In Germany, spate of deaths fuels row on assisted suicide
Frieda Felger was 97 when she committed suicide, one of a growing number of elderly Germans choosing to end their own lives, but one whose case now fuels a debate over whether they should be helped with their decision to die.
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If you support forcing others to live against their own will I seriously hope you will be dying for years in agony so that you can experience first hand how pathetic and shortsighted your position is.
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It is unbelievable that "responsible" adults can advocate forcing someone to be subject to gradual-murder by a condition like Huntingtons, while claiming "morality".
( note: whether some experience is "murder"-nature or not, is primarily up to the individual who is subject to it, /not primarily/ up to others.
Secondarily, it's up to others.
E.g. if A kills B, and B didn't want to be destroyed, then from B's side it's murder, no matter what A felt about it.
if B was being tortured to death, whether by a "major illness" or by some monster or mental-defective, and was begging to be given release from that gradual-murder, then A killing B might /not/, from B's perspective, be murder, though A might /feel/ it to have been murder, or not, depending on their inner constitution.
What's comically dishonest about the "morality" argument?
Ask those who've *lived in*
Huntington's,
Progressive Multiple Sclerosis,
schizophrenia,
a red-back bite ( if the stories I've heard about the consequences of that arachnid's bite are true -- that it causes one's body to progressively destroy itself, imprisoning the person in agony, while their limbs are amputated to keep 'em alive... ), etc, and you'll get an answer that is:
"suicide, controlling one's OWN life & death, is a RIGHT".
Ask, however, those who have NO EQUIVALENT EXPERIENCE, whether those who are IN that experience have the right, and you'll get:
"well, I don't experience that, but *they* don't have the right to die to escape their condition!"
In other words, it's like /men/ deciding that /women/ "are not persons", as our western law insisted, for ages, without experiencing being woman.
Let the ones caught in the experience, decide.
And have the balls to accept their self-determination.
Cheers.
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