Slowdown in global warming only temporary, new study finds

Aug 28, 2013 by Richard Ingham
A pelican flies over the Pacific Ocean at the Uramba Bahia Malaga natural park in Colombia, on July 16, 2013. A slowing in global warming that climate sceptics say undermines the greenhouse theory is simply a "hiatus" from higher temperatures, scientists said on Wednesday.

A slowing in global warming that climate sceptics say undermines the greenhouse theory is simply a "hiatus" from higher temperatures, scientists said on Wednesday.

Grasping one of the thorniest issues in climate politics, the researchers said the recent slowdown lies in a natural but temporary cooling in the tropical Pacific Ocean.

"The current hiatus is part of natural climate variability," they said.

Similar events may occur again, but when assessed on a timescale of decades, "(the) is very likely to continue with greenhouse-gas increase," they said.

The question touches on an anomaly in .

Contrary to earlier predictions, warming of Earth's surface in recent years has not occurred in lock-step with rising levels of heat-trapping gas in the atmosphere.

Over the last 50 years, temperatures have risen by an average of 0.12 degrees Celsius (0.21 degrees Fahrenheit) per decade.

But over the last 15 years, the increase has slowed to a rate of 0.05 C (0.09 F) per decade, even though fossil-fuel continue to break new records.

Skeptics have seized on the discrepancy as proof that if warming exists, it is not man-made but has natural causes such as fluctuations in .

The new study, published in the journal Nature, uses a climate model—and not observed data, which is generally considered stronger—to say the riddle is explained by .

Yu Kosaka and Shang-Ping Xie of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in California factored the heat into a model of the central and eastern tropical Pacific, a region covering about eight percent of the world's surface.

The cooling matches an unusually long, but natural, trend that is similar to La Nina, they said.

Under El Nino, a buildup of exceptionally warm water moves across from the west to the eastern Pacific. Under La Nina, things go into reverse, and the ocean in the eastern Pacific becomes cooler than normal. In both cases, extreme droughts or rainfall can result.

The ocean plays a huge role in the complex affair of . It absorbs carbon dioxide (CO2) and heat at the surface and then shifts these around by tides and currents.

Previous investigations into the so-called climate "halt" have explored the idea that the missing heat is being taken up by the deep sea.

The new research, though, suggests otherwise, said Richard Allan, a meteorologist at Britain's University Reading, in an invited comment.

It highlights the importance of turnover in the vast body that is the Pacific, but at relatively shallow depth, "particularly the upper few hundred metres rather than the deep ocean below 1,000 metres (3,250 feet)," he said.

In a separate study, also published in Nature, Durham University scientists in northeastern England said parts of the East Antarctic icesheet—the largest in the world—could be more vulnerable to climate change than thought.

Geographers using declassified spy satellite imagery measured 175 "outlet" glaciers that disgorge ice on the coastline of Antarctica.

Their snapshot covered 5,400 kilometres (3,375 miles) of coastline from 1963 to 2012.

What surprised them was the glaciers' very fast response to periods of warming or cooling—they rapidly retreated or accelerated in consequence, said lead investigator Chris Stokes.

"If the is going to warm in the future, our study shows that large parts of the margins of the East Antarctic ice sheet are vulnerable to the kinds of changes that are worrying us in Greenland and West—acceleration, thinning and retreat," he said in a press release.

"When temperatures warm in the air or ocean, glaciers respond by retreating and this can have knock-on effects further inland, where more and more ice is drawn down to the coast."

Since 1750, the start of industrialisation, levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) have risen by 40 percent. Concentrations rose from 278 parts per million to 390.5ppm in 2011.

Earlier this year, a monitoring station in Hawaii briefly detected CO2 levels higher than 400ppm.

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More information: Nature paper dx.doi.org/10.1038/nature12534

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cantdrive85
1.9 / 5 (29) Aug 28, 2013
Grasping one of the thorniest issues in climate politics,

Politics? Freudian slip?

The new study, published in the journal Nature, uses a climate model—and not observed data, which is generally considered stronger—to say the riddle is explained by ocean circulation.

Ahh yes, general relativist "thought experiments" are finding their way into many aspects of modern "science".
freethinking
1.8 / 5 (33) Aug 28, 2013
An interesting thing about the AGW Believers is that for many years they have be denying that there has been no increase in Global Temperatures.

So AGW believers now believe, after being denyalists for so many years, that Global Warming hasn't been happening for 15+ years now.
Claudius
2.3 / 5 (27) Aug 28, 2013
new study finds


Should have read: "New model finds"
Sean_W
1.9 / 5 (27) Aug 28, 2013
An interesting thing about the AGW Believers is that for many years they have be denying that there has been no increase in Global Temperatures.

So AGW believers now believe, after being denyalists for so many years, that Global Warming hasn't been happening for 15+ years now.


Only in certain venues. They still reserve the right to call people deniers for believing in the hiatus when speaking to audiences who don't know about the hiatus.
runrig
4 / 5 (21) Aug 28, 2013
An interesting thing about the AGW Believers is that for many years they have be denying that there has been no increase in Global Temperatures.

So AGW believers now believe, after being denyalists for so many years, that Global Warming hasn't been happening for 15+ years now.

From above...
"But over the last 15 years, the increase has slowed to a rate of 0.05 C (0.09 F) per decade, even though fossil-fuel carbon emissions continue to break new records."

That is NOT "hasn't been happening".
Also 15 years is half of what is required to eliminate the ENSO/PDO cycle from skewing the curve away from the trend.
NikFromNYC
2.4 / 5 (32) Aug 28, 2013
New climate study finds that the future is different than the future that is now which is the future that the future will show was not actually different than the future Climatology predicted it to be, in the past.

Quote from Tallbloke's Talkshop blog:
"If the negative phases of natural variations are sufficiently geo-effective in the 21st century to cancel the alleged effect of extra airborne co2 on surface temperature, how much did their positive phases contribute to the warming of the late 20th century?"
MandoZink
3.8 / 5 (20) Aug 28, 2013
These pauses have been part of the trend:

http://www.skepti..._500.gif
NikFromNYC
1.9 / 5 (31) Aug 28, 2013
MandoZink's graph is from a smear site run by a repeat scientific fraud in partnership with a guy who works at Tetra Tech, a green energy design firm that receives $300M government grants. John Cook of SkepticalScience.com is now a true Climatologist in that he is vigorously *witholding* data from his "confirmation" of the formerly claimed 97% consensus and environmentalist and economist Bjorn Lomborg is now on the case:
http://postimg.or...czgmxgb/

Bjorn's Facebook: https://www.faceb...nlomborg

MandoZink's graph must be contrasted with how *everybody* sees small 'g' global warming if they stop CUTTING DATA OFF AT THE CHERRY PICKED LOW POINT OF 1970 and stop plotting things dishonestly:

Simple Plot: http://oi56.tinyp...h021.jpg
Old/New Comparison: http://s22.postim...te_B.gif
Bias/Sincerity Test: http://s10.postim...logy.gif

The lull falsifies climate models, however, so we point it out!

NikFromNYC
2.1 / 5 (30) Aug 28, 2013
MandoZink's profile: "Affiliation: Some local prison for 180 days after June 26. At least the pre-sentence investigator was pleasantly surprised that I wasn't really a criminal. I did offer to mentor other inmates in a few technical subjects in which I have a fairly solid grasp. I would really prefer to be given home-incarceration instead, which would allow me computer access, mandolin access, and access to a decent meal and my wife..., and my 6 lap cats."

And: " ...there won't be any comments from me during the second half of 2012. In jail I will have no computer, no musical instruments and no contact with my 6 cats. My wife will probably visit me. I would have been able to avoid this prison stint had the narcotics officers not lied repeatedly in court about their actions."

Claiming persecution due to skepticism about police radar but no sympathy for climate skeptics?

Bryce Brown who invented radar guns also invented the detectors, to multiply his profits?

Everywhere a scam scam!
NikFromNYC
2 / 5 (29) Aug 28, 2013
MandoZink's citation of John Cook must be tempered by Cook's background:

"John Cook is now desperately trying to cover up his background that he was employed as a cartoonist for over a decade with no prior employment history in academia or climate science."

http://www.popula...nce.html

-=NikFromNYC=-, Ph.D. in carbon chemistry (Columbia/Harvard). My old lab mate who thanked me in his own thesis dedication served as Dept. of Chemistry chairman at Columbia, up the street. There was a future president of the Am. Chem. Soc. (Breslow) and a future chemistry Nobelist (Marty Chalfie) on my Ph.D. committee, prior to my winning the "top student" award that year.

P.S. John Cook was also involved in a totally bogus study called "NASA Faked the Moon Landing—Therefore, (Climate) Science Is a Hoax
An Anatomy of the Motivated Rejection of Science" which lied about a "skeptic" survey replied to *mainly* by his activist "Climate Communicator" buddies!
rug
3.2 / 5 (25) Aug 28, 2013
hahahahahahahahaha Nik, you did it again, I love it. You prove the globe is warming every time you post a link!
Gmr
3.4 / 5 (23) Aug 28, 2013
It is so endearing when he faceplants into his laurels.

And honestly I've never seen the like of his Limbaugh-trained ad-hominem attempts to discredit anyone and their mother. Again, if he can insult the other guy first, he wins you know. By default.
NikFromNYC
1.9 / 5 (32) Aug 28, 2013
rug: how does it feel to be a straw manner?

Gmr: how does it feel to be a snide innuendist?
rug
3.2 / 5 (24) Aug 28, 2013
rug: how does it feel to be a straw manner?

Gmr: how does it feel to be a snide innuendist?


How does it feel to be a narcissistic dumbass? You know, they have medication for that now.
JohnGee
3.2 / 5 (21) Aug 28, 2013
Not that I believe Nik has a PhD, but anyone remember Oliver Manuel? He actually had a terminal degree, and I doubt anyone here gave two shits that he did. What about Prof. Johan F. Prins? Does anyone here believe he's created room temperature semi-conductors?

Nik, I'm sure McDonalds is more interested in your CV than any of us are.
Gmr
3.4 / 5 (17) Aug 28, 2013
At least he's keeping it short now. Thankfully. Much preferable to the three page "Look at meee!" that he normally posts.

He's the kind that would give himself a high five.
JohnGee
3.2 / 5 (21) Aug 28, 2013
I mean come on, he has the gall to claim he is a carbon physicist like such a person wouldn't understand CO2 and its implications. It's like ubavontuba claiming he is a professional environmentalist.
Gmr
3.4 / 5 (18) Aug 28, 2013
Oh, but I don't doubt his degree for a moment. Not a jot of hesitation accepting that. I'm perfectly willing to believe a PhD chemist spends a lot of his time bunking science sites. There are more wasteful and self-destructive hobbies - drugs, for instance. Or model trains.

So really, it's better he's here blustering and making ominous observations about what he's gleaned from looking at profiles and this new-fangled web regarding people he's jousting with. It could be worse.
NikFromNYC
1.8 / 5 (25) Aug 28, 2013
JohnGee: I bashed Manuel and another wacky "skeptic" or two on shock jock skeptical blogger Steve Goddard's site here:

http://stevengodd...t-200308

Steve himself kept posting Nazi imagery and this was very bad PR before the NSA and IRS scandals kicked in to tear a gaping hole in Obama's Teflon suit.

And John, I run a company so I don't need a CV, but a hiring boycott is now growing quite spontaneously towards your ilk as the Global Warming scam is publicly separating the savvy from the proud dupes.

Solidproof_Layman
4 / 5 (23) Aug 28, 2013
Bryce Brown who invented radar guns also invented the detectors...
-- NikFromNYC

Wrong. Dale Smith invented the radar detector.

You may need to fact-check other dubious claims you have made.
Gmr
3.4 / 5 (18) Aug 28, 2013
Oh, now some of it becomes clear.

He's used to a friendly "home" crowd and seems to be out of his element at "away" games. I'm wondering how hard it is to become recognized an expert on such sites.
JohnGee
3.2 / 5 (20) Aug 28, 2013
Not just that but it seems he is accustomed to booting visitors from the home stadium.
NikFromNYC
1.9 / 5 (26) Aug 28, 2013
Sounproof: my offhand comment stands corrected as I see that the radar gun maker was not the guy who invented it: "Dale Smith, who had experience producing radar units for police, contended that he wasn't speeding: the police officer was operating the unit incorrectly. The officer wouldn't listen. In response to this, Mr. Smith invented his radar detector in 1968, which was later dubbed "The Fuzzbuster"."

I've spent five years now "fact checking" what are indeed dubious claims in Climatology.

Have you taken your own advice and done the same?

I like your R. Crumb avatar in your profile. I fondly decicated one of my old Global Warming infographics to him, and included an update of Banksy's police state protests:
http://k.min.us/iby6xe.gif
rug
3 / 5 (21) Aug 28, 2013
I'm wondering how hard it is to become recognized an expert on such sites.

Not hard, just have to make stuff up. They can't tell cause they don't know any better, and/or they don't care.
Gmr
3.3 / 5 (19) Aug 28, 2013
Not just that but it seems he is accustomed to booting visitors from the home stadium.


Ah. See, dissent didn't happen if the dissenters aren't around anymore.

I have a feeling Nik does this in real life - eschewing and shunning barristas who get his sugars wrong, avoiding a sibling for years who dared to call him out on a family memory or fact. Living in a large city you could do this for some time. Until you get really, really old. Either physically or figuratively.
JohnGee
3 / 5 (21) Aug 28, 2013
Assuming he actually owns a company, has a PhD, etc, I shudder to think how many good people he may have fired for entirely irrational/petty reasons. People like him and some obvious others here are why unrestricted capitalism is a terminally flawed system.
NikFromNYC
2 / 5 (24) Aug 28, 2013
rug, Steve Goddard posted the computer code he uses to digest raw data archives into standard spreadsheet format for non-programmers to analyze too:

http://stevengodd...eleased/

Buncha dummies o'er there!
Gmr
3.3 / 5 (19) Aug 28, 2013
He's not the kind to fire an underling, I think. Terrorize, threaten with exposure of information, threaten with polluting a curriculum vitae and blackballing, but I don't think the direct confrontation of firing is in him. If he could do it through a button, maybe.

I'm picturing a more friendship-based passive-aggressive type. You're on the ins if you agree with him, regardless of what you actually can do. But disagree, and he'll drive you to quit.
Gmr
3.1 / 5 (17) Aug 28, 2013
I'm wondering how hard it is to become recognized an expert on such sites.

Not hard, just have to make stuff up. They can't tell cause they don't know any better, and/or they don't care.

I'd wager on "don't care." If you like the sermon you don't quibble with the preacher.
rug
3.6 / 5 (20) Aug 28, 2013
rug, Steve Goddard posted the computer code he uses to digest raw data archives into standard spreadsheet format for non-programmers to analyze too:

http://stevengodd...eleased/


Ah finnally something in my exact refrance of knowlage. YAY I get to geek out on C++ code for a while. Well, I like assembly better, but I can deal with the kiddy stuff for a bit.
rug
3.7 / 5 (18) Aug 28, 2013
awwww now I'm dissapointed. The code that was suposivly released according to the article nik linked me too wasn't on the server :( Guess that means it just more made up BS from nik. If I can't see the source I'm not trusting the data.
Gmr
3.8 / 5 (17) Aug 28, 2013
awwww now I'm dissapointed. The code that was suposivly released according to the article nik linked me too wasn't on the server :( Guess that means it just more made up BS from nik. If I can't see the source I'm not trusting the data.


I'm jealous you can understand assembler. It's something I aspire to someday, and I'm impressed by anybody who can get that close to talking directly with the chipset. Other guy I knew who could do that didn't really have a high school diploma - just a friggin' genius.
NikFromNYC
1.8 / 5 (25) Aug 28, 2013
rug/Gmr: my background isn't just coding, but building macromolecular scale units for eventual use in the processors themselves. Hard wiring, baby. I did start with assembler on an Apple II though. Poke and peek. Back in 1994 I was briefly involved in porting the encryption program PGP to the Mac, but mainly on the interface side. C++ wasn't too useful since it relied on huge libraries that bloated everything.

rug, how is a old missing file "made up BS"?

The plaintext is here:
https://stevengod...cn-code/
rug
3.6 / 5 (20) Aug 28, 2013
I'm jealous you can understand assembler. It's something I aspire to someday, and I'm impressed by anybody who can get that close to talking directly with the chipset. Other guy I knew who could do that didn't really have a high school diploma - just a friggin' genius.


Assembly makes more sense to me then anything else. My professors thought I was crazy because of it. lol

You chould ceck out GRC.com Steve does all his work in assembly. Plus, his hard drive util can save you a fortune on data recovery. lol He's got a lot of cool stuff and really gets computers from the ground up. He does a podcast on TWIT.tv called security now. Great show and really goes into detail. If you are interested in this stuff can't ask for a better teacher.
rug
3 / 5 (18) Aug 29, 2013
rug/Gmr: my background isn't just coding, but building macromolecular scale units for eventual use in the processors themselves. Hard wiring, baby. I did start with assembler on an Apple II though. Poke and peek. Back in 1994 I was briefly involved in porting the encryption program PGP to the Mac, but mainly on the interface side. C++ wasn't too useful since it relied on huge libraries that bloated everything.

Some how I just don't believe this any more then anything else you say. Maybe I should go ask jacob (one dev guys) if he has heard of you. I'm sure if you've been there he would know it.
Gmr
3.4 / 5 (16) Aug 29, 2013
Thanks a lot, rug! I'll be more than happy to check it out on your recommendation.

I have to ask - it's an information-dense environment (and the interface designer in me is weeping), so where would be a good place to start?
NikFromNYC
2 / 5 (21) Aug 29, 2013
rug, anybody and everybody could do assembler on an Apple II as little additions to BASIC programs via the poke and peek command. I was in no way connected to a development team.

The PGP effort was announced in 1994, here, when I was using the name -=Xenon=- instead of -=NikFromNYC=-:
https://groups.go...hPCdS2Ks

Back then I was studying chemistry and never did learn how to program the Mac since my old "Inside Macintosh" book was too thick and the new C++ books I bought were full of bizarre postmodern theory as far as I could tell! Now I just use Mathematica and Perl as needed and a bit of Postscript for output and at times some Javascript and most recently lots of Grasshopper visual programs within the Rhino 3D design program.
rug
3.5 / 5 (19) Aug 29, 2013
First off you need a good compiler. I tend to use open source. http://flatassembler.net/ A test system or VM (just incase you mess up) and maybe a tutoral to get you started. http://www.tutori...ndex.htm
Gmr
3.3 / 5 (14) Aug 29, 2013
First off you need a good compiler. I tend to use open source. http://flatassembler.net/

Awesome! : D I am very very happy now - something I can attack that I've been putting off for a very long time.

I have heard of your mythical "stack" and wish to learn more...
NikFromNYC
2 / 5 (22) Aug 29, 2013
In 1983 my high school was awarded an Apple II with my name on it since I won the Minnesota Educational Computing Consortium mouse-in-a-maze contest:

http://www.mecc.c...983.html
"• The annual budget for fiscal year ending June 30, 1983, was $8,746,096.
• MECC Maze contest—a student programming contest."

I just had the little guy turn left at every intersection, which automatically made it back out of dead ends too. Doing this required zero extra computing power like the other guys' extensive mapping schemes did! I didn't even randomize the initially chosen repeated turn direction since I figured I wanted to possibly win big by getting lucky with the L/R bias of the maze, instead of playing it safe for a guaranteed but boring win.

In 1994 as -=Xenon=-, I released Stealth-PGP, a steganography add-on for PGP users that stripped PGP message headers and later fully restored them from the digits alone:
http://cypherpunk...285.html
NikFromNYC
2 / 5 (21) Aug 29, 2013
Also in 1994 as -=Xenon=-, during the nasty Republican congressional attempt to ban encryption software that you *now* enjoy on your smart phone if you want to, I also ran an online anonymous remailer:
http://cypherpunk...139.html

Guess what? We won!!! Next activist cause for me: the Democratic congressional attempts to ban climate skepticism both within government and within academia via R&D funding policy.

Thanks for reading this far, but many people here have questioned my motivation. It's just dorky online activism, folks. I don't like oppressive fanaticism from either side of the political landscape. I am guilty of independent thinking, devoid of tribalism. That's why I seem to sponsor group bonding sessions like the one above, I guess.
ubavontuba
1.8 / 5 (26) Aug 29, 2013
Previous investigations into the so-called climate "halt" have explored the idea that the missing heat is being taken up by the deep sea.

The new research, though, suggests otherwise
LOL. Now that they've been thoroughly embarrassed with the deep ocean heating claim, they're desperate to try something new.

VendicarE
2.8 / 5 (19) Aug 29, 2013
"An interesting thing about the AGW Believers is that for many years they have be denying that there has been no increase in Global Temperatures." - FreeTard

Another lie from the Free Tard.

From the article that he is incapable of honestly responding to...

"But over the last 15 years, the increase has slowed to a rate of 0.05 C (0.09 F) per decade, even though fossil-fuel carbon emissions continue to break new records."

What has been made explicitly clear to the Denialist Retards is that the claimed cooling is actually a slight warming and represents a short term fluctuation from the greater rates of warming that is unrelated to climate.

To claim the climate is not warming demands that one restrict one's comments to climate and not weather.

Poor Free Tard. He will never understand the difference between climate and weather.
VendicarE
2.9 / 5 (16) Aug 29, 2013
"New climate study finds that the future is different than the future that is now which is the future that the future will show was not actually different than the future Climatology predicted it to be, in the past." - NikkieTard

This is really now denialist Retards think. Muddled, Confused, Irrational, and nonsensical.
Gmr
4.1 / 5 (18) Aug 29, 2013
You know, I'm repeatedly annoyed by the invective "tard" as the parent of a developmentally disabled child.

There is no malice attached to mental disability or being developmentally disabled, and I'm steadily becoming tired of threadcrapping that relies most heavily on this untrue bias.
VendicarE
2.8 / 5 (15) Aug 29, 2013
"MandoZink's graph is from a smear site run by a repeat scientific fraud" - NikkieTard

NikkieTard doesn't like the graphic, which anyone who is interested can verify for themselves.

http://www.skepti..._500.gif

http://www.woodfo...95/trend

Poor NikkieTard. He can't make the truth go away so he resorts to naked Slander and lies just like he always does.
VendicarE
2.8 / 5 (15) Aug 29, 2013
"I did start with assembler on an Apple II though. Poke and peek." - NikkieTard

NikkieTard probably hasn't written anything in assembler either since poke and peek aren't part of the 6502 assembler mnemonics, but part of the "BASIC" programming language that was available at the time.

The only education NikkieTard has is a PHD is lying from Rush Limbaugh University.
VendicarE
2.8 / 5 (15) Aug 29, 2013
"anybody and everybody could do assembler on an Apple II as little additions to BASIC programs via the poke and peek command." - NikkieTard

And again, Poke and Peek are not part of 6502 assembler. They are commands in the basic language.

As always... NikkieTard is a clueless liar.
NikFromNYC
1.9 / 5 (23) Aug 29, 2013
Real link to the paper with readable diagrams: http://www.nature...534.html

Background on VendicarE, one of the Net's most notorious death threat flinging trolls:
http://www.freag....t_nudds.

Oh Gmr, that's *two* jailbirds in one thread, furiously stuffing straw into my shirt, desperately trying to claim that serious skeptics are not serious people when it comes to the complex message that the warming "pause" has to offer, namely that current temperature on Earth is now exiting the statistical bands that mean climate models that rely on massive water vapor amplification of the classic greenhouse effect stand bluntly falsified. Also, the logical conclusion that attaches to claims that the lull is due to natural variation and especially ocean cycles *also* attaches natural variability to the most recent *warming* swing that was blamed on emissions!

UH OH.

A furious smoke screen is indeed in order, "Climate Communicators"!
NikFromNYC
1.8 / 5 (22) Aug 29, 2013
VendicarE confirms that poke and peek were how one used the standard BASIC command line of an Apple II to directly write to (poke) and read (peek) memory directly, in order to insert 6502 assembly language programs that you wrote out on paper. I can't remember how you then made them run, but that was thirty years ago! Using BASIC meant you could run the overall program from the usual BASIC. I didn't get very deeply into my WWII veteran aircraft instrument technician and eventual Honeywell Aerospace engineer dad's copy of Knuth's "Art of Computer Programming" book though, which was written in the late 60s and based on an idealized processor and manually tracked memory stack, such as on this page:
http://s24.postim...Page.jpg

By adding randomized sine waves together I turned my Apple II into a funky sound generator with lots of industrial base and tinny buzzing. If two waves were of similar frequency you got quite extended beat patterns.
thermodynamics
3.8 / 5 (13) Aug 29, 2013
Nik: apparently you did not get very deep into Knuth's book (as you note) because you recall it as a single book. There were actuLly three volumes, not one book. There is still a lot one can learn from them. He produced a fourth volume that I have not worked through. The volumes he put together have no competition and are still used in advanced numerical courses. If anyone wants a chanenge with a great reward, those are the volumes to plow through.
NikFromNYC
1.8 / 5 (22) Aug 29, 2013
VendicarE's WoodForTrees site plot of the latest HADCRUT global average temperature omitted a century of data. Looking at the simple plot that does not show only *half* the record but merely adds an innocent visual gap around 1940 when CO₂ emissions kicked in during the postwar boom and third world industrialization, reveals that the recent high emissions variation has such nearly exact precedence that recent dismissal of natural variation is rather laughable:

http://www.woodfo.../to:1950
NikFromNYC
1.7 / 5 (22) Aug 29, 2013
Climatologist Judith Curry comments on this paper: "But no matter what, I am coming up with natural internal variability associated accounting for significantly MORE than half of the observed warming.

Like I said, my mind is blown. I have long argued that the pause was associated with the climate shift in the Pacific Ocean circulation, characterized by the change to the cool phase of the PDO. I have further argued that if this is the case, then the warming since 1976 was heavily juiced by the warm phase of the PDO. I didn't know how to quantify this, but I thought that it might account for at least half of the observed warming, and hence my questioning of the IPCC's highly confident attribution of 'most' to AGW.

Although this was not a specific conclusion of the paper (the focused on the period 2002-2012), the conclusion jumps out from their Fig 1 (and my eyeball analysis)."

http://judithcurr...cooling/
verkle
1 / 5 (12) Aug 29, 2013
Why would someone boast that they can write in assembler better? It isn't portable like C is, and has to be re-developed for each computer architecture. A real pain. There is a good reason why C has become used far more than assembler.

BTW, I started out in BASIC in 1980 and spent my whole summers writing code. Wish I still had a copy of those programs.

If you allow me to boast----I captured the regional programming 4-hour marathon in 1984, the only one able to finish writing completed working programs to each of the problems presented. ---End of boast---

Now I much prefer C.
Gmr
4 / 5 (16) Aug 29, 2013
See what threadcrapping gets you. You've gone and agitated Nik again, to no purpose.

If you want or expect people to be reasonable, you have to show yourself capable of modeling that behavior.

And again, the "tard" fixation is both sophmoric and offensive: it alienates an audience as it lowers the level of discourse. A two-fer. A completely counterproductive two-fer.
rug
3.8 / 5 (20) Aug 29, 2013
VendicarE's WoodForTrees site plot of the latest HADCRUT global average temperature omitted a century of data. Looking at the simple plot that does not show only *half* the record but merely adds an innocent visual gap around 1940 when CO₂ emissions kicked in during the postwar boom and third world industrialization, reveals that the recent high emissions variation has such nearly exact precedence that recent dismissal of natural variation is rather laughable:

http://www.woodfo.../to:1950


Happy now? http://www.woodfo.../to:2012 I fixed it for you.
rug
3.5 / 5 (16) Aug 29, 2013
Why would someone boast that they can write in assembler better? It isn't portable like C is, and has to be re-developed for each computer architecture. A real pain. There is a good reason why C has become used far more than assembler.


C is a lot more useful, I just happen to like assembly better. Just my preference.
NikFromNYC
1.5 / 5 (22) Aug 31, 2013
Physicist Lubos Motl comments: "The more you use natural variations such as El Niño, PDO etc. to explain what's actually going on and what's being observed, the more important the natural drivers become, the more irrelevant the CO2 gets, the more the skeptics who claim that the climate change is mostly natural are shown to be right (many skeptics have talked about the important influence of the ocean cycles and patterns for many decades and most skeptics today are well aware about the tight PDO-global-temperature correlation in the last 100 years), and the more discredited the AGW doctrine becomes along with its defenders."

http://motls.blog...ing.html
runrig
4.4 / 5 (14) Aug 31, 2013
"............ most skeptics today are well aware about the tight PDO-global-temperature correlation in the last 100 years), and the more discredited the AGW doctrine becomes along with its defenders."

ENSO/PDO does not "drive " in one direction, it's a cyclic churning around of warm/cold waters with teleconnections to the Trades - there is up and down. When taken out of the equation there is an underlying warming trend from our real GW driver - Anthro. CO2.

Look here (fig 4): http://www.aussmc...ling.pdf
To see the GW trend when the ENSO cycle is removed.
"The two American data sets show continued warming over the past 20 years in their ENSO adjusted warming. The British data set has a rather slower rate of warming over the past 20
years when ENSO-adjusted3, but its highest ENSO-adjusted value is nevertheless 2006 and
the trend in the ENSO-adjusted data over the past 10 years (1998-2007) remains upward"
NikFromNYC
1.7 / 5 (24) Aug 31, 2013
runrig fully demonstrates how Climatology members promote their cult to the media, and thus policy makers too, regrettably, in a chronic recession no less:

(1) "Adjust" away inconvenient data points to mangle the data to fit the theory.
(2) Write a blog entry up in scientific paper manuscript format.
(3) Promote it widely, hoping as before that the IPCC will reference such activist trash as if it really was published in a peer reviewed journal.
(4) Keep promoting the "paper" five years later as a smoke screen to conceal the recent squeal of frantic quotes from climate modellers themselves about the warming "pause" that devastatingly steals the thunder from Man and hands it back to Nature, warming included.
(5) Create hundred thousand word smear sites that claim that skeptics are doing (1)-(4), since really, that is after all what lazy environmental journalists suffering from massive student loan debt want to hear, right?

Natural climate change denial...heads in the sand!
rug
3.6 / 5 (20) Aug 31, 2013
Thats funny, you've been claiming that there wasn't a warming trend at all, now you are saying it a natural change. More evidence of your dumbassery.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1.6 / 5 (13) Aug 31, 2013
'Temporary' on these time scales can mean 1000s of years. Hopefully this lull will get us through to the end of the interglacial when we will begin to appreciate global warming, and desperately start burning all the fossil fuels we possibly can. This might be easier than you might think:
http://usatoday30...213824/1
http://www.youtub...M1QpuwWI
runrig
3.9 / 5 (13) Aug 31, 2013
runrig fully demonstrates how Climatology members promote their cult to the media, and thus policy makers too, regrettably, in a chronic recession no less:

Natural climate change denial...heads in the sand!


More verbal diarrhea - the fact remains that after taking away the current ENSO/PDO overlying cooling there is a still a GW signal.
VendicarE
2.6 / 5 (13) Aug 31, 2013
"the "tard" fixation is both sophmoric and offensive" - Gmr

Gmr is right.

Liars, Cheats, Thieves and mass murderers should not be insulted and shown the disrespect they are due, it just makes them more prone to lying, cheating thieving, and mass murdering.

Open the prisons. Doing so will only show our good will to the criminals and they will be magically transformed into law abiding citizens.
VendicarE
2.5 / 5 (11) Aug 31, 2013
"There is a good reason why C has become used far more than assembler." - Verkle

Yes. It is called "Pure Stupidity".

C is responsible - DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE - for virtually every security hole ever exploited, and has cost the world trillions of dollars in failures of all kind.

C is mostly dead at this point, with C++ taking it's place. C++ is somewhat better, but still suffers from most of the same spectacular flaws as C.

The claim that C is portable is also false since C does not define the size of it's variables, no C program ever written can be guaranteed to run on another platform unless that platform shares essentially the same variable characteristics as the original platform.

C is by far the worst of the "popular" languages, and when K of K&R recently croaked, I drank a toast to his passing.

Virtually of the stdio routines provided with the standard C languages are so poorly conceived and written that they introduce security failures in any program that uses them.
VendicarE
2.6 / 5 (10) Aug 31, 2013
Consider the function gets. Which reads a string from stdio into a buffer.

The syntax is... gets(ptr to buffer)

Note there is not specification of the number of characters to get.

Gets continues to read data from STDIO until it reaches a terminating character.

If no terminating character is seen, it will continue to read past the end of the buffer.

if the buffer is allocated on the stack, it will overwrite a portion of the stack.

This "feature" of gets has been used to inject code into applications by filling the buffer with code, and overloading the buffer so that a jump into the code is placed onto the stack.

This is the design "quality" and character that permeates the filth that is the C language.

VendicarE
2.6 / 5 (10) Aug 31, 2013
"Physicist Lubos Motl comments" - NikkieTard

Lubos Motil is mentally ill.

That is why he was fired from Harvard.

You can check on Motil here.

http://www.physic...u/~motl/
VendicarE
2.9 / 5 (12) Aug 31, 2013
" "Adjust" away inconvenient data points to mangle the data to fit the theory." - NikkieTard

NikkieTard doesn't like data adjustment even though data adjustment is part of every scientific measurement.

It is called Calibration.

Poor, ignorant, NikkieTard. He just doesn't understand Science.
VendicarE
2.9 / 5 (10) Aug 31, 2013
"The more you use natural variations such as El Niño, PDO etc. to explain what's actually going on and what's being observed, the more important the natural drivers become, the more irrelevant the CO2 gets" - NikkieTard quoting mentally ill Lubos Motil

Mentally ill Motil can't bring himself to understand the difference between stochastic noise and the signal that the noise is imposed upon.

Motil has a medical excuse.

What is NikkieTard's excuse for following him down the rabbit hole?

VendicarE
2.2 / 5 (10) Aug 31, 2013
"Why would someone boast that they can write in assembler better?" - Verkle

Probably because Assembler is a vastly superior language than C.

If you wan't your programs to run 4 to 6 or more times slower than needed, you write in C++ or C.

In many cases, going to Assembler gives a speed performance increase of a factor of 200 or more.
Gmr
3.9 / 5 (11) Aug 31, 2013
"the "tard" fixation is both sophmoric and offensive" - Gmr

Gmr is right.

Liars, Cheats, Thieves and mass murderers should not be insulted and shown the disrespect they are due, it just makes them more prone to lying, cheating thieving, and mass murdering.

Open the prisons. Doing so will only show our good will to the criminals and they will be magically transformed into law abiding citizens.

So... you are, what, equating developmental disability with criminal behavior? I'm confused. If this is justification... all I can say is "You're doing it wrong."
Gmr
4.2 / 5 (10) Aug 31, 2013
And, VendicarE, releasing criminals from prison would not make much towards this point: most of those guilty of the financial crisis and dragging us into the Iraq war are not in prison and have never even been charged.
VendicarE
2.6 / 5 (11) Aug 31, 2013
Should have read: "New model finds"" - ClaudiusTard

All science is modeling, Tardieboy.

Was it your goal to embarrass yourself so completely?
VendicarE
2.9 / 5 (8) Aug 31, 2013
"So... you are, what, equating developmental disability with criminal behavior?" - Gmr

No, I am equating criminal behavior with criminal behavior.

VendicarE
2.6 / 5 (10) Aug 31, 2013
"those guilty of the financial crisis and dragging us into the Iraq war are not in prison and have never even been charged." - Gmr

Those would be Republicans, Randites and Libertarians. The same criminals posting nonsense anti-science here.

You fail to see the equivalency.
Gmr
4 / 5 (8) Sep 01, 2013
"those guilty of the financial crisis and dragging us into the Iraq war are not in prison and have never even been charged." - Gmr

Those would be Republicans, Randites and Libertarians. The same criminals posting nonsense anti-science here.

You fail to see the equivalency.

To the developmentally disabled? Yes.
VendicarE
2.8 / 5 (9) Sep 01, 2013
What Recovery?

U.S. banks reported a record net income of $42 billion between April and June. At JPMorgan Chase, profits increased by 31 percent to $6.5 billion in the second quarter. That means the bank made on average more than $70 million a day during that period. Meanwhile, CNN Money reports the nation's five biggest banks are on track to pay out $127 billion in total compensation, including at least $23 billion in bonuses, this year.
VendicarE
2.5 / 5 (8) Sep 01, 2013
"To the developmentally disabled?" - Gmr

Then you must not consider Treason and the promotion of genocide and mass murder and economic suicide, to be criminals.

I do.

ubavontuba
1.4 / 5 (19) Sep 01, 2013
GMR,

To the developmentally disabled? Yes.
VendicarE isn't a real person, it's a chatterbot. It doesn't have the ability to understand the cruelty inflicted upon innocents by the use of its favorite retort. It simply isn't capable of feeling anything at all.

The real perpetrator of these vile retorts are the owner and operators of Phys.org. I suggest you direct your concerns toward them.

TheGhostofOtto1923
4 / 5 (8) Sep 01, 2013
understand the cruelty inflicted
Hey moron

"Tard
Any person who is not developmentally disabled, but rather has what is considered normal cognitive faculties but for whatever reason has opted out of using it. Whereas mental retardation is genetic in nature, this form of behavior is environmental usually resulting in too much daytime television, Brittany Spears piped in pop music, and other environmental factors."

"imbecile
1 usually offensive : a person affected with moderate mental retardation"

"Moron
2. Psychology A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education."

-You've seen these before and failed to learn. Do you yourself suffer from some sort of disability?
ubavontuba
1.3 / 5 (19) Sep 01, 2013
understand the cruelty inflicted
Hey moron

"Tard
Any person who is not developmentally disabled, but rather has what is considered normal cognitive faculties but for whatever reason has opted out of using it. Whereas mental retardation is genetic in nature, this form of behavior is environmental usually resulting in too much daytime television, Brittany Spears piped in pop music, and other environmental factors."
Hey moron,

Instead of using just a cherry picked definition from the Urban Dictionary, why not actually look up and compare broader definitions?

tard definition

n.
a person who behaves as if retarded. (See also retard. DEROGATORY and potentially CRUEL.) : (emphasis added)

http://dictionary...wse/tard

djr
4.7 / 5 (13) Sep 01, 2013
Hey Vendi and Otto - why not just drop the word tard? Whatever the dictionary definition may be - it is definitely an offensive term here in the U.S. - and I think in many other parts of the world. Calling someone an idiot (or similar term) is a direct offense - but not a general offense that could offend others who are reading the comment. Vendi - you quit the death threats - and I think people are more willing to read your comments as a result - how about one more step?
Noumenon
2 / 5 (16) Sep 01, 2013
understand the cruelty inflicted
Hey moron

"Tard
Any person who is not developmentally disabled, but rather has what is considered normal cognitive faculties but for whatever reason has opted out of using it. Whereas mental retardation is genetic in nature, this form of behavior is environmental usually resulting in too much daytime television, Brittany Spears piped in pop music, and other environmental factors."

"imbecile
1 usually offensive : a person affected with moderate mental retardation"

"Moron
2. Psychology A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education."

-You've seen these before and failed to learn. Do you yourself suffer from some sort of disability?


You had to look those up?
VendicarE
3.1 / 5 (11) Sep 01, 2013
"tard definition

n.
a person who behaves as if retarded."- UbVonTard

The Tard defines itself.

Internet classic.
VendicarE
3 / 5 (10) Sep 01, 2013
"Whatever the dictionary definition may be - it is definitely an offensive term here in the U.S." - dir

The purpose of course is to offend, since the offense is well deserved.

Those who are undeserving of respect, shall receive none from me.

You are a facilitator.
djr
4.5 / 5 (12) Sep 01, 2013
The purpose of course is to offend, since the offense is well deserved.

But the offense goes to people who are not the object of your derision. The offense goes to folks with developmental disabilities - it really makes you look bad. Can't you find another word - jerk works just fine.
Noumenon
1.9 / 5 (17) Sep 01, 2013
Vendicar has been an insulting juvenile since bbs days. I doubt she will grow up because you asked politely.

Not all people with developmental disabilities are juveniles, but all juveniles have developmental disabilities.
VendicarE
3 / 5 (8) Sep 01, 2013
NumenTard has taken an interest in my posting history. That is amusing.
VendicarE
2.5 / 5 (8) Sep 01, 2013
"The offense goes to folks with developmental disabilities - it really makes you look bad." - dir

Is this NikkieTard?

http://i659.photo...tard.jpg

Put the Needle down TardieBoy.

Put it down, like a nice little Retard.

or perhaps this is ParkerTard er, NikkieTard.

http://www.street...10/l.jpg
mountain_team_guy
1.7 / 5 (18) Sep 02, 2013
Reminds me of a cult predicting the end of the world and pushing the date back every time it fails to happen. There's no end of the articles on this website claiming the effects of global warming are exacerbated by one mechanism after another, yet matched with more articles excusing the absence of effects.
ubavontuba
1.6 / 5 (19) Sep 02, 2013
Reminds me of a cult predicting the end of the world and pushing the date back every time it fails to happen. There's no end of the articles on this website claiming the effects of global warming are exacerbated by one mechanism after another, yet matched with more articles excusing the absence of effects.
Even worse, they regularly claim global warming is accelerating, sea level rise is accelerating, tornadoes are increasing, and so on, ...and then when the opposite happens, they say global warming is the cause!

VendicarE
3.3 / 5 (10) Sep 02, 2013
"14 Floors to go and all is fine."
"13 Floors to go and no problems so far."
"12 Floors to go and just a bit of wind."
"11 Floors to go and the ground must be some kind of scam."

- MountainTard
VendicarE
3.4 / 5 (10) Sep 02, 2013
"then when the opposite happens" - UbVonTard

UbVonTard still can't fathom the difference between short term noise and long term climate trends.

The planet is heating rapidly, The Arctic ice cap is vanishing rapidly, and ocean levels are rising at a faster rate than has been historically the case.

These are just a few of the various effects of the ongoing heating of the globe.

UnVonTard's dishonest cherry picking will not alter those facts.
ubavontuba
1.5 / 5 (17) Sep 02, 2013
The planet is heating rapidly,
Chatterbot lie.

The Arctic ice cap is vanishing rapidly,
Chatterbot lie.

and ocean levels are rising at a faster rate than has been historically the case.
And another chatterbot lie

Are lies all you have?

JohnGee
3.2 / 5 (14) Sep 02, 2013
Even worse, they regularly claim global warming is accelerating, sea level rise is accelerating, tornadoes are increasing, and so on, ...and then when the opposite happens, they say global warming is the cause!
Denialbot lies.
Moebius
3.3 / 5 (12) Sep 02, 2013
One fact remains the same. Global warming's causes are obvious to any brain with at least a couple of functioning critical thinking molecules.

Anyone who doesn't believe it's all man made has no critical thinking capability at all and must be a complete moron.
julianpenrod
1 / 5 (15) Sep 02, 2013
The pumping of weather modification chemicals into the atmosphere from high flying jets, leaving long, non dissipating vapor lanes in the sky, what has come to be termed "chemtrails", beginning in around 1950, coincides with the skyrocketing or tornado numbers from about 180 a year to seven or more times that now. It also coincides with the development of new cloud types. Since the atmosphere became saturated in about 1997, and new chemical simply precipitated out, the major massive effects attributed to climate change began in staccato rapidity, although carbon dioxide in the air changed only slightly. Now it's being admitted that temperature rise stalled around 1997, when the air became saturated. Climate change is caused by chemtrails.
antigoracle
1 / 5 (14) Sep 06, 2013
"The current hiatus is part of natural climate variability," they said.

Yep, cooling is natural, but the warming is "naturally" from human produced CO2. Only the ignorant in the AGW Alarmist Cult could swallow such crap... er.. excuse me AGW "science".
antigoracle
1 / 5 (14) Sep 06, 2013
One fact remains the same. Global warming's causes are obvious to any brain with at least a couple of functioning critical thinking molecules.

Anyone who doesn't believe it's all man made has no critical thinking capability at all and must be a complete moron.

Hmmm... strong be the stupid in this one, very strong.