Warning system could protect Europe's giant atom-smasher

December 5, 2008

Large Hadron Collider (LHC)

Europe's giant atom-smasher, which broke down only days after being switched on with great fanfare, may restart in July or August with a new warning system to try to prevent future mishaps, its operators said Friday.



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physpuppy
Dec 05, 2008

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Now I wish they would have provided some sort of hint how they will be measuring the temperature.

Anything that you do with liquid helium can be quite tricky - the very act of measurement adds some heat to the system. Maybe they found an indirect method using processes that are already being measured?

Noumenon
Dec 05, 2008

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Thats alot of down time,... thats all i have to say.
MRD
Dec 05, 2008

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It appears that minuscule fluctuations in the temperature of the helium may have provided a signal. If that is determined to be the case, computer software can be designed to detect such changes in the future and shut down the machine before it is damaged, Gillies said.

http://ori.msnbc....7242470/

google lhc cryogenic thermometry for more on how they track the temperature.

Any reason why they aren't using a HTC?
earls
Dec 05, 2008

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WARNING: BLACK HOLE DETEC... zzzziiiiiiiiiiooooop!
KBK
Dec 06, 2008

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Measurement is used as potential substitute where the given intellect does not suffice. Perhaps they could have used a greater dose of intellect and reason instead of 20 years and a machine with failure modes.

Wasted. Money.

The reality is, that the deeper and further one looks in the Macro and the Nano, the greater the requirement of internal and external reflection in the given psychology-in order to make sense of the given issue. Psychology 101.

But that isn't on the science curriculum. And that is a sad thing. They could find out what they wanted to know without the wasted time and energy if they had what it takes to delve into themselves, instead.

If you really don't understand what I just wrote, then there is a near 100% chance that you are not ready to deal with what the LHC is supposedly attempting to do.

On many another article that is here in physorg.com, it is plainly shown or directly indicating that reality is virtual, and we are all either aware or unaware participants in that continual act of the 'roiling creation' of existence itself. This, at least with respects to this particular dimensional energy sum-vector, we like to call 3-d reality.

The odd thing about it, is even with multiple degrees in science, physics, whatever, the given person also must expand the rest of the system, in this case, the psychology,and the understanding of existence, otherwise they cannot understand or accept what it is that they are attempting to look at. Reality does not unfold in directions you already know or expect it to be.

This is the very nature of a powerful unknown.

When the unknowns are big enough in scope, they don't require simple changes in mathematical constructs, they require a near complete reformation of the individual in order to understand.

Thus, the foolishness of the LHC, as the answers they seek have been written about for thousands of years---and have been known for far longer.
theophys
Dec 08, 2008

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They could find out what they wanted to know without the wasted time and energy if they had what it takes to delve into themselves, instead.



Thus, the foolishness of the LHC, as the answers they seek have been written about for thousands of years---and have been known for far longer.


What a load of ballux. The whole point of the LHC is to find physical evidence to confirm existing theories and potentialy discover some previously unknown aspect of the universe. You can "delve into yourself" all you want, but any revelation you have needs physical evidense to be applicable to real world problems and issues.
speedmac
Dec 09, 2008

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yes it cacreat mini black holes that fast decays a second.There are subatomic particles which at speeds almost the speed of light about 99% the speed. Which would collide. make a new subatomic particle. Which would answer the deepest qustions like what happen big bang, what happens at the center of a black hole, the list goes on. the biggest is the second after the big bang. and no its not goig be a doomsday device . cause the engery wouldnt light a light bulb lol. thoerys yes to prove string thoery and geral reativy on what happends at the center of a black hole. parrel worlds with the 4 forces 1.gravity 2. the weak force 3.the srong foce 4.electromagnetism. this machine is the greatest baddest and biggest machine on this planet earth.
theophys
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