Hackers down hundreds of Israeli sites over Gaza

Nov 17, 2012
An Israeli activist wears a Guy Fawkes mask during a protest in 2011. Online activist group Anonymous said it had downed the websites of dozens of Israeli state agencies and a top bank in protest over the Jewish state's deadly air assault on Gaza.

Online activist group Anonymous said on Saturday it had downed the websites of dozens of Israeli state agencies and a top bank in protest over the Jewish state's deadly air assault on Gaza.

The hackers said their operation "OpIsrael" had either damaged or completely erased the sites of more than 650 private and that included the Bank of Jerusalem—one of the country's main finance houses.

"Bank of Jerusalem database has been deleted," the group said in a tweet next to a link to the lender's non-functioning website.

It also claimed to have briefly downed the foreign ministry website in protest over an alleged Israeli threat to cut the Gaza Strip's Internet communications.

"For far too long, has stood by with the rest of the world and watched in despair the barbaric, brutal and despicable treatment of the Palestinian people in the so called 'Occupied Territories' by the Israel Defence Force," Anonymous said in a statement.

"But when the government of Israel publicly threatened to sever all Internet and other telecommunications into and out of Gaza they crossed a line in the sand."

The group threatened Israel with the "unbridled wrath of Anonymous" if it went ahead with the Internet cable cut.

Israel's foreign ministry was not immediately available for comment on the threat, and no reference to the was made in official government statements on Saturday.

Israel has been pressing an intense aerial assault over the coastal Palestinian enclave as militants from the ruling Hamas movement and other groups have fired hundreds of rockets over the border.

The intensifying stand-off has also played out over the Internet.

Militants have used such as Twitter to promise new attacks and take credit for specific strikes.

Meanwhile, Israeli defence officials have used to provide real-time warnings about incoming rockets and also make direct threats against Hamas.

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Shootist
3 / 5 (41) Nov 17, 2012
Why all the hate for Israel? They do nothing but protect themselves from that which has every appearance of barbarism.
Noumenon
3 / 5 (44) Nov 17, 2012
Because they're surrounded by uncivilized savages, who even car-bomb each others various religious sects. The state of israel is a reality that these islamist fanatics still don't except. The Palestinians are liars and rogue thugs that can't be trusted , over and over it goes. Plus you have Iran backing more thuggish terrorist groups to constantly cause trouble for them.
teo730
1.6 / 5 (7) Nov 17, 2012
Need it be mentioned that it is a Jewish State? I think it's a bit irrelevant to the rest of the article.
Confederated
2.3 / 5 (15) Nov 17, 2012
This is ridiculous throw these punks in jail.
kochevnik
1.7 / 5 (27) Nov 17, 2012
Hitler was to deport all Jews to Madagascar, but zionists wanted to stake a claim of immense suffering so they could guilt the Anglos into donating the tract of land to be called Israel. The land was chosen for it's strategic value being able to choke off oil at the Suez canal and thereby extort the world. Coinage shows plans for a greater Israel expanded to grab all the important oil fields in the Middle East. Meanwhile zionists helped extract teeth from poor German Jews and hide the gold in Switzerland. The only concern of zionists was to protect their own immense wealth from the ongoing war. Zionists Rothschilds funded development of the ZykonB Prussian Blue gas used to exterminate poor Jews. Israel flies the red mark star of the Rothschilds, who signed the Balfour Declaration putting Israel into existence.
kochevnik
1.5 / 5 (26) Nov 17, 2012
Need it be mentioned that it is a Jewish State? I think it's a bit irrelevant to the rest of the article.
Actually Jews are now a minority in Israel 8-). Warmongering USA empire is the real Zion for zionists.
Pkunk_
2.9 / 5 (22) Nov 17, 2012
Coinage shows plans for a greater Israel expanded to grab all the important oil fields in the Middle East.

The funny thing is the Israeli's didn't actually want a "greater" Israel. 7 Arab states attacked them unprovoked and had their asses kicked within 6 days which created the present "occupied" territories.
Also it is easy for armchair commenters in Europe/USA who have never lived near the Arabs to blame everything on the "zionists" without taking into account the difficult environment the Israeli's are surviving in.
kochevnik
1.9 / 5 (26) Nov 17, 2012
What's wrong Noumenon? Can't handle facts? Can't rebut so you flaingly attempt to digg down posts, even though there is no such feature on Physorg LOL!!! How your jackboots fitting today?

"Our Torah, in Tractate Ksubos, folio 111, specifies that the Creator, blessed be He, swore the Jews not to occupy the Holy Land by force, even if it appears that they have the force to do so; and not rebel against the Nations. And the Creator warned that if His oath be desecrated, Jewish flesh would be "open property", like the animals in the forest!! These are words of our Torah"
kochevnik
1.6 / 5 (28) Nov 17, 2012
Coinage shows plans for a greater Israel expanded to grab all the important oil fields in the Middle East.

The funny thing is the Israeli's didn't actually want a "greater" Israel. 7 Arab states attacked them unprovoked and had their asses kicked within 6 days which created the present "occupied" territories.
LOL because you read that in Time magazine or some other MSM schlock. So then why do I have the coinage showing Israel extending to the Caspian sea and to Egypt? http://metaexiste...coin.jpg Russians know what your USAID is and they hired Russians to make multimedia presentation about their Caspian Pipeline overseen by the neokhan Dick Cheney that would be under zionist ownership. Yet one of the reasons you had your Iraq war failure.

But keep drinking the kool-aide.
ryggesogn2
2.8 / 5 (35) Nov 17, 2012
Need it be mentioned that it is a Jewish State? I think it's a bit irrelevant to the rest of the article.

And they are democracy with citizens who are not Jewish.
Can't say that about Saudi Arabia, a muslim state.
ryggesogn2
2.9 / 5 (35) Nov 17, 2012
Will Palestinians ever get tired of being the pawns of the other Muslim Arabs?

TheGhostofOtto1923
2.6 / 5 (39) Nov 17, 2012
This is like pulling the tigers tail isnt it? Israel is at war. Mossad doesnt need masks. They took down irans nukes and who knows what else.

Can you make computers explode remotely? Too gauche perhaps?
So then why do I have the coinage showing Israel extending to the Caspian sea and to Egypt?
Tourists and rubes love that schlock.

'Und Morgen die ganze Welt.'
Sean_W
2.2 / 5 (17) Nov 17, 2012
NB: "Online activist group Anonymous" S/B "Terrorist group/extortion racket Anonymous"
Duude
2.5 / 5 (24) Nov 17, 2012
Online activist group Anonymous is just another anti-semitic Nazi group. Hamas had been bombarding Israeli towns with rocket fire for days before Israel fired back. The right to defend oneself can not be infringed.
obama_socks
1.2 / 5 (19) Nov 17, 2012
'Und Morgen die ganze Welt.'
Blotto

Blotto loves to say something in German at every opportunity... Otto Skorzeny, the Nazi bastard whom Blotto names himself after in his TheGhostofOtto1932 profile, was Polish, and whose family moved to Austria from Poland. Blotto lives to deceive, right Blotto?

Blotto's papa was most likely a German Jew; that's why Blotto hates Jews so much. But I asked Blotto in another thread why would he name himself after a murdering Nazi bastard who was also responsible for the killing of Jews...and Blotto never answered my question. Will you give us an answer now, eh Blotto?

BTW...we noticed that you have a new sock puppet and it seems that you are attempting to make people think it is ME. But it's definitely YOU, Blotto, and everyone with any intelligence knows it also.
:))

Estevan57
2.9 / 5 (50) Nov 17, 2012
The coin in question is a Ten Agorot coin, which is a REPLICA of a coin issued by Mattathias Antigonus (37-40 B.C.E.).

The coinage of Israel is all based on ancient coins or motifs.

http://judaism.ab...oins.htm

It will be interesting to see how many Anon. punks are arrested in the next few months.
Estevan57
2.5 / 5 (50) Nov 17, 2012
Otto leckt seiner toten Mutter rauchigen Geruch Genitalien.
obama_socks
1.7 / 5 (24) Nov 17, 2012
So what does BHObama and Hillary Clinton intend to do about this new war between Palestinians and Israel? Obama doesn't stand with Israel and he evidently doesn't want to hurt the feelings of Muslims...so what will be the outcome? Will he only do something about it when the nuclear ICBMs and short range missiles start flying? It's apparent now that the U.N. security council is totally ineffective, even a little complacent as to these events.
Strange that the majority of Jews in Florida voted for Obama; probably also Jews in New York, California and other states. Surely, at least SOME of them must have noticed how Obama treated Netanyahu insultingly. Secular Jews in America have voted for Democrats for decades, and especially for Libtards because Jews believe that they are performing a "mitzvah" or good deed, as in helping the poor and downtrodden by doing so. I would like to see American Jews go to Israel to fight Hamas and give up their cushy and prosperous lives in the U.S.
kochevnik
1.4 / 5 (20) Nov 17, 2012
I would like to see American Jews go to Israel to fight Hamas and give up their cushy and prosperous lives in the U.S.
Many of the Israelis are coming to USA. Specifically Los Angeles it seems. Soon Palestinians will be able to reclaim lands forfeited by the UK much as the US will forfeit it's land to Mexicans. To what end only time will tell.
VendicarD
1.9 / 5 (18) Nov 17, 2012
The time has come to eradicate the Israeli state.
Bookbinder
2.1 / 5 (14) Nov 17, 2012
Hooray for the Hackers attacking the monsters IMHO.
obama_socks
1.7 / 5 (22) Nov 17, 2012
Seems to be some question as to how and why Hamas proceeded to fire rockets at Israel. A 13 yr old boy was killed by Israeli soldiers according to a report.
http://forums.abo...id=15341
Caliban
2.3 / 5 (9) Nov 17, 2012
Otto leckt seiner toten Mutter rauchigen Geruch Genitalien.


That was unkind.

It's true that we have a good old time with our freewheelin' ridicule and sarcasm here --and, I think most commenters here are more or less ok with that-- but, you'll want to draw the line before venturing into that territory again.

Just sayin'.

Caliban
2.1 / 5 (14) Nov 17, 2012

Unfortunately, the good ol' USA is pretty much locked into the role of aidor and abettor with regards to Israel. Which pisses me off, because I didn't agree to its illegal creation to begin with, but am now supporting it with a portion of my taxes.

What my taxes should be going toward is the compelled transformation of Irael to a Pluralist State with equal standing for all citizens, be they Jew, Christian, Muslim or Other.

If I lived in the Occupied Territories, I'd be sending rockets over the goddam fence, too --I find it sickening that so many here ignore the fact that Israel --as a matter of Policy and Practice-- have the clamps on these people both inside and out of the O.T., and it is condoned simply because of religious prejudice, Hawkish inertia, and perceived strategic/economic advantage in it remaining so.

As long as Israel remains essentially an exclusively Jewish state, the very real threat of a regional Armageddon will remain active, and eventually --Live.
obama_socks
2.3 / 5 (25) Nov 17, 2012
I would like to see American Jews go to Israel to fight Hamas and give up their cushy and prosperous lives in the U.S.
Many of the Israelis are coming to USA. Specifically Los Angeles it seems. Soon Palestinians will be able to reclaim lands forfeited by the UK much as the US will forfeit it's land to Mexicans. To what end only time will tell.
-koch What makes you think that the U.S, will forfeit our land to Mexico? The U.S. is a very diverse country...we have ethnic Mexican-Americans living here who are American citizens as much as their ancestors were after living on our side of the border for centuries. They are American through and through...not like the illegal aliens. In fact, most of them actually RESENT the illegals coming here and rocking the boat. Maybe you think that just because they're ethnically the same, that Mex.-Americans want open borders so that illegals can invade and destroy the good life they have here? They also don"t like trouble.
ScooterG
2.6 / 5 (33) Nov 17, 2012
"Arab states attacked them unprovoked and had their asses kicked within 6 days which created the present "occupied" territories."

Instead of a 6-day war, Israel should've made it a 6-year war. Had they bombed Egypt, Syria, and all the rest back to the stone age in `67, we wouldn't be having this problem now.

That's the problem with fighting a "limited" war - the fundamental issues are never resolved. All we have to do is look at history and how WWII was ended - a "no holes barred" ass kickin'.

Israel needs to not only kill the combatants, but also kill their friends, their children, their parents, their chickens, their goats - everything. Then go find anonymous and kill them too.

When war is fought to win, problems get resolved. But war is Hell - always has been, always will be.
ScooterG
2.6 / 5 (35) Nov 17, 2012
So what does BHObama and Hillary Clinton intend to do about this new war between Palestinians and Israel?


From Foxnews.com: "The White House says it believes Israel "has the right to defend itself" against attack and that the Israelis will make their own decisions about their "military tactics and operations.""

This sounds all fine and dandy, but we all know Obama would rather climb a tree and lie to us as to stand on the ground and tell the truth.
obama_socks
1.6 / 5 (25) Nov 17, 2012
Personally, I think it's good for the state of Israel to exist and, in a religious sense, I think that Muslims of the middle East also know (subconsciously). that the "people of the Bible" must not be destroyed.
Palestinians want the Jews out of Israel. Why? Think about the secularism that is so prevalent in day-to-day Jewish life in Israel. A people who cling to a religion and claim to be chosen by God, and yet, are as far removed from the Ten Commandments as any irreligious group, will be looked upon as impostors who have no right to live in the "land of Abraham and Sarah".
Ishmael, having been fathered by Abraham makes Abraham a patriarch of Islamists, and Islamists take their religion VERY seriously. Not so the Jews, except for the Hassidim and other very religious Jewish sects. It is for this reason, mainly, that Palestinians most likely wonder at how secular and seemingly irreligious or unreligious Jews appear to them. How can people of the Bible behave counter to Bible dogma?
cantdrive85
2.4 / 5 (25) Nov 17, 2012
The hackers are going after them because the isrealis initiated this round of violence.
OBAMA! got his bargain, they waited until after the election to start WWIII, I just wonder what he had to give up in return. American soldiers?
obama_socks
1.8 / 5 (26) Nov 17, 2012
@ScooterG
Yes...as long as conventional weapons are used by the Israelis and the Palestinians, they can have their little war and it should not matter to us. We have our own problems right now.
But, if there is any threat of nuclear weapons being used, then WE will be drawn into it, as well as all of Europe and Russia. We cannot allow the use of nuclear weapons by any country, because if even one is used, then all hell breaks loose and mankind will die out.
IMO, both Palestinians and Israelis are expendable. If they can't or won't get along, then other countries will have to step in and occupy Gaza and Israel. It's like breaking up a fight in a schoolyard. There will be no winner...it will only be a draw.
Hopefully, if Israel tries to use nuclear weapons, etc., Obama will have the guts to head it off before it escalates. But we shall see.
ryggesogn2
2.8 / 5 (32) Nov 17, 2012
Cali is true to form. Supporting socialist tyrants over a democracy.
Those 'poor' Palestinians. Why won't their fellow Muslims let them live in there countries.
Cali, take a good look at the Palestinians, that is the reward for hate and envy.

CapitalismPrevails
2.8 / 5 (26) Nov 17, 2012
Will the media ever give Israel a break? Israel was fired upon but their counter measures weren't able to intercept every missile and Israelis died. When something like that happens, they have to respond or else the aggressor will just get more aggressive.
Caliban
1.9 / 5 (14) Nov 17, 2012
Cali is true to form. Supporting socialist tyrants over a democracy.
Those 'poor' Palestinians. Why won't their fellow Muslims let them live in there countries.
Cali, take a good look at the Palestinians, that is the reward for hate and envy.



Yes, Swenson, and every time I read one of your posts, my first impulse is to be charitable and say to myself that "This is the result of child Swenson being dropped on the head at least one too many times".

Call me an Idealist.

ScooterG
2.5 / 5 (30) Nov 17, 2012
@ obama_socks I say drop the reigns and give Israel it's head (that's horsemanship talk). Let the IDF do what they think is best, including nuclear weapon use. Screw it...a short war with nukes or a long, drawn-out affair with conventional weapons - the same number of people die either way.

Human nature being what it is, it's still a cruel world governed by the use of brute force - accept it, prepare for it, be tougher and more ruthless than the other guy. As Lt. Speirs said in Band of Brothers "without mercy, without compassion, without remorse...all war depends on it".
obama_socks
1.7 / 5 (23) Nov 17, 2012
@ScooterG
No. Allowing the use of nuclear weapons is suicide for everyone...not just Hamas and Israelis. The winds blow into surrounding countries. Think Radiation Sickness before you go off on a tangent. Why would you want the innocent to suffer in places far away from the fighting and the mushroom clouds? If Palestinians and Jews want to kill each other, that's their problem, not ours. Neither side is innocent of wrongdoing, but I'm not about to go into all the details on that. Conventional weapons will allow them to kill each other off without hurting the rest of the world.
I don't know about you, but I have no intention of getting radiation sickness or endure a nuclear winter because of the stupidity of a bunch of people on both sides who happen to have a superiority complex over each other.
jdw
2.8 / 5 (18) Nov 18, 2012
The Israelis took that small plot of ground in the middle of an overworked land, surrounded by a disheveled backwards culture that's barely post-medieval, and created a veritable oasis. Unfortunately, the Islamic faith isn't progressive, and needs a reformation to be able to correctly function in this modern world. Lacking the impetus to reform, they are and will forever be unable to coexist with any other religion, be it Jewish, Catholic, Christian Hindu or What Have You.

Let's continue to support Israel, because we have much more in common with them than with their backwards enemies.

Israel should make a proclamation to the Muslim world: if Iran or any other nation attacks her with nuclear weapons, then Mecca and Medina will be turned into pools of glass, and become uninhabitable for at least a century. Call that doctrine "Mutual Assured Destruction".

Why not? It worked so well for the USA and the USSR for all these decades.
Oxensraiser?
2 / 5 (14) Nov 18, 2012
Israel needs to not only kill the combatants, but also kill their friends, their children, their parents, their chickens, their goats - everything. Then go find anonymous and kill them too. When war is fought to win, problems get resolved. But war is Hell - always has been, always will be.

Read more at: http://phys.org/n...html#jCp

I understand where you are coming from Scooter. But Anonymous is something new in the world. They told NATO, "Come at me bro" and have now told another major world power to fcuk off. And because of the nature of the beast it cant be defeated in a head on fight, no matter how many are rounded up and imprisoned/executed. Its not something you can fight like that. Its a super predator in the meme ecosystem. And for good or bad its here to stay.
Noumenon
2.8 / 5 (31) Nov 18, 2012
Israel should make a proclamation to the Muslim world: if Iran or any other nation attacks her with nuclear weapons, then Mecca and Medina will be turned into pools of glass, and become uninhabitable for at least a century. Call that doctrine "Mutual Assured Destruction". Why not? It worked so well for the USA and the USSR for all these decades.


It's has worked so far, yes, but for Rational countries. Iran is not Rational. They're emotionally and hate driven religious fanatical cavemen. They must not be allowed to get nukes in the first place.

It's not just Israel that don't trust them with nukes, the Arabs naturally don't either. If Saddam wasn't taken out the nuclear race between Iran and Iraq would have been on, and much harder to contain.
ryggesogn2
2.8 / 5 (26) Nov 18, 2012
It's not just Israel that don't trust them with nukes, the Arabs naturally don't either.

To the Arabs, Iranians are Persian first.
ryggesogn2
2.8 / 5 (25) Nov 18, 2012
Cali is true to form. Supporting socialist tyrants over a democracy.
Those 'poor' Palestinians. Why won't their fellow Muslims let them live in there countries.
Cali, take a good look at the Palestinians, that is the reward for hate and envy.



Yes, Swenson, and every time I read one of your posts, my first impulse is to be charitable and say to myself that "This is the result of child Swenson being dropped on the head at least one too many times".

Call me an Idealist.


I did call you an idealistic socialist did I not?
ryggesogn2
2.8 / 5 (24) Nov 18, 2012
"Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Wednesday denounced Hamas leaders as "traitors," blaming them for planning their "bloody coup" in Gaza while participating in a unity government. "
http://edition.cn...dex.html

Where was the outcry against Hamas?
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.1 / 5 (36) Nov 18, 2012
To the Arabs, Iranians are Persian first.
No, to sunnis they are Shiite first.

"Although Iran is a predominately Shia Muslim country and the Muslim Brotherhood is Sunni in doctrine, Olga Davidson and Mohammad Mahallati claim the Brotherhood has had influence among Shia in Iran."

-And the brotherhood is expressing support for Hamas. Ecumenicism is a step in the reestablishment of the caliphate yes?

"Islamic governments must be... eventually unified in a Caliphate. The Muslim Brotherhood's goal, as stated by Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna was to reclaim Islam's manifest destiny, an empire, stretching from Spain to Indonesia."

-Conciliation is only a few gens before exploding pops cause race war. But that isnt on middle eastern minds at the moment - they have been given a common enemy.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.2 / 5 (34) Nov 18, 2012
BTW...we noticed that you have a new sock puppet and it seems that you are attempting to make people think it is ME. But it's definitely YOU, Blotto, and everyone with any intelligence knows it also.
Uh no your bfs posts are of the same caliber as those gay porn links which got you both banned as pussytard. As you were both banned as pirouette and ritchieboy.

You know, the same caliber as this
Otto leckt seiner toten Mutter rauchigen Geruch Genitalien
-which is yet more indication that you all post from the same dirty cave, and share the same dirty bed.
Jotaf
2.6 / 5 (5) Nov 18, 2012
ScooterG: Advocating genocide? Really? I reported your post to the PhysOrg moderators.
Noumenon
2.6 / 5 (27) Nov 18, 2012
ScooterG: Advocating genocide? Really? I reported your post to the PhysOrg moderators.


I think you are taking it too literally. I read it as qualifying the extent in which war should be fought, but I could be wrong.

p.s. @ obama_socks,... I don't think that was ghostofotto. It was likely FH, as it matched its maturity level. The question is, is ghostofotto, lite, or is lite FH also?
ScooterG
2.4 / 5 (27) Nov 18, 2012
ScooterG: Advocating genocide? Really? I reported your post to the PhysOrg moderators.


I'm advocating self defense.

In war, a person is either a friend or an enemy. If you feed the enemy, you too are enemy. If you clothe the enemy, you too are enemy. If you house the enemy, you too are enemy. There are no "innocents".

If the Palestinian populace allows rocket launchers to operate in their midst, they should all expect to die. If Palestinian children die in the process, it is the result of poor decisions on the part of Palestinian adults.
ryggesogn2
2.9 / 5 (27) Nov 18, 2012
ScooterG: Advocating genocide? Really? I reported your post to the PhysOrg moderators.

The 'moderators' don't seem to opposed to killing all Jews.

And don't forget, it is Hamas that is now running Gaza. Who is Hamas? Are they the elected representatives of Palestinians?
ScooterG
2.3 / 5 (22) Nov 18, 2012
I understand where you are coming from Scooter. But Anonymous is something new in the world. They told NATO, "Come at me bro" and have now told another major world power to fcuk off. And because of the nature of the beast it cant be defeated in a head on fight, no matter how many are rounded up and imprisoned/executed. Its not something you can fight like that. Its a super predator in the meme ecosystem. And for good or bad its here to stay.


So what you're saying is that deterrence does not work? I would disagree. The thought of prison time or death has prevented many crimes.

Make a harsh example of several of these guys and watch their attitudes change.
ryggesogn2
2.8 / 5 (25) Nov 18, 2012
If Palestinian children die in the process, it is the result of poor decisions on the part of Palestinian adults.

Golda Meir:
""Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." (Statement to the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., 1957)

"When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons." (Statement at a Press Conference in London, 1969)"
VendicarD
2.8 / 5 (9) Nov 18, 2012
Yes. It was called theft.

"The Israelis took that small plot of ground in the middle of an overworked land, surrounded by a disheveled backwards culture that's barely post-medieval" - IDW

The Israeli campaign of terror and Murder against the palestinian people has long since turned to a campaign of genocide.

The Israeli's learned their tactics from the NAZI's.
VendicarD
2.1 / 5 (10) Nov 18, 2012
Peace will come when the murderous filth that is the state of Israel is wiped off the face of the earth, along with it's thieving, Zionist supporters.

"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."
ryggesogn2
2.8 / 5 (25) Nov 18, 2012
"Consequently, at Sinai the Jewish nation became the target for the hatred of those whose strongest drive is to liberate mankind from the shackles of conscience and morality."
http://www.simple...tism.htm

I think this is the core reason for hatred of the Jews.
Jewish hatred is the first requirement for a socialist as socialism cannot tolerate the absolute morality of God. Especially the commandment not to steal or covet.
VINDOC
2.1 / 5 (11) Nov 18, 2012
When the Muslims love their child more then they hate the Jews there will be peace. I see 1930 Germany all over again. Most of the hate is from Hollywood. From the likes of Spielberg, Streisand, they are ignorant that they will not be the scapegoats next. I remember the Jews who turned their heads as their countrymen died. We shall see.
Caliban
1.8 / 5 (5) Nov 19, 2012
Yes, Swenson, and every time I read one of your posts, my first impulse is to be charitable and say to myself that "This is the result of child Swenson being dropped on the head at least one too many times".

Call me an Idealist.


I did call you an idealistic socialist did I not?


Nah -not in this thread.

But I'm not surprised by your confusion, since you continually spam this site with your repetitive, blathering drivel, hoping that someone will mistake you for being relevant.

How sad for you.

Feldagast
2.3 / 5 (12) Nov 19, 2012
Maybe if they would stop shooting rockets into Israel, the Israelis would stop attacking them.
Caliban
1.8 / 5 (10) Nov 19, 2012
There will be no nuclear exchange in the region.
It's amusing to see just how many of you have been taken in by the Hawkish elements of the Media and a few Politicians that are always banging the drum of National Security.

The Leaders of neither Israel nor any of the Arab nations are going to engage in the use of nuclear weapons, because they enjoy their vices far more than the blandishments of Paradise, just like most of the other people on this palnet.

I will say it again --there will be no peace until Israel is compelled to form a pluralist state with the Palestinians, with equal rights and access to resources for all.

Caliban
2 / 5 (11) Nov 19, 2012
Maybe if they would stop shooting rockets into Israel, the Israelis would stop attacking them.


Perhaps.

Perhaps if the Israelis stopped restricting or denying the Palestinian's access to food, water, medical care, work and all the other things that people need in order to live normal, peaceful lives --then maybe Hamas, et al would stop shooting rockets into Israel.

roboferret
5 / 5 (3) Nov 19, 2012
I think this XKCD comic is a good reminder of what actually happened here:
http://xkcd.com/932/
obama_socks
1.8 / 5 (20) Nov 19, 2012
Otto leckt seiner toten Mutter rauchigen Geruch Genitalien.


That was unkind.

It's true that we have a good old time with our freewheelin' ridicule and sarcasm here --and, I think most commenters here are more or less ok with that-- but, you'll want to draw the line before venturing into that territory again.

Just sayin'.

-Caliban

Caliban is beginning to sound more like the Taliban with such censuring. I notice that you don't have any problem with any of the nastiness that VendicarD spews nor any of the idiotic accusations, statements and vicious insults that TheGhostofOtto1923 and any of his sock puppets make.
If you approve of "freewheelin' ridicule and sarcasm" from some commenters, then why are you so undemocratic as to attempt to suppress it in others? Playing favorites? Draw the line indeed!! Who gave you the right to order people around. I hope that Estevan57 continues with his own "freewheelin' ridicule and sarcasm" whenever he feels it is warranted.

obama_socks
1.9 / 5 (22) Nov 19, 2012


p.s. @ obama_socks,... I don't think that was ghostofotto. It was likely FH, as it matched its maturity level. The question is, is ghostofotto, lite, or is lite FH also?
-Noumenon

FH IS Blotto aka theghostofotto1923 aka perhaps 30 or more other sock puppet personas. Many of us have noticed through the years that Blotto is very clever. Similar to an actor changing his enunciation, diction and appearance for each role he plays, Blotto changes into different puppets to get the desired reaction from his "audience", i.e., other commenters. He has admitted to us already in a past thread that he MOSTLY uses puppets with the name Otto in them. He said that he does this because "it's fun". Only Blotto would remember enough of my posts to quote me almost word for word regarding topics I commented on. Blotto IS also lite, and he votes himself up AND down with that name. But he gives himself away constantly and we all recognize his "patterns". I see you have been fooled by him.
kochevnik
1.3 / 5 (13) Nov 19, 2012
ScooterG: Advocating genocide? Really? I reported your post to the PhysOrg moderators.


I'm advocating self defense.
No you're advocating the side with the biggest media and public relations machine and bankster bribe network, because you are willfully retarded like most rapethuglicans.
Maybe if they would stop shooting rockets into Israel, the Israelis would stop attacking them.
Maybe if you stopped invading little sovereign nations and installing despots in place of democracy, peace would take root in the world.
obama_socks
1.7 / 5 (19) Nov 19, 2012
Yes. It was called theft.

"The Israelis took that small plot of ground in the middle of an overworked land, surrounded by a disheveled backwards culture that's barely post-medieval" -.......

The Israeli's learned their tactics from the NAZI's.
-VendicarD

Unfortunately, I must agree with your last sentence. The Israeli people mostly came out of Europe and their experiences with Nazi terror taught them how unwise it is to put your trust in those who may turn against you in the future. Jews from Europe banded together in Israel in communal living "kibbutzim" as not only for mutual protection, but also to provide food and other necessities. The initial treatment of Palestinians by the new Israelis was a form of terrorism. Instead of forming a good relationship with Palestinians, Jews drove them from their homes and properties, forcing them to remove to other countries. Forced expatriation was a Nazi tactic and the new Israelis did just that.
obama_socks
1.7 / 5 (17) Nov 19, 2012
I must say that, in the long run, the European Jews of Israel have reaped what they have sown. They had applied the wrong tactics to a people who had been living in Gaza AND Israel for thousands of years - the descendants of the Philistines. Perhaps it was not just the differences in religion that motivated the new Jewish Israelis to treat the brown people of Gaza the way they did, it may have also been a racial divide, as the Jews coming out of Europe were White. Palestinians look different, behave differently and think differently due to their belief in the Koran.
It could be said that trust for your neighbor under those circumstances could become nonexistent, even long before they attack you and your community personally. It is for such reasons that societies differing in culture, race, etc. tend to ghettoize themselves, responding to an innate desire to be with one's own kind and to afford mutual protection from unknown elements.
Is it good behavior and mindset? It depends.
Tausch
1.8 / 5 (10) Nov 19, 2012
All of you have underestimated both sides.
You must consider that both sides have, and are engaged, in false flag events.

How naive are all of you?
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.3 / 5 (35) Nov 19, 2012
"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."
Islamists love death more than life and the purpose of life they say, is to die for Allah. This goes for their families which is why they fight surrounded by them.
he MOSTLY uses puppets with the name Otto in them. He said that he does this because "it's fun".
No because it is honest, a concept you are not familiar with.
Only Blotto would remember enough of my posts to quote me almost word for word regarding topics I commented on.
I do remember such inane concepts as 'zero growth requires zero birth' because it proves that you are not the engineer you say you are. You are also not the nurse, or sorghum farmer, or NASA worker that you have claimed to be. Your ideas demonstrate this and they are worth repeating to demonstrate your character.

Just look at the shitstorm you posted above. 'White jews' and 'brown philistines'. This is a bigot pretending not to be.
ryggesogn2
2.7 / 5 (27) Nov 19, 2012
All of you have underestimated both sides.
You must consider that both sides have, and are engaged, in false flag events.

How naive are all of you?

There are more than two sides involved. Gaza is controlled by Hamas, not the Palestinians.

No you're advocating the side with the biggest media and public relations machine

You mean the Arab muslims? They have persuaded many 'liberals' in West, via major 'liberal' 'news' organizations, to support mis-treatment of women and hatred of Jews.
ryggesogn2
2.7 / 5 (26) Nov 19, 2012
Yes, Swenson, and every time I read one of your posts, my first impulse is to be charitable and say to myself that "This is the result of child Swenson being dropped on the head at least one too many times".

Call me an Idealist.


I did call you an idealistic socialist did I not?


Nah -not in this thread.

But I'm not surprised by your confusion, since you continually spam this site with your repetitive, blathering drivel, hoping that someone will mistake you for being relevant.

How sad for you.


My bad. How can anyone apply rationality to the irrational hatred, greed and envy of socialists?
ryggesogn2
2.6 / 5 (27) Nov 19, 2012
"If you don't understand the extremism of the enemy, you don't understand the enemy. And if you don't understand the enemy, you have no idea of what to do in response. This is precisely the problem of the Western policy toward the Middle East and revolutionary Islamism."
"there is zero support in the West for bringing down Hamas. President Barack Obama helped install a pro-Hamas regime in Egypt. And the man who never pressured Abbas pressured Israel to reduce sanctions on the Gaza Strip, thus helping Hamas remain in power so it can continue firing rockets at Israel."
"For example, there is a readiness to believe that the assassination of a U.S. ambassador in Benghazi (and on September 11 to boot!) is the result of anger over a video rather than a concerted campaign to fundamentally transform Libya and the Middle East."
http://pjmedia.co...age=true

ScooterG
2.5 / 5 (27) Nov 19, 2012
No you're advocating the side with the biggest media and public relations machine and bankster bribe network, because you are willfully retarded like most rapethuglicans.


Show me a muzzie with peace in his heart and maybe your words will mean something.

The Israel/Gaza argument has been ongoing for decades now, and by people much more knowledgable in the subject than you and I. It's nothing but a Mexican stand-off, no further along now than it ever was.

Israel smacked the middle east in `69 but didn't finish the job. Israel had Arafat and the PLO knee-deep in the ocean and didn't finish the job. Israel rolled thru Gaza in 2009(?) and didn't finish the job.

Israel kicked Syria's azz in `82 but didn't finish the job - Israel is now being shelled again.

The time for talk is over. It's time to finish the job.
Modernmystic
1.5 / 5 (15) Nov 19, 2012
There are two ways out of this.

Either both sides put down their irrational beliefs in the adult version of Santa Claus and realize that there are no differences between them worth killing over...

Or we keep out big noses out of it and let someone win the war and dominate the other side to the extent that they are completely demoralized and lose the will to fight.

I see no third option, and given the history of mankind I know which is more likely...
obama_socks
1.6 / 5 (19) Nov 19, 2012
he MOSTLY uses puppets with the name Otto in them. He said that he does this because "it's fun".
No because it is honest, a concept you are not familiar with.
Only Blotto would remember enough of my posts to quote me almost word for word regarding topics I commented on.
I do remember such inane concepts as 'zero growth requires zero birth' because it proves that you are not the engineer you say you are. You are also not the nurse, or sorghum farmer, or NASA worker that you have claimed to be. Your ideas demonstrate this and they are worth repeating to demonstrate your character.

Just look at the shitstorm you posted above. 'White jews' and 'brown philistines'. This is a bigot pretending not to be. -Blotto

The Palestinians are brown in color, while the European Jews in Israel are White. That is obviously a fact that is lost on Blotto. You can call me a bigot, racist but it still doesn't alter the fact: Palestinians are brown; Israeli Jews from Europe are White
Modernmystic
2.1 / 5 (15) Nov 19, 2012
This is a bigot pretending not to be.


Does he really pretend not to be? I'm asking honestly here, because if he is it's not apparent in the least...not the slightest tiniest little bit. I always assumed he had strongly biased views, was unapologetic about them, and very comfortable with that.
obama_socks
1.7 / 5 (18) Nov 19, 2012
Blotto thinks that "population zero growth" still allows the birth of human newborns. Blotto seems to suggest that "zero population growth" does not mean no more people born along with the natural attrition of people dying. It's obvious that TheGhostofOtto1923 aka FrankHerbertard STILL has trouble comprehending such easy concepts as "ZERO GROWTH".
Let me explain once again to Blotto: ZERO Population Growth REQUIRES a DIMINISHING of population over a period of time. It means that NO babies are allowed to be born (contraceptive use; abortion; post-birth murder by plunging scissors into the infant's brain outside or within the birth canal).
As people die and are not replaced by healthy newborn children, eventually there would be no more population and mankind dies out.
Can you wrap your pointy head around that, Blotto?
Apparently, Blotto's mama wasn't aware of contraceptives and abortion; she would've made the world a better place by not shitting Blotto out her ass.
Tausch
1 / 5 (7) Nov 19, 2012
[... there are no differences between them worth killing over... - MM]

This have been 'circumvented' since the dawn of humankind.
If we find no solution nature has one: extinction.
(Asserted is a 99.9% extinction rate:
"... it is estimated that 99.9% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct."
http://en.wikiped...tinction

geokstr
2.6 / 5 (23) Nov 19, 2012
ScooterG: Advocating genocide? Really? I reported your post to the PhysOrg moderators.

Really?

He was describing the realities of war, not advocating genocide.

If you find his comments repulsive enough to report him, then I guess you must have reported numerous comments from Vendie, who often calls for the extermination of entire groups of people, whose only crime is to have political opinions different than his. His idols, Josef, Adolph and Mao, already used his favorite tactics in this regard.

You haven't reported him too? Why am I not surprised?
obama_socks
1.7 / 5 (17) Nov 19, 2012
This is a bigot pretending not to be.


Does he really pretend not to be? I'm asking honestly here, because if he is it's not apparent in the least...not the slightest tiniest little bit. I always assumed he had strongly biased views, was unapologetic about them, and very comfortable with that.

-ModernMystic

"You are also not the nurse, or sorghum farmer, or NASA worker that you have claimed to be." -Blotto

And I have NEVER claimed to be a nurse, sorghum farmer, or NASA worker, or anything else that Theghostofotto1923/Frankherbertard/lite, et al claims that I claimed to be. I mentioned "mission control" once, and Blotto assumed that I am a NASA worker. He also went on to say that I was a custodian at NASA and other proofs of his idiocy. I mentioned once that I have degrees in Engineering, so he talks about choochoo trains or whatever his psychotic mind can dream up.

I believe that this website's moderators keeps Blotto and his sock puppets b/c he amuses them.

obama_socks
1.7 / 5 (18) Nov 19, 2012
Point of fact: Theghostofotto1923 and his sock puppets always manage to derail the topic commented on in every thread with his managing to sneak in blatantly anything that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of the discussion. He has been doing this "off-topic" derailment for years since he began posting his crap in this website in his present name, as well as on his previous sock puppets' names.

For the record: I have only ONE other user name which is my PRIMARY name, and that is the one that I use to comment in threads dealing with Engineering topics. I have always received 5 ratings in that name.
I have only used THIS name to comment on religion and politics and some light science, and with this name only.

In my first posts on this name, I had the misfortune to be in the same thread as Pussycateyes. Because I had registered recently at that time, and because Blotto had PCE banned and she apparently could no longer post, Blotto began his claim that I was PCE. He has (contd)
obama_socks
1.7 / 5 (20) Nov 19, 2012
(contd)
continued his hateful lies and off-topic comments regarding me, and he has done the same to others who are also innocent of Blotto's ridiculous claims.
TheghostofOttoSkorzeny (Blotto) cannot be denied the attention he gets from his fellow whackos, such as VendicarD, Caliban the Taliban, kochevnik (unfortunately) and maybe a few more who admire Blotto's insanity and inanities.

Blotto denies that Palestinians are brown in color and that European Jews are White; however, he has NO problem with Blacks being referred to as Black in color. Strange, isn't it.
When TheGhostofotto1923's (et al) changes into FrankHerbert, he feels free to call Black people "Niggah" or some other variation. This means Blotto is a bigot and racist who needs to change first to another of his personas before he dares to show off his racism and bigotry.
But Blotto never hesitates to downbeat the Jews and Christians because of their religion. We have overwhelming evidence of all these facts.
obama_socks
1.8 / 5 (16) Nov 19, 2012
All of you have underestimated both sides.
You must consider that both sides have, and are engaged, in false flag events.

How naive are all of you?
-Tausch

It was good and right for the Israelis to take out the top Hamas leader. However, it is unclear which was the real catalyst for Palestinians bombing Israel...whether it was the killing of the Hamas leader...or it was the killing of the 13 year old boy, shot from an Israeli helicopter.
But Israeli citizens have died also and were just as innocent as the boy.
As long as this war between Jew and Muslim is contained and not widens into other countries in the middle East, it will be a fair fight. But if Egypt gets into it, the possibility that other countries will also get involved will tilt the odds toward Hamas. At that time, if it happens, it ceases to be a fair fight, and the U.S. and Russia would need to send troops to the middle East to end the conflict. Hopefully, the Russians will be force of good and not biased.
Tausch
1.4 / 5 (9) Nov 19, 2012
For example:
How do you time an escalation of violence to dovetail to any election?
There are two sides to this. The rest of world sides as well (invests and sway outcomes) or stand aside.

... it is unclear which was the real catalyst for Palestinians bombing Israel... OS


A false flag event exposed sheds light on 'real catalysts'.
Anyone, anywhere, at any time can escalate a conflict.
Or provide an excuse so the rest of the world is free...
to speculate.

TheGhostofOtto1923
2.3 / 5 (35) Nov 19, 2012
This is a bigot pretending not to be.


Does he really pretend not to be? I'm asking honestly here, because if he is it's not apparent in the least...not the slightest tiniest little bit. I always assumed he had strongly biased views, was unapologetic about them, and very comfortable with that.
So I suppose according to you and the lying dimwit, that its ok to refer to people as brown and yellow and red, and to label all moslems as
A people who cling to a religion and claim to be chosen by God, and yet, are as far removed from the Ten Commandments as any irreligious group
-when most people know that islam believes the bible is a sacred book?
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.2 / 5 (36) Nov 19, 2012
Heres another cherry:
Let me explain once again to Blotto: ZERO Population Growth REQUIRES a DIMINISHING of population over a period of time. It means that NO babies are allowed to be born...eventually there would be no more population and mankind dies out.
-So you STILL didnt understand when it was explained to you, in baby speak even, that zero growth means that the number of births EQUALS the number of deaths, and the total number of people as a result STAYS THE SAME.

Here it is the way grownups understand it:

"Zero population growth, sometimes abbreviated ZPG (also called the replacement level of fertility), is a condition of demographic balance where the number of people in a specified population neither grows nor declines, considered as a social aim."

You_Imbecile.

As pirouette you said you came here to learn. That was also a lie. You came here to talk, because you like to talk. And here people cant walk away from you or hang up the phone like they do in real life. Yes?
Pkunk_
1.9 / 5 (13) Nov 19, 2012
@VendicarD blurted out -
Peace will come when the murderous filth that is the state of Israel is wiped off the face of the earth, along with it's thieving, Zionist supporters.

Isn't it amazing how communist VendicarD always chooses the wrong side in any arguement ?
Well don't forget in an Islamic mob rule , the first to die are the non-muslims. And next are all the commies, leftists and other losers who helped bring these Islamic fundamentalists achieve their goals.
When given a rational choice , or the dead-wrong populist one commies like VendicarD will always choose wrong. It's in their nature.
Remember all the leftists supporting the blood thirsty "Al-Shabab" and the Islamic courts in Somalia while they were butchering the "unislamic" ones for playing music or wearing lipstick ? Where are these idiots hiding now that the Al-Shabab are getting thier asses kicked , and their true agenda of a global Islamic "Caliphate" is exposed ?
kochevnik
1.4 / 5 (11) Nov 19, 2012
@VendicarD blurted out -
Peace will come when the murderous filth that is the state of Israel is wiped off the face of the earth, along with it's thieving, Zionist supporters.

Isn't it amazing how communist VendicarD always chooses the wrong side in any arguement ?
How's the weather in Tel Aviv today?
Caliban
1.6 / 5 (7) Nov 19, 2012
Yes, Swenson, and every time I read one of your posts, my first impulse is to be charitable and say to myself that "This is the result of child Swenson being dropped on the head at least one too many times".

Call me an Idealist.


I did call you an idealistic socialist did I not?


Nah -not in this thread.

But I'm not surprised by your confusion, since you continually spam this site with your repetitive, blathering drivel, hoping that someone will mistake you for being relevant.

How sad for you.


My bad. How can anyone apply rationality to the irrational hatred, greed and envy of socialists?


Again, I understand your confusion --but am not surprised by it, due to your "disability", and all.
Estevan57
2.5 / 5 (45) Nov 19, 2012
ObamaSocks - Caliban is right it was unkind, but he doesn't know the extent of the PMs I have been getting from Otto. Otto fears shame and embarrassment more than private words. His manipulation of the comment voting process bears this out.
Caliban
1.8 / 5 (5) Nov 19, 2012
And I've noticed that you knuckleheads have stopped your dimwit dribbling about Obama not stepping up to throw the full support and resources of the US into the ring in aid of our Brothers and Sisters of Israel.

The sheer stupidiosity of any of you trying to advance a PURELY political --and more likely, racist-- claim such as that is nearly incomprehensible, until, naturally, one considers the source.

Israel has, since its criminal foundation, and will continue to have , for the forseeable future, the full active Diplomatic, Economic, and material support of the US, courtesy of The US TAXPAYER.

Why aren't any of you freimarket/Randite/libertarian/RepCons raising an outcry about this?

Filth.

TheGhostofOtto1923
2.1 / 5 (34) Nov 19, 2012
but he doesn't know the extent of the PMs I have been getting from Otto.
What more lies esai? My last was over a month ago, followed by 2 from you:
"Estevan57  11.11.2012 02:14
http://sportsillu...l/...t11
You're still a dumbass Frank.

Estevan57  10.20.2012 02:44
http://college-fo....bites/?
Go ducks!

TheGhostofOtto1923  10.01.2012 09:41
Remind you of anyone you know?
http://health.usn...y-study"

Also:
"I own you."
"You are a pitiful little man"
"So I let my neice downvote you. I don't need to bother. 5 cents a vote, thats all you're worth."(my fav)
"Pussy isn't banned, scrotum"

-You know, typical stalker troll bullshit. And of the 2 of us, which one is the liar esai?
Otto fears shame and embarrassment more than private words.
Well you dont. See my profile page for details.
His manipulation of the comment voting process bears this out.
Hey I notice your sockteam has been hard at work crawling you up to 2.1. Congrats.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.2 / 5 (33) Nov 19, 2012
Israel has, since its criminal foundation, and will continue to have , for the forseeable future, the full active Diplomatic, Economic, and material support of the US, courtesy of The US TAXPAYER.
Come on now caliban, you know full well that without the garrison state and bridgehead Israel, we would all be breathing fallout and fighting in the desert against a united Islamic caliphate empire stretching from Pakistan to the levant. And beyond. EVERYBODY.

You should thank all those religionist expats for dividing the Arab world and setting them against one another. And fighting all those wars which destroyed all that junk soviet hardware.

'I love it when a Plan comes together.' b a barakus
obama_socks
1.5 / 5 (16) Nov 19, 2012
Heres another cherry:
Let me explain once again to Blotto: ZERO Population Growth REQUIRES a DIMINISHING of population over a period of time. It means that NO babies are allowed to be born...eventually there would be no more population and mankind dies out.
-So you STILL didnt understand when it was explained to you, in baby speak even, that zero growth means that the number of births EQUALS the number of deaths, and the total number of people as a result STAYS THE SAME.
-Blotto

blah blah blah ad nauseum
Blotto, you idiot...you NEVER mentioned the death of people to equalize the balance, in that thread. Zero population growth means that for every death that occurs, a new child is born to replace that person; and zero population growth ALSO means both death AND no newborns. In either case, it's ZERO GROWTH.

"As pirouette you said you came here to learn. That was also a lie. You came here to talk, because you like to talk. " -Blotto

I have NEVER said that. Who is he?
obama_socks
1.5 / 5 (16) Nov 19, 2012
ObamaSocks - Caliban is right it was unkind, but he doesn't know the extent of the PMs I have been getting from Otto. Otto fears shame and embarrassment more than private words. His manipulation of the comment voting process bears this out.
-Estevan57

Funny thing is I, too, have received a PM from FrankHerbertard, a sock puppet of TheghostofBlotto1923. I will not open the PM to read it, mainly because I don't want to experience what you experienced with the FILTH that Blotto sent you. Another thing you should know is, that once you open his PMs, he will know in which thread you are in without having to type your name. You should only open PMs from NICE people. Blotto is most definitely NOT nice....nor is he mentally well.

Yes, Blotto has a thing about being downvoted; he absolutely hates finding out that he is not liked...even regarded as being despicable.
I do believe that Bloto is a Jew-hating Jew.
ryggesogn2
2.5 / 5 (24) Nov 19, 2012
full support and resources of the US

And you believe Obama after he blamed a u-tube video for the murder of an ambassador?

Cali, Israel is one major example of who libertarians SHOULD support for two significant reasons. One, they share the fundamental concept that rights are God given, not state given, and two, they are surrounded by Islamic N A Z Is who have attacked the USA so supporting Israel is in the national defense interest of the USA.
obama_socks
1.5 / 5 (16) Nov 19, 2012
This is a bigot pretending not to be.


So I suppose according to you and the lying dimwit, that its ok to refer to people as brown and yellow and red, and to label all moslems as
A people who cling to a religion and claim to be chosen by God, and yet, are as far removed from the Ten Commandments as any irreligious group
-when most people know that islam believes the bible is a sacred book?
-Blotto

Blotto thinks it's an unkind cut to refer to people according to the color of their skin. But he has no problem referring to Blacks as the color black...and referring to them as "niggahs" when he's masquerading as FrankHerbertard.

And here's ANOTHER of Blotto's show of his lack of comprehension. When I said, "A people who cling to a religion and claim to be chosen by God, and yet, are as far removed........", I had been referring to JEWS, NOT MUSLIMS. As usual, BLOTTO IS THE LYING DIMWIT. BLOTTO, YOU FILTHY SPAWN FROM YOUR MOTHER'S ASSHOLE. LEARN TO READ
obama_socks
1.5 / 5 (17) Nov 19, 2012
Muslims were NOT chosen by God, Blotto...only the Jews were chosen, you stinking fat sack of shit.
Oh and BTW, Blotto. How IS WALTRAUD SKORZENY WEISS? Is that ugly bitch really your mother?
obama_socks
1.5 / 5 (16) Nov 19, 2012
full support and resources of the US

And you believe Obama after he blamed a u-tube video for the murder of an ambassador?

Cali, Israel is one major example of who libertarians SHOULD support for two significant reasons. One, they share the fundamental concept that rights are God given, not state given, and two, they are surrounded by Islamic N A Z Is who have attacked the USA so supporting Israel is in the national defense interest of the USA.
-Rygg

Our Rights are not only God-given, but those Rights were also paid for by those who fought the enemies of America, and who shed their blood and died so that the rest of us could enjoy those Rights. Jews in America also enjoy those Rights...but strangely, most of those same Jews reject what America originally stood for, and instead, they choose to vote for Liberals/Socialists who want to fundamentally transform America and relieve us of our Rights. Every election is "mitzvah" time for American Jews.
obama_socks
1.5 / 5 (16) Nov 19, 2012
Blotto isn't answering because he changed into his sock puppet "lite" to downvote me. LOL...same old stupid sack of shit downvotes a lot of people, then he downvotes himself, then changes to yet another sock puppet and UPvotes himself. What a loser.

Back to the topic. American Jews seem to be more concerned about their Jewishness than with being American patriots. That's not to say ALL of them are that way, but a good many are. I have more respect for Israeli Jews who are not complaining and sniveling and are willing to fight for their own survival.
If I was a young man, I would go to Israel to help them even though I'm not a Jew.
Unfortunately, I'm now a middle aged man, so I am too old.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.2 / 5 (34) Nov 19, 2012
I have received a PM from FrankHerbertard, a sock puppet of TheghostofBlotto1923.
Sorry I am not frank. I am much more articulate and I have a sense of humor. This is obvious to most everybody. Sorry frank.
Blotto, you idiot...you NEVER mentioned the death of people to equalize the balance, in that thread.
Well if you knew what zero growth meant you would know that deaths are included in the equation. I and many others tried explaining this to you. You were given links and excerpts like the one above but chose, and choose, to remain ignorant.
Blotto thinks that "population zero growth" still allows the birth of human newborns. Blotto seems to suggest that "zero population growth"...and zero population growth ALSO means both death AND no newborns. In either case, it's ZERO GROWTH.
So let's try baby talk... 'When mommies only have babies when grandpa and grandma die, then there are houses for everybody and twinkies never run out. The end.'

-How's that? Anything?!?
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.2 / 5 (34) Nov 20, 2012
I had been referring to JEWS, NOT MUSLIMS. As usual
Well by golly you're right.
Palestinians want the Jews out of Israel. Why? Think about the secularism that is so prevalent in day-to-day Jewish life in Israel. A[n ENTIRE] people who cling to a religion and claim to be chosen by God, and yet, are as far removed [EVERY ONE OF THEM!] from the Ten Commandments as any irreligious group, will be looked upon as impostors who have no right to live in the "land of Abraham and Sarah".
-Hey MM that's pretty damn bigoted don't you think? Translation: '[ALL] Jews hate [ALL] Muslims and vice versa because Abraham had 2 sons.' That's both bigoted AND ignorant.

So uh why would you claim that [ALL] Jews are 'as far removed from the 10 commandments as any irreligious group' -? It wouldn't be because you're a stinking bigot would it? What do you think MM? Oh that's right you're a Xian.
obama_socks
1.4 / 5 (18) Nov 20, 2012
I see Blotto is back from downvoting as lite...and lying through his tooth that he is not FrankHerbertard. Actually, FH is quite articulate when he wasn't calling for the mods to ban someone. Blotto, in his role of FrankRetard had to change his pattern of speech somewhat, but we all always knew it was Blotto in another one of his disquises.

Theghostofblotto1923 is too stupid to comprehend the obvious, so I will not explain zero growth to him anymore after giving the 2 examples that are the equivalent of each other.
Blotto will, of course, continue to repeat himself in this and every thread while sitting in his little room, worrying about his stash of Twinkies running out...ROFLMAO
obama_socks
1.4 / 5 (18) Nov 20, 2012
Blotto loves to argue by removing words and changing the context of whole sentences. Why does he like to change the context of sentences by omitting words that were there originally? Obviously, it's because Blotto thinks he is the ghost of a dead NAZI...and everyone KNOWS how those NAZIs always lied about other people's words.
Blotto will read this and get a thrill up his leg, and then say some more shit. But Blotto cannot erase all the things I originally said earlier, so he uses the old NAZI and Communist tricks.
Everyone who has even a small amount of intelligence knows the tricks that Blotto does in response to my posts and the posts of other intelligent people.
Blotto doesn't belong in Phys.org. All Blotto wants to do is to derail and demote the topics that people want to talk about with all the shit that he keeps coming up with....somewhat like a yapping dog who will not shut up.
Poor poor Blotto is off his meds, and that's why he thinks I am someone else. Poor deluded nutcase.
Estevan57
2.3 / 5 (46) Nov 20, 2012
Nice rant Otto. I see you can still make stuff up. Take yer meds!
By the way, the links are as dead as your soul. (mom)
Will you be sending me another text picture of your penis soon?
The last one was picture perfect and life sized. Congrats. Only 15 letters needed.

So whats a lie?
"I own you." Yup, I sure as hell do.

"You are a pitiful little man." So obvious it must hurt you every day.

"So I let my neice downvote you. I don't need to bother. 5 cents a vote, thats all you're worth."
And she did. 8 times, while I was on vacation. Did it hurt? Do you feel shame? Did you cry? Worth every nickel and she used my name anyway. 10 minutes work for you as lite.

Whats yer beef, you use lite, FrankHerbert, The antiphilo, and at least a dozen others and you bitch like a sad grade schooler at anyone that you MIGHT think is some dork that you fear from the past.
BOO! Pirouette! BOO!
Go find God(lol), booze or at least a Midol, you pitiful little hurt-man.

Caliban
3 / 5 (6) Nov 20, 2012
full support and resources of the US

And you believe Obama after he blamed a u-tube video for the murder of an ambassador?

Cali, Israel is one major example of who libertarians SHOULD support for two significant reasons. One, they share the fundamental concept that rights are God given, not state given, and two, they are surrounded by Islamic N A Z Is who have attacked the USA so supporting Israel is in the national defense interest of the USA.


Not so fast, Swenson.

"Belief" in Obama, as you put it, doesn't even enter into the picture. But since you clowns want to make him the Israel-hatin' Token of Your Discontent, just how do you explain that Israel enjoys the full, active diplomatic and material support of the US?

Oh, that's right, YOU CAN"T, and that's why you sidestepped the issue and started in on how every RepCon/LibertaRandiFascist SHOULD support Israel.

I've got some news for you --THEY ALREADY DO.

Moron.

Caliban
2 / 5 (4) Nov 20, 2012
Come on now caliban, you know full well that without the garrison state and bridgehead Israel, we would all be breathing fallout and fighting in the desert against a united Islamic caliphate empire stretching from Pakistan to the levant. And beyond. EVERYBODY.

You should thank all those religionist expats for dividing the Arab world and setting them against one another. And fighting all those wars which destroyed all that junk soviet hardware.

'I love it when a Plan comes together.' b a barakus


Yeah, I agree with you, in principle. But that doesn't change the fact that it was a criminal enterprise.

Also, I get tired of hearing these wankers screeching about how Obama is not only some kinda crypto-islamist, but also somehow actively trying to throw poor, pitiful little Israel to the savage Muslim dogs to be ripped to bits. That just ain't gonna happen.

The whole problem goes away with the development of that free/nearly free, non-polluting, renewable, scalable energy source.
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.2 / 5 (33) Nov 20, 2012
The whole problem goes away with the development of that free/nearly free, non-polluting, renewable, scalable energy source.
Under religion, more resources only means more pop growth. Unless the culture is destroyed, the problem gets worse. Dividing the people up and setting them against one another WITH religion is an effective Way of doing this.
For the record: I have only ONE other user name which is my PRIMARY name, and that is the one that I use to comment in threads dealing with Engineering topics. I have always received 5 ratings in that name.
That's a lie. Nobody gets all 5/5s especially someone who consistently posts ignorance and floods like you have over multiple suckpuppets. Same style, many suckpuppets. You cannot disguise this.
ryggesogn2
2.5 / 5 (24) Nov 20, 2012
"Belief" in Obama, as you put it, doesn't even enter into the picture.

Of course it does.
The Muslim bros believed in BHO so much they took over Egypt and Libya. What's interesting is Hamas is also feeling pressure from a Muslim bros group. So much so they have had to whack a few of them.
How can anyone trust 'leaders' who blame a u-tube video for their troubles?
"two factors pushed Hamas to ramp up its bombing campaign: competition from Salafi groups and Hamas' belief that its strategic environment had improved in the wake of the Arab Spring. Since Hamas was elected, it has found the Salafi groups in Gaza especially difficult rivals to manage. "
http://www.foreig...culation
ryggesogn2
2.5 / 5 (24) Nov 20, 2012
"In addition, the conflict in Gaza between Israel and Hamas cannot be separated from the wider issues that plague the region, including the uneasy relationship that exists between Shiite and Sunni Muslim states and worldwide concern over Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Hamas is known to have close links with the predominantly Shiite Iran, and its recently improved missile launch capability, which has allowed it to target Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, has relied heavily on Iranian technology, training and hardware. Yet the Muslim Brotherhood is Sunni in doctrine, and Mr Mursi will be wary of being drawn into a proxy battle with Israel on Iran's behalf."
http://www.bdlive...-the-eye

"Hamas, which took control of Gaza in 2007 and is backed by Iran, is so consumed with hatred for Israel that it has repeatedly resorted to violence, no matter the cost to its own people. "
http://www.nytime...imacy.ht
TheGhostofOtto1923
2.2 / 5 (33) Nov 20, 2012
How can anyone trust 'leaders' who blame a u-tube video for their troubles?
How can anyone trust leaders who would start a world war because some minor archduke gets shot?
ryggesogn2
2.6 / 5 (23) Nov 20, 2012
"Hamas showed it's true, terrorist colors today when it executed at least 6 people on a public street in front of children. Masked gunmen claiming their capti"
http://www.glennb...-street/

http://www.dailym...row.html
ScooterG
2.3 / 5 (22) Nov 20, 2012
Israel could end this entire fiasco without losing a single Israeli life. It's called "multiple warhead cruise missile".

Netanyahu needs to grow a pair. The sooner he does, the sooner Israelis can live in peace.
Caliban
2.3 / 5 (3) Nov 20, 2012
"Hamas showed it's true, terrorist colors today when it executed at least 6 people on a public street in front of children. Masked gunmen claiming their capti"
http://www.glennb...-street/


When you can deliver this headline from a REPUTABLE news source, then maybe it can be taken seriously. And something this gruesome will be in ALL the papers.

I want a link from Reuters, AP, Agence France-Presse, NYT, London Times, W.Post, Der Spiegel...from any one of those, Swenson.

That's an easy assignment for a troll with its claws clamped to the very pulse of World Events.
TheOtherGhost ofOtto
3.1 / 5 (25) Nov 21, 2012
Caliban, on CBS news tv today there was an accused Israeli sympathizer(dead) being dragged naked down a city street behind a motorcycle. Looked realistic to me. Glen Beck is supposed to be entertainment, NOT news. Have a good day.

kochevnik
1.4 / 5 (10) Nov 21, 2012
Israel is like the Hell's Angels: "they say they never start trouble, but they sure do manage to be provoked on a regular basis." Quote from Hunter Thompson

@Scooby Netanyahu needs to grow a pair. The sooner he does, the sooner Israelis can live in peace.
Be happy Scooter that you're the reason Russia must replenish her nuclear stockpile.
kochevnik
1.7 / 5 (11) Nov 21, 2012
While a million Israelis are in range of Gaza rockets and 12,000 have been fired into Israel in 12 years, only a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.

Israel is a nation of bullying whiners.
ScooterG
2.2 / 5 (24) Nov 21, 2012
"Be happy Scooter that you're the reason Russia must replenish her nuclear stockpile."

Thanks for the compliment, but I have no such influence.

But...if I were President, the world would know two things: 1) the decision to go to war would be very carefully considered and 2) if you provoke me (the US) to the point I must declare war on you, it will be total annihilation for you and your country.
ScooterG
2 / 5 (23) Nov 21, 2012
Netanyahu capitulated again. Israel won a battle, but took another step towards losing the war.

Israels enemies actually *desire* to die for their cause. They are cunning, ruthless, patient, and have balls of steel. It will take a world-class warrior with titanium in the nutsack to save Israel - Netanyahu ain't the guy.
ryggesogn2
2.8 / 5 (25) Nov 21, 2012
While a million Israelis are in range of Gaza rockets and 12,000 have been fired into Israel in 12 years, only a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.

Israel is a nation of bullying whiners.


If you point a gun at a cop would would be dead, and should be. Randomly fire rockets with no regard where they land is no different. Those that fire the rockets and those that enable them to do so deserve to have a laser guided bomb dropped on their heads.
Israel and the US should stop wasting money on high precision weapons. Fire back with cheap, dumb bombs and artillery. Why should Israel care where they fall. Their enemies don't.
ScooterG
2.3 / 5 (24) Nov 21, 2012
While a million Israelis are in range of Gaza rockets and 12,000 have been fired into Israel in 12 years, only a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.

Israel is a nation of bullying whiners.


What would happen if the Lakota Sioux (for example) began lobbing rockets into - say - Bismark, ND? You reckon the US government would do nothing??

The Palestinians are the whiners. They got their asses kicked - boohoo. There is not an identifiable group of people on earth that hasn't been put-upon by some other group at some point in their history. Sometimes life sucks.
kochevnik
1.7 / 5 (11) Nov 21, 2012
What would happen if the Lakota Sioux (for example) began lobbing rockets into - say - Bismark, ND? You reckon the US government would do nothing??
Your government did nothing when Israel staged 911. Israeli troops attacked an aid ship killing 16 including Americans. So yes your government will do nothing. Because zionists print your dollars and fundamentally you are a coward afraid above all other things to lose your comfortable lifestyle.
ryggesogn2
2.7 / 5 (24) Nov 22, 2012
What would happen if the Lakota Sioux (for example) began lobbing rockets into - say - Bismark, ND? You reckon the US government would do nothing??


Thousands are crossing the AZ border every year, shooting across the border killing US citizens and the US govt attacks the AZ state govt for trying to do something about it.

The point is the govt has an agenda which does not include defense. Israel's only choice is survival.
obama_socks
1.6 / 5 (20) Nov 23, 2012
I find it ironic and I marvel at the great divide between the Israeli government and military, and the Obama regime as pertaining to national security. Israel's gov't and military strive desperately to prevent terrorists from entering their country by having established checkpoints to ensure the safety and security of Israeli citizens, no matter of what religion.
Not so with Barack Obama and his appointed henchmen. Obama is determined to open up our borders with Mexico and keep them open to ensure the safety and security of illegal Mexicans and potential terrorists, drug cartel smugglers, and other troublemakers. Obama is proven to be unconcerned about the safety and security of American citizens who live in those border states. Perhaps Obama is continuing the gov't policy of allowing illegal drugs to enter the U.S. to keep American drug users happy and "out of his hair".
America needs a strong man like Bibi Netanyahu to lead us out of the mess that Obama is leading us into.
obama_socks
2 / 5 (21) Nov 23, 2012
What would happen if the Lakota Sioux (for example) began lobbing rockets into - say - Bismark, ND? You reckon the US government would do nothing??
Your government did nothing when Israel staged 911. Israeli troops attacked an aid ship killing 16 including Americans. So yes your government will do nothing. Because zionists print your dollars and fundamentally you are a coward afraid above all other things to lose your comfortable lifestyle.
-kochevnik

Israel staged 9/11??
Is that just hearsay or can you provide unequivocal proof of your assertion?

To be sure...a past Israeli gov't has done some dastardly things...such as blowing up an American Navy ship and killing American sailors. They also had an American spying for Israel in the U.S. Pollard is, hopefully, still serving time.
But as for Israel conning Muslim terrorists to fly into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, also the plane crashing into a field in New Jersey...where is your proof?
ValeriaT
1.4 / 5 (11) Nov 23, 2012
Why all the hate for Israel? They do nothing but protect themselves from that which has every appearance of barbarism.
Why Soviet Russia hated the West Berlin? It was enclave of the opposite ideology embedded into its sphere of influence. Currently the Arabians think, they're selling their oil too cheaply for Western World, the USA in particular. This problem would solve itself automatically (together with many political, economical and environmental problems) after implementation of cold fusion. But currently it's just the leaders of the Western and Arabic world, who gain their power from fossil fuel market, so they're motivated into its continuation which leads into tension between Western and Arabian words. The normal people, even the religious Jews have no actual motivation in conflict with Arabians.
Caliban
2.1 / 5 (7) Nov 25, 2012
"Hamas showed it's true, terrorist colors today when it executed at least 6 people on a public street in front of children. Masked gunmen claiming their capti"
http://www.glennb...-street/


When you can deliver this headline from a REPUTABLE news source, then maybe it can be taken seriously. And something this gruesome will be in ALL the papers.

I want a link from Reuters, AP, Agence France-Presse, NYT, London Times, W.Post, Der Spiegel...from any one of those, Swenson.

That's an easy assignment for a troll with its claws clamped to the very pulse of World Events.


Where's that link, Swenson?