity - whether coal or wind farms. And it's not how many battery packs for the life of the car, it's how many cars for the life of the battery packs which is measured in decades (typically 2 to 3 decades with very little degradation). The biggest 2 problems are: cost, which will hopefully be addressed by mass production, and jobs - as there are so many fewer parts, it will cost the auto industry a significant number of jobs. However, for some reason, Altairnano has not yet licensed its battery technology to the larger auto makers. Why????
lengould100
4 / 5 (2) Jan 05, 2009
Agreed joefarah that IF battery-only can satisfy customer on range, then is preferred. Point is, future is NOT H2 fuel cells.
raron
5 / 5 (2) Jan 05, 2009
"Mitsubishi's electric car now runs 160 kilometres (100 miles) on one charge"

Well, in 1990, GM (or rather AeroVironment) made a prototype called "The Impact", of which the later EV1 from GM was based (1996). I don't exactly recall the numbers for "The Impact", but the numbers for EV1 seems to be the same: 160 miles (260 km) range, with a top speed of 80 mph / 130 kmh (electronically limited).
http://en.wikiped...tors_EV1

Not to dismiss Mitsubishi at all, its about time to get electric cars mainstream. But how is it that 1990's electric cars have the same (better even) specs?
LuckyBrandon
4 / 5 (2) Jan 05, 2009
sounds ot mel ike the honda model is the only way to go
morpheus2012
1 / 5 (9) Jan 05, 2009
for the dummies here

feds had anitgravity technology since the 3oths
captured after the war from hitler

yeah the in the 30ths

and 80 years later they try to make some batery car?

if u impressed by this in any shape or form

jsut show how a retard clueless dumb sheep u are

and im sure u are i can feell it:)

yeah you reading this
atlas5
4 / 5 (1) Jan 05, 2009
I am a researcher investigating the development of Solar Hydrogen Photo-electrochemical refuelling infrastructure. My question concerns the figure quoted for the Honda FCX Clarity fuel cell vehicle's range? This will affect the network distribution of filling stations, and I am interested in the correct figure for my own research.

As this vehicle is not the same as an electric plug in variety, I question the distance quoted between refilling the hydrogen storage tank. Perhaps the writer of the article is confusing a different plug in vehicle with the fuel cell FCX Clarity?

On similar developments in low emission transport, the BMW Hydrogen 7 combustion engined vehicle is quoted as having the capacity for 8kg of liquid hydrogen stored at -253 deg C ~ 170 litres of a gasoline alternative, joining a standard capacity tank for dual fuel motoring. This is a different type of car due to it's combustion engine, but offers another alternative to an electric option, and the driver a choice to switch between the two. This was an official vehicle at the recent UN Climate Change Conference in Poznan last year.

With respect to the development of Hydrogen refuelling infrastructure around the world, contrary to some comments here the industry is growing rapidly, due to the implementation of an extensive list of ISO standards concerning the development of the various components mid last year. Have a look at http://www.h2stations.org and you may see where these stations are being built around the world.
albert
3 / 5 (1) Jan 05, 2009
Whatever happened to this recent development in emission-less driving? http://uk.reuters...Id=84561
rab96
4.5 / 5 (2) Jan 06, 2009
It's only a question of time that the petrol economy will crash. We better have an alternative then, so keep up the good research. Lets hope that the economic monopoly will not stand in the way too much. If the car industry would have developed as fast as the computer industry, we would have flying cars now.
Nartoon
3 / 5 (2) Jan 06, 2009
Whatever became of the new breed of diesel cars that were going to have almost zero emissions, no soot and run on anything from used fryer oil, to bunker oil to jet fuel?
Lord_jag
5 / 5 (1) Jan 16, 2009
"Not to dismiss Mitsubishi at all, its about time to get electric cars mainstream. But how is it that 1990's electric cars have the same (better even) specs?"

Because the manufacturers aren't trying to make a half decent electric car.... they are trying to prove electric cars are hard to make, slow and troublesome so that you'll forget about buying them and go get a good gas guzzler.