US intelligence chief sorry for 'erroneous' answer (Update)

Jul 02, 2013 by Kimberly Dozier
This April 18, 2013 file photo shows National Intelligence Director James Clapper testifying on Capitol Hill in Washington. Clapper is apologizing for telling Congress earlier this year that the National Security Agency does not collect data on millions of Americans. In a letter to Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., Clapper says his answer was "clearly erroneous." (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper apologized for telling Congress earlier this year that the National Security Agency does not collect data on millions of Americans, a response he now says was "clearly erroneous."

Clapper apologized in a letter to Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein. His agency posted the letter Tuesday on its website.

Leaks by former NSA systems analyst Edward Snowden have revealed the NSA's sweeping data collection of U.S. phone records and some Internet traffic every day, though U.S. intelligence officials have said the programs are aimed at targeting foreigners and terrorist suspects mostly overseas.

Clapper was asked during a hearing in March by Sen. Ron Wyden, a Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, if the NSA gathered "any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans."

At first, Clapper answered definitively: "No."

Pressed by Wyden, Clapper changed his answer. "Not wittingly," he said. "There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly."

Last month, in an interview with NBC News after revelations about the program, Clapper said: "I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful, manner"—because the program was classified.

In his letter to Feinstein, Clapper wrote that he was thinking about whether the NSA gathered the content of emails, rather than the metadata of the phone records—the record of calls to and from U.S. citizens and the length of those phone calls.

"I realized later Sen. Wyden was asking about ... metadata collection, rather than content collection," Clapper wrote. "Thus, my response was clearly erroneous, for which I apologize."

Feinstein said in a statement Tuesday: "I have received Director Clapper's letter and believe it speaks for itself. I have no further comment at this time."

Wyden spokesman Tom Caiazza said Tuesday that when Wyden staffers contacted Clapper's office shortly after the hearing, his staffers "acknowledged that the statement was inaccurate but refused to correct the public record when given the opportunity."

"Sen. Wyden is deeply troubled by a number of misleading statements senior officials have made about domestic surveillance in the past several years. He will continue pushing for an open and honest debate," Caiazza said.

In the letter, Clapper said he could now publicly correct the record, because the existence of the metadata collection program has been declassified since the deluge of leaks from Snowden. A copy of the letter posted on the DNI website was stamped June 21 but made public on Tuesday.

Snowden is believed to be in a Moscow airport transit area, seeking asylum from one of more than a dozen countries.

Since the revelations, the Obama administration has said the leaks have caused damage to national security, including tipping off al-Qaida and other terrorist groups to specific types of U.S. electronic surveillance.

But under pressure from lawmakers and privacy activists, the administration took the extraordinary step of declassifying many of the details surrounding the surveillance programs and how they work, to explain to Americans that NSA is not spying directly on them, which would violate its charter.

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Humpty
2.9 / 5 (16) Jul 02, 2013
He did not give an erroneous answer - he fucking lied.

Like every American Arsehole.

Plain and simple.
jalmy
2.1 / 5 (10) Jul 03, 2013
If something is "classified" you don't lie about it. You say "no comment". YOU f'ing POS. Fire this douchebag! I hope the spy computers pick up this post and send it right to his personal email too.

And Humpty if you think Americans lie anymore than anyone else, well not only are you lying to yourself, but you are an f'ing douchebag as well.
VendicarE
4 / 5 (5) Jul 03, 2013
"He did not give an erroneous answer - he fucking lied." - Humpty

Humpty is observant and accurate.
VendicarE
4.2 / 5 (6) Jul 03, 2013
Americans love being lied to by their leaders.

Where are those Iraqi WMD again?
Claudius
1 / 5 (8) Jul 07, 2013
It was "true" in his "imagination."

Or,

"I never lie, I just make up the truth" - Edith Ann

Even better,

"It was the least untruthful answer possible"

The saddest part is the people he was lying to, Congress, are just a bunch of liars themselves. A den of thieves, condemning one of their henchman's lying behavior.
jmlvu
not rated yet Jul 07, 2013
Let's just lie about having lied before, that will make people trust you.
What else are they hiding?
If I was a congressman these are the questions I ask next:
Is GPS data from cell phones collected without a warrant?
Is GPS data collected on large groups of people?
Does the NSA turn on audio or video recording on peoples cellphones or computers?
Was the Carrier IQ spyware program (Which logged everything done on a android phone) a NSA program?

VendicarE
4 / 5 (4) Jul 07, 2013
Clearly the American People are far too stupid, and incapable of electing honest leaders.

"The saddest part is the people he was lying to, Congress, are just a bunch of liars themselves. A den of thieves, condemning one of their henchman's lying behavior." - ClaudiusTard

This wasn't always the case, Faux news is however doing it's best to make Republicans as dumb and misinformed as possible.
VendicarE
4.2 / 5 (5) Jul 07, 2013
Simple solution.

No Government Secrets.

No secret trials
No secret judges
No secret executions.
No secret warrants
No laws created to obstruct the free flow of information.

Problem Solved.
zaxxon451
5 / 5 (2) Jul 08, 2013
Clearly the American People are far too stupid, and incapable of electing honest leaders.


I don't think Americans are less intelligent than others. Our ignorance is the problem. We are the target of corporate/political brainwashing from the day we are born. Blinded by Spectacle and constructed political division, we are ignorant of the grand deception that hides the fact that neocons and neoliberals have the same corporate agenda and only use social issues to excite their respective voting blocks.
antialias_physorg
5 / 5 (2) Jul 08, 2013
He did not give an erroneous answer - he fucking lied.

It's called 'misremembering'.

But yeah: The euphemisms for 'lying' are getting more and more ridiculous.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (2) Jul 08, 2013
The euphemisms for 'lying' are getting more and more ridiculous.
So aa

"Mon Jul 8, 2013 11:26am EDT
BERLIN (Reuters) - Angela Merkel's government said on Monday that its cooperation with American intelligence was fully regulated by strict legal guidelines after a magazine reported that the U.S. National Security Agency was in close cahoots with German spies."

-Does this look top you like your country is at war with the US? Perhaps it is your fantasies which only seem like reality to you.

They are not.
We are the target of corporate/political brainwashing from the day we are born
Our enemies are real and they WILL destroy us unless we can convince knobheads such as yourself that fighting them is necessary.

This unfortunately means letting the enemy take the first swing. And then when knobheads like yourself find that their facebook page has disappeared and their favorite ice cream is all melted at the quickie mart, they will scream for blood.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (2) Jul 08, 2013
Yo herr Hypocrite

"Recent media reports, though, suggest that European governments not only cooperated with the National Security Agency's Prism program, but in some cases have been far more aggressive in their snooping than the Americans.

"the NSA has a partnership with Germany's foreign intelligence service, or BND, with the Americans providing "analysis tools" for the BND to use as it monitors streams of data passing through Germany.

"French security services routinely intercept all telephone and Internet communications in France, regardless of their origin.

"British intelligence services used equally aggressive tactics to spy on foreign leaders attending a 2009 summit of the G-20 group of industrialized nations. According to the newspaper, they not only monitored phone calls but also set up fake Internet cafes to make it easier to read the attendees' e-mail traffic"

-Looks like poor aa has to wehrmacht with everybody. Es tut mir leid.
zaxxon451
5 / 5 (1) Jul 08, 2013
This unfortunately means letting the enemy take the first swing. And then when knobheads like yourself find that their facebook page has disappeared and their favorite ice cream is all melted at the quickie mart, they will scream for blood.


Thank you for making my point. Your brainwashed mind cannot comprehend the simple fact that our country creates its own enemies.
ValeriaT
1 / 5 (6) Jul 08, 2013
Simple solution.
No Government Secrets.
No secret trials
In dense aether model the ideal social system is characterized with the lack of censorship and classification of information (transfer) - which just provides the route how to achieve it.
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (2) Jul 08, 2013
Thank you for making my point. Your brainwashed mind cannot comprehend the simple fact that our country creates its own enemies
Why do you think it is, that no matter how many al qaida/taliban people we kill in afghanistan, they never seem to run out? Its because they are growing them faster than we can kill them.

Their RELIGION is FORCING their WOMEN to do nothing else but make BABIES until it KILLS them. This creates whole generations of starving, idle youth and their RELIGION tells them this is OUR fault.

Its NOT.

If we werent fighting them over there we would soon enough be fighting them HERE. How fucking HARD is this for you to understand?? It takes a great deal of brainwashing and not a small quantity of drugs, to obscure this obvious FACT.

This will not stop until the culture which CAUSES it is destroyed.
http://youtu.be/9F8vgwBiKl0
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (2) Jul 08, 2013
In dense aether model the ideal social system is characterized with the lack of censorship and classification of information (transfer) - which just provides the route how to achieve it
Yah what does AWT have to say about religion and overpopulation? Is there a god in your infinitely dense universe?
Neinsense99
1.7 / 5 (6) Jul 15, 2013
In dense aether model the ideal social system is characterized with the lack of censorship and classification of information (transfer) - which just provides the route how to achieve it
Yah what does AWT have to say about religion and overpopulation? Is there a god in your infinitely dense universe?

It's dense, alright...
TheGhostofOtto1923
1 / 5 (1) Jul 15, 2013
Snowden will fry because examples need to be set. But I hope we get to see everything he stole. I really do.

I would like to see what we've been up to. And I know that it will not affect how things actually get Done in this world one_bit. I am sure it's all part if the Plan.