Rocket-powered car steers towards world speed record

December 9, 2015 by Cristy Burne, Sciencenetwork Wa
Rocket-powered car steers towards world speed record
A render of rocket-powered title contender Aussie Invader 5R.

Local speedsters are keen to prove it's possible to become the best—and fastest—in the world with determination, skill, and a whole lot of science.

The Perth-based Aussie Invader team, headed by driver and Australian holder Rosco McGlashan, aim to set a new world land speed record in their rocket-powered car, hoping to reach speeds of 1610km per hour, or faster than the speed at which a bullet leaves a handgun.

"Most of what we are trying to achieve has never been done before," Aussie Invader team member Mark Read says.

"Every part of the car is custom made, you just cannot buy these parts off the shelf.

For example, the wheels are machined from solid blocks of aerospace-grade aluminium, each wheel weighs 140kg, and at 1610km/h (1000 mph), they will spin at 10,000 repetitions per minute.

"This will mean there will be 50,000 g exerted on the rim… so if you placed a 1kg weight on the rim at those speeds, it would weigh 50 tonnes…the wheels just want to pull themselves apart," he says.

The team are putting their car together in a Mullaloo shed, relying on help from experts in aerodynamics, engineering, rocket propulsion and manufacture to construct the vehicle for around $4 million.

The local car's price tag compares favourably with the hundred million dollars spent so far by their British opposition.

"Our car is simple in design, using just one pressure-fed rocket, with few moving parts," Mr Read says.

Rocket-powered car steers towards world speed record
A render of the rocket-powered title contender Aussie Invader 5R.

"A lot of our car's parts are designed with the use of CAD [computer-aided design] and tested using CFD [computational fluid dynamics]…the beauty of this is that parts can be created by large milling machines, with very little human error."

Reaching 1000mph is the one big barrier left in motor racing, Mr Read says.

"If we were to break the world land , Australia would hold both the land and water world speed records, which would be a fantastic achievement for this country, and show us as a leading country in engineering and technology.

He is also inspired by the opportunity to excite the next generation of Aussie innovators.

"This world faces some massive problems, and to help overcome them we need very clever kids to study science, technology, engineering and maths," he says.

"If we can interest kids of today to look at these career paths, we will be achieving a lot."

Explore further: Australian race crew in faster-than-a-bullet bid (Update)

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KelDude
3 / 5 (4) Dec 09, 2015
This story about the "Bloodhound" rocket car has been in the news for years as if its some kind of super achievement. What? What a waste of time and money. Never ending stories about different facets of the thing, all boring, all leaving me with the feeling "who cares?". From where I'm sitting, no one cares!
Lex Talonis
3 / 5 (2) Dec 09, 2015
This is nothing at all really.

I mean Jesus is the first man to go into low earth orbit in an imaginary space ship.

He beat them by 2000 years.
dan42day
1 / 5 (1) Dec 09, 2015
Good luck mates, and LOOK OUT FOR THAT DINGO!!!
Colbourne
not rated yet Dec 10, 2015
KelDude. This is not the British Bloodhound but a low budget Australian car called the Aussie Invader .

I wish it luck and hopefully it will set a record for the Bloodhound to attempt to beat.
antialias_physorg
5 / 5 (4) Dec 10, 2015
10k rpm? That's four times faster than your average buzzsaw. I hope those wheels are properly balanced. The forces from even a minute imbalance would be quite severe.
antigoracle
4.4 / 5 (7) Dec 10, 2015
the wheels are machined from solid blocks of aerospace-grade aluminium

Forget the wheels, what did they machine the driver's balls out of?
gkam
1.7 / 5 (12) Dec 10, 2015
If the wheels do not drive it, it is not a car, it is fireworks onwheels. I think Mickey Thompson still should hold that world record.
Uncle Ira
3.5 / 5 (8) Dec 10, 2015
If the wheels do not drive it, it is not a car,


Well that is as goofy as most of your postums. Is that a old rule? Or one you just made up? Maybe he is the rule you "read about somewhere" that some other couyon made up and you thought you'd grab him for your own.
qitana
4.2 / 5 (5) Dec 10, 2015
To me, a wheel-driven car has more charm.
The rocket cars are more like.. well... rockets.
There is still an active competition for the fastest wheel-driven car.
The speed demon streamliner holds the record now, 439mph for the mile.

https://en.wikipe...d_record
Captain Stumpy
3.5 / 5 (8) Dec 10, 2015
If the wheels do not drive it, it is not a car, it is fireworks onwheels
it doesn't fly, swim or float, and it has tires that actually affect direction and more...

which leads to what constitutes a "car"

so lets define a car:
A car is a wheeled, self-powered motor vehicle used for transportation. Most definitions of the term specify that cars are designed to run primarily on roads, to have seating for one to eight people, to typically have four wheels, and to be constructed principally for the transport of people rather than goods
https://en.wikipe...wiki/Car

therefore, it is a car (or automobile) in every sense of the word
gkam
1.7 / 5 (11) Dec 10, 2015
We are talking about speed vehicles. I contend only those which are driven by the wheels are real cars in the contest for speed, the others are just wheeled sleds.

You can classify them any way you want. I think Mickey Thompson did much more than some person riding in a wheeled jet or rocket.
Uncle Ira
3.5 / 5 (8) Dec 10, 2015
We are talking about speed vehicles.


Slow on the uptake Cher? What does that mean?

I contend only those which are driven by the wheels are real cars in the contest for speed,


Well Skippy. I contend that you are a really bad source when it comes to what words mean to normal peoples.

the others are just wheeled sleds.


There ain't no such thing as a wheeled sled. That would be a cart or wagon. A sled by definition don't have any wheels. A normal person would not be making postums on a science place while under the influence of marijuana when he is pretending to be the engineer.
gkam
1.4 / 5 (10) Dec 10, 2015
Ira, if we are talking about mud boats, you may have an intelligent opinion, but not in any other context.

In my opinion, the speed records for driven-wheeled vehicles is different than for folk taking a ride in a rocket, just keeping it pointed. You have my permission to think any way you like.
Uncle Ira
3.5 / 5 (8) Dec 10, 2015
Ira, if we are talking about mud boats, you may have an intelligent opinion, but not in any other context.


Cher, psst, this is me whispering to you. You got "cars" completely wrong. You got "sleds" completely wrong. So you want to triple down on the stupid and want make mud boats part of the mix? Skippy for an idiot, you sure are good at being the idiot.

In my opinion, the speed records for driven-wheeled vehicles is different than for folk taking a ride in a rocket, just keeping it pointed.


Well why you didn't say that instead of making silly (wrong) definitions for what is not a car?

You have my permission to think any way you like.


And I thank you for that Cher. Trying to think like you don't is just more than I can do.
Captain Stumpy
3.7 / 5 (6) Dec 10, 2015
@g
We are talking about speed vehicles
HOLY SH*T-FIRE AND TARNATION! i didn't know that! maybe i should have read the article AND your post first? [sarcastic hyperbole]
I contend
1- it is not about what you contend, it is about what can be proven and what is reality which is NOT subjective

2- you can contend that you are the antichrist for all the world cares, it still doesn't change the definition of a car
nor does it change the fact that the above is a "wheeled, self-powered motor vehicle used for transportation, seating for one to eight people, has four wheels, and constructed principally for the transport of people rather than goods"
You can classify them any way you want
NO, i cant! because i then couldn't PROVE that it was anything that i classify it as except to reference a personal delusion or subjective belief... which is NOT SCIENCE

that is philosophy... if you want to talk philo, go move in with nou
gkam
1.7 / 5 (11) Dec 11, 2015
We are not talking science here, we are talking rules for speed records. It is not appropriate to put simple rocket-powered vehicles in the same class as those which actually drive their wheels. Is it a car? Can you drive it on the road? Not without killing everyone else.

It is just a wheeled rocket.

If you want to talk personalities, cuddle up with Ira.
Captain Stumpy
4.3 / 5 (6) Dec 11, 2015
@g
Is it a car?
we've already been through this... before you arbitrarily redefine a word (like JVK does) and start posting your belief about something, you should do at least a little research on it, eh?

antigoracle
2.6 / 5 (5) Dec 11, 2015
steers towards world speed record

Does the bloody thing even have steering?
Captain Stumpy
3.7 / 5 (6) Dec 11, 2015
steers towards world speed record

Does the bloody thing even have steering?
@AntiG
damn good question, i say!
from what i can see... it doesn't say
http://www.aussie...the-car/

i've posed a question to the site, but i doubt there is much play in the front wheels. at the speeds attained, turning even slightly would be folly, IMHO

so when it says they "turn the vehicle around" i am sure they don't steer it ... but i don't know for sure, so i asked.

Captain Stumpy
3.7 / 5 (6) Dec 12, 2015
Does the bloody thing even have steering?
@AntiG and anyone else interested
reply from the Aussie Invader team
Hi thanks for writing. Aussie Invader 5R does have steering, about about 1.5 degrees. We believe once you go through the sound barrier the steering will be almost useless and have no affect.

The only way to steer the car as it exceeds the speed of sound is aerodynamically. However the rules state you can't have wings that move whilst the car is in motion. So we might have to gimble the rocket engine to move the backend slightly, only testing will tell.

Hope that helps.

Regards Mark
i was right and wrong.
That is really cool. i didn't figure there would be much WRT steering (if they had any)...
Noumenon
3.3 / 5 (7) Dec 12, 2015
i was right and wrong

Much like people who quote the bible.

You can classify them any way you want
NO, i cant! because i then couldn't PROVE that it was anything that i classify it as except to reference a personal delusion or subjective belief... which is NOT SCIENCE.... that is philosophy...


There are various defined classifications for vehicle land speed records. Those classifications are not "subjective belief" nor are they "SCIENCE" nor are they "philosophy". Were you "right and wrong" in that idiotic post?

Noumenon
3.3 / 5 (7) Dec 12, 2015
... do you even consider the context anymore before posting your incessant incantation of "subjective OPINION and not SCIENCE it's philosophy" vacuous drivel? You seem to post the least science, opinion, or philosophy, here, actually hardly any substance at all.

When I read gkam's posts, I thought he was just relaying his preference for wheel driven speed records. So what? Yet, you, CS, have to turn every thread into a combative jerry-springer episode,... and think that's better, how?

Captain Stumpy
3.7 / 5 (6) Dec 12, 2015
Much like people who quote the bible
@nou
no, a bible quote is a philosophy thing - there is no science in it as it is entirely subjective to the individual
PERIOD

i was correct in that you aren't gonna steer that thing when speeds increase to a certain point, and that having only 1.5 degree's, it isn't much of a steering anyway

i was wrong in that it CAN steer up to 1.5 degrees and thus has some steering, whereas i speculated
so when it says they "turn the vehicle around" i am sure they don't steer it
this is the difference between you and i, nou

i can admit when i am wrong and find answers or seek non-subjective evicene

you ASSume you know answers and postulate with opinion and subjective interpretations (IOW-philo double-speak)
this is your personal Dunning-Kruger and why you continually fail

it is also why you REQUIRE a sock puppet
gkam
1 / 5 (7) Dec 12, 2015
I apologize for bringing it up.
Noumenon
3.3 / 5 (7) Dec 12, 2015
i can admit when i am wrong and find answers or seek non-subjective

You just characterized gkams post as "subjective belief... which is NOT SCIENCE.... that is philosophy...",... as if it SHOULD have been science or even made sense to be,... and as if it had anything to do with philosophy, but yet failed to admit that delusional error.

it is also why you REQUIRE a sock puppet

You are uprated literally no matter what idiotic drivel you post and no matter how misplaced and ad nausium repetitive your "not science, evidence, subjective opinion" incantation is. Of course I counter ratings from such trolls.

You invoked my screen name, so I assumed you wanted my attention.

I apologize for bringing it up.

Why? CaptainStumpy and her boyfriend veitvet are not qualified to be thought-police. Just a couple of circle-jerk raters and google-jockeys

Captain Stumpy
3.9 / 5 (7) Dec 12, 2015
You are uprated
except by you and your sock puppet, cadre and followers... which downrate regardless of content
Of course I counter
i find this to be the most telling indicator of not only your Dunning-Kruger, but your personal sociopathic egotistical narcissism

your belief is: if you state it, it MUST be true, or at least relevant

when challenged your brittle ego takes a hit ( https://www.psych...ttle-ego )

you can't actually argue from evidence b/c your philo perspective is too ingrained (you consider it of utmost importance), so you REQUIRE a sock army and constant insurance from yourself
(Erscheinung) and the sock up-raters

THIS is why i keep using the "ad nausium repetitive "not science, evidence, subjective opinion" incantation" (in your words)

you would think an intelligent person could learn- i sure hoped more from you
I guess i was wrong about your intelligence
Captain Stumpy
3.9 / 5 (7) Dec 12, 2015
You invoked my screen name, so I assumed you wanted my attention
ROTFLMFAO

the height of conceit!
that is the most hilarious thing i've read today!
thanks for that!
perhaps you should re-read it?
that is philosophy... if you want to talk philo, go move in with nou
i suppose the Wiki page is all about you too, right?
https://en.wikipe...Noumenon

funny... i don't see it stating you post on PO on the wiki page
i also don't see where it states a "noumenon" is a person here in the disambiguation
https://en.wikipe...Noumenon_%28disambiguation%29

i see an unknown beast, bands, sculpture, dance and poetry... but no YOU

surely you must write yourself in!

i don't know how you live with yourself knowing the wiki page doesn't reference you
Captain Stumpy
3.4 / 5 (5) Dec 12, 2015
one last thing, nou
you said
You are uprated literally no matter what idiotic drivel you post
if i can prove you wrong, what can i get from you?

i prefer large amounts of money, but i am open to suggestions

feel free to post here or to contact me at sciforums
Lex Talonis
not rated yet Dec 13, 2015
A "car" is short for "carriage", and the only thing that differentiates it from an aircraft, is that it's wheels remain on the ground, when being pushed along.

And the only thing that differentiates it from becoming a bomb, is that it's wheels remain above ground, when it is being pushed along.

I use the word bomb, as comparing it to a plough, removes the aspect that rockets explode and sent a huge shower of shit in all directions, and create huge craters, when they bury themselves into the ground at 1000 MPH.

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