Poll: Racial resentment tied to voter ID support

Jul 18, 2012
This graph shows support for/opposition to voter ID laws for each level of racial resentment. Credit: University of Delaware Center for Political Communication

A new National Agenda Opinion Poll by the University of Delaware's Center for Political Communication reveals support for voter identification laws is strongest among Americans who harbor negative sentiments toward African Americans.

Voter ID laws require individuals to show government issued identification when they vote. The survey findings support recent comments by U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, who portrayed a Texas photo ID law now being challenged as similar to poll taxes used in the Jim Crow era, primarily by Southern states, to block African Americans from voting. Holder pledged to oppose "political pretexts" which, he said, "disenfranchise" black voters.

The national telephone survey of 906 Americans was conducted by the University of Delaware's Center for from May 20-June 6, 2012. Research faculty David C. Wilson and Paul Brewer supervised the study, as states and the federal government confront the voter ID issue.

Racial Resentment

To assess attitudes toward African Americans, all non-African Americans respondents in the poll were asked a series of questions. Responses to these questions were combined to form a measure of "racial resentment." Researchers found that support for voter ID laws is highest among those with the highest levels of "racial resentment."

Brewer, the center's associate director for research, said, "These findings suggest that Americans' attitudes about race play an important role in driving their views on voter ID laws."

Ideology, politics shape ID opinion

The survey reveals strong partisan and ideological divisions on racial resentment. Republicans and conservatives have the highest "racial resentment" scores, and Democrats and liberals have the lowest; Independents and moderates are in the middle. In addition, Democrats and liberals are least supportive of voter ID laws, whereas Republicans and conservatives are most supportive. The link between "racial resentment" and support for such laws persists even after controlling for the effects of partisanship, ideology, and a range of demographic variables.

Wilson, the center's coordinator of public opinion initiatives and an expert on race and public opinion, said, "Who votes in America has always been controversial; so much so that the U.S. constitution has been amended a number of times to protect voting eligibility and rights. It comes as no surprise that Republicans support these laws more than Democrats; but, what is surprising is the level at which Democrats and liberals also support the laws."

Here, CPC researchers found an interesting pattern in the data: it is Democrats and liberals whose opinions on voter ID laws are most likely to depend on their racial attitudes. Republicans and conservatives overwhelmingly support voter ID laws regardless of how much "racial resentment" they express. In contrast, Democrats and liberals with the highest "racial resentment" express much more support for voter ID laws than those with the least resentment.

About the study

The National Agenda Opinion Project research was funded by the University of Delaware's Center for Political Communication (CPC) and the UNIDEL Foundation. The study was supervised by the CPC's Coordinator for Public Opinion Initiatives, David C. Wilson, an associate professor in the Department of Political Science and International Relations, and the CPC's Assistant Director for Research, Paul Brewer, a Professor in the Department of Communication.

Method

Results are based on telephone interviews with a nationally representative sample of 906 adults living in the continental United States. Telephone interviews were carried out using a dual sampling frame consisting of both landline (n=551) and cell phone (n=355, including 158 without a landline phone) extensions. The survey was managed by Princeton Survey Research Associates International (PSRAI), and the data were collected through English only interviews by Princeton Data Source. The data were collected from May 30 to June 5, 2012. Statistical results are weighted to correct known demographic discrepancies. The margin of sampling error for the complete set of weighted data is ± 3.9 percentage points. This estimate includes a calculated "design effect." Readers should be aware that in addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls. Please contact David C. Wilson at (302) 831-1935 for more details about the survey's methodology.

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Question wording

Question wording and Topline Frequencies (* Totals may not sum to exactly 100% due to rounding)

Now, I have a few questions about voter identification laws, or voter ID laws.
ASK ALL:
Q18. How familiar are you with the issue of voter ID laws? Are you …
34% Not at all familiar
43% Somewhat familiar or
22% Very familiar?
0% Don't know (VOL.)
1% Refused (VOL.)

IF Q18="not at all familiar," "somewhat familiar," "don't know," or a refusal
READ: "Voter ID laws require individuals to show a form of government issued identification when they attempt to vote."

If Q18="very familiar"
READ: "As you know, voter ID laws require individuals to show a form of government issued identification when they attempt to vote."

ASK FORM A:
Q19a. What is your opinion? Do you strongly favor, favor, oppose, or strongly oppose voter ID laws?
50% Strongly favor
29% Favor
9% Oppose
10% Strongly oppose
2% Don't know (VOL.)
2% Refused (VOL.)

ASK FORM B:
Q19b. Supporters of voter ID laws argue they are necessary to keep people who aren't eligible to vote from voting.
What is your opinion; do you strongly favor, favor, oppose, or strongly oppose voter ID laws?
46% Strongly favor
29% Favor
9% Oppose
9% Strongly oppose
3% Don't know (VOL.)
3% Refused (VOL.)

ASK FORM C:
Q19c. Supporters of voter ID laws argue they are necessary to keep people from voting multiple times. What is your opinion; do you strongly favor, favor, oppose, or strongly oppose voter ID laws? 45% Strongly favor
31% Favor
8% Oppose
12% Strongly oppose
2% Don't know (VOL.)
1% Refused (VOL.)

ASK FORM D:
Q19d. Opponents of voter ID laws argue they can actually prevent people who are eligible to vote from voting. What is your opinion; do you strongly favor, favor, oppose, or strongly oppose voter ID laws?
33% Strongly favor
34% Favor
14% Oppose
16% Strongly oppose
1% Don't know (VOL.)
3% Refused (VOL.)

ASK FORM E:
Q19e. Opponents of voter ID laws argue they are unnecessary because voter fraud is very rare. What is your opinion; do you strongly favor, favor, oppose, or strongly oppose voter ID laws?
44% Strongly favor
35% Favor
9% Oppose
9% Strongly oppose
1% Don't know (VOL.)
2% Refused (VOL.)

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AWaB
3.7 / 5 (6) Jul 20, 2012
So people are racists for not wanting the old saying to happen: "vote early, vote often" from occurring? Also, the voter ID laws are also for keeping illegals from voting.
but, what is surprising is the level at which Democrats and liberals also support the laws

Were they assuming that democrats and liberals are stupid?

*shakes head* I don't get it. I need an ID to buy tobacco, alcohol, to take a test at a University, to get a ticket for an 18 concert, etc. but I don't need one to verify that I'm eligible to cast a vote for the people that are going to run the country? If the $$ is a problem, we can let the pols stop spending billions of $$ on advertisements and pitch in on the cost of the cards. Seems pretty simple to me.
antialias_physorg
2.3 / 5 (3) Jul 20, 2012
So people are racists for not wanting the old saying to happen:

Fallacy of the inverse.
http://www.simona...inverse/
ryggesogn2
2.7 / 5 (14) Jul 20, 2012
It's not racist to assume minorities are too stupid to be able to get an ID?
Don't they need an ID to cash welfare checks or get food stamps?
Those who are opposed to showing an ID to vote want to commit fraud, put and simple.
Pyle
3.5 / 5 (8) Jul 20, 2012
It's not racist to assume minorities are too stupid to be able to get an ID?

If anyone is too uninformed to be able to get an ID, I don't want them voting. Forget the racist crap. Ignorant people who make no effort to familiarize themselves with how their society works shouldn't be going into voting booths.

There are some people who may be physically unable to get an ID. Something needs to be done to identify those people and provide them with assistance to get IDs. However, if people are unwilling to get an ID, then I am unwilling to let them influence elections.

I propose we declare election day a national holiday and get more people to the polls, with IDs.
Calenur
2.9 / 5 (8) Jul 20, 2012
The reason this is an issue is because it's shown to discourage voter turnout for low income families, which often are minorities. Getting a license costs money, and many people can't afford to take an unpaid day off in order to get an ID. From my vantage, it's not that hard, however I don't have children and I'm not starving. They're attempting to solve a problem which isn't there, and it's simply denying some of our citizens the ability to vote.

Personally, I don't have a problem with this kind of rule.
Pyle
2.6 / 5 (9) Jul 20, 2012
They're attempting to solve a problem which isn't there, and it's simply denying some of our citizens the ability to vote.

No, there is no "problem that isn't there". This an invented problem to suit the needs of the Republican party. Those needs being to have fewer votes for Democratic Party candidates.
The people most likely to be disenfranchised by these types of laws belong to demographic groups that have historically voted for Democrats.

As I said above, I don't think people should vote if they are willfully ignorant. I also don't have a problem with this kind of rule. What I do have a problem with is the distraction the discussion of these rules provides when there are many much more pressing issues that should be discussed.
ryggesogn2
2.7 / 5 (12) Jul 20, 2012
The reason this is an issue is because it's shown to discourage voter turnout for low income families, which often are minorities. Getting a license costs money, and many people can't afford to take an unpaid day off in order to get an ID.


If they are working they MUST have an ID. How did they get?
If they are low income and on some kind of welfare, they must have some type of ID to show the govt. to get the aid.

The guy who blew up a bus in Bulgaria killing Israelis had a fake MI driver's license.

The only reason anyone is opposed to showing ID to vote is because they want to vote more than once.

Calenur
3 / 5 (10) Jul 20, 2012
Pyle, I agree. By "problem that isn't there", I meant exactly that. Voter fraud is a non-issue, and this is simply a political tool.

rygg: Nobody agrees with you, including the experts in this field; I guess from your perspective that's hardly new. This is simply being done by the republican party to dissuade democratic voters, and they know it. Voter fraud isn't an issue. I don't know why you bothered throwing in that bit about a bombing, as it has absolutely no relevance to the discussion.
PussyCat_Eyes
2.3 / 5 (12) Jul 20, 2012
"what is surprising is the level at which Democrats and liberals also support the laws."
Strange isn't it that white Democrats and Liberals/Socialists would have ANY "racial resentments" whatsoever. Perhaps it's that old "WHITE GUILT" rearing its ugly head in these people (that makes them Liberals in the first place), and then those feelings of guilt are deeply buried in their psyche. But their racial resentment sometimes pops up in spite of being buried, because their true selves are so strongly suppressed for the sake of Liberalism.
I've always wondered why lily-white folks will never move into black neighborhood if they can help it, UNLESS the neighborhood is being gentrified, usually by a vanguard of gays and lesbians whose building improvements raise the home values.
PussyCat_Eyes
2.5 / 5 (11) Jul 20, 2012
Regarding the poll:
ASK FORM B: Q19b. Supporters of voter ID laws argue they are necessary to keep people who aren't eligible to vote from voting. What is your opinion; do you strongly favor, favor, oppose, or strongly oppose voter ID laws?
46% Strongly favor

and:

ASK FORM C: Q19c. Supporters of voter ID laws argue they are necessary to keep people from voting multiple times. What is your opinion; do you strongly favor, favor, oppose, or strongly oppose voter ID laws?
45% Strongly favor

Nowhere in these q and a do I see any indication of racial resentment. It's so apparent that the poll takers are injecting an unfounded racial issue into their determination for the sake of possibly influencing the removal of voter identification laws.
If voter identification laws are removed for some, then it would only be fair for ALL voter I.D. requirements to be reversed for ALL American citizens. Gov't will never do that. White Republicans might vote multiple times like the Democrats do.
:)
PussyCat_Eyes
2.5 / 5 (11) Jul 20, 2012
@ calenur and pyle...
Voter fraud is ALWAYS a potential issue when voter identification with a picture is not checked against the voter registration "books" in each voting precinct. If you think that it's not an issue, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'm willing to sell to you cheap.
Now if the shoe was on the other foot and it was REPUBLICANS who couldn't afford to get picture I.D.s, or who couldn't travel around without a car to get an I.D., then you would hear the DEMOCRATS screaming voter fraud.

Voter fraud is voter fraud, no matter who does it. People should be adult enough to understand what is required, and to do the right thing if they want to vote. It has nothing to do with Jim Crow or any other voter obstruction. The oppressed slave mentality is alive and well, and Liberals feed that monster endlessly.
ryggesogn2
2.4 / 5 (14) Jul 20, 2012
Voter fraud is a non-issue, and this is simply a political tool.

Only if you want to elect more democrats.
That's the only way some stay in office, fraud.
ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (12) Jul 20, 2012
"According to officials, the FBI has uncovered the registration of minors, dead people, and people who do not exist. Many of the registrations have included bogus names and invalid addresses.

Investigators said in one case a woman was registered to vote a week after her death.

They have also found multiple absentee ballots distributed to the same registered voter but returned with different signatures, the officials said.

Read more: http://www.foxnew...1Cxdj7T2
"
"MM found that 341 convicted felons had voted in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area alone, a heavily Democrat district, while the final tally showed that Franken beat his Republican opponent Norm Coleman by only 312 votes."
http://www.redsta...typical/
ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (12) Jul 20, 2012
"Wednesday, City Commissioner Al Schmidt unveiled a 27 page report that his office had commissioned entitled Voting Irregularities in Philadelphia County, 2012 Primary Election. The report, which focused on cases in 15 of the citys 1,687 election districts, found cases of double voting, voter impersonation, voting by non-citizens, and 23 cases of people who were unregistered to vote but nonetheless permitted to do so."
http://www.humane...-report/
"Workers accused of concocting the biggest voter-registration-fraud scheme in state history said they were under pressure from the community-organizing group that hired them to sign up more voters, according to charging papers filed Thursday.

To boost their output, the defendants allegedly went to the downtown Seattle Public Library, where they filled out voter-registration forms using names they made up or found in phone books, newspapers and baby-naming books."
Seattle Time
ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (12) Jul 20, 2012
"The Supreme Court answered this question in 2008 when it upheld Indiana's voter ID law. "Flagrant examples of such fraud have been documented throughout this Nation's history by respected historians and journalists," the court said, "[and] not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election." "
"Four local officials and party activists were convicted in 2011 of voter fraud in Troy for forging enough absentee ballots to "likely have tipped the city council and county elections" in 2009. Two veteran Democratic political operatives said voter fraud is an accepted way of winning elections. One of them who pled guilty, Anthony DeFiglio, told police that such fraud was a "normal political tactic.""
http://www.usnews...n-tactic
ryggesogn2
2.1 / 5 (11) Jul 20, 2012
"The agreement, made in a letter to Florida Gov. Rick Scott's administration that was obtained by the Associated Press, grants the state access to a list of resident non-citizens maintained by the Homeland Security Department. The Obama administration had denied Florida's request for months but relented after a judge ruled in the state's favor in a related voter-purge matter."
http://www.usatod...224900/1
Vendicar_Decarian
1.6 / 5 (7) Jul 20, 2012
Libertarian Queen Ayn Rand needed ID when she applied for welfare.

Isn't that right, RyggTard?

"Don't they need an ID to cash welfare checks or get food stamps?" - RyggTard
Vendicar_Decarian
2.8 / 5 (9) Jul 20, 2012
Republicans certainly love to purge those voter lists.

"an attempt made earlier this year to purge Florida's voter rollsbut the number of illegitimate voters found was statistically insignificant. Using info from the driver's license bureau, state officials compiled a list of 182,000 suspicious voters, which was whittled down to 2,600. Of that number, 107or about 0.001 percent of Florida's 11.2 million votersshouldn't have been registered to vote. It turned out those 107 voters included more registered Republicans than Democrats."

"The Obama administration had denied Florida's request for months but relented after a judge ruled in the state's favor in a related voter-purge matter."
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (6) Jul 20, 2012
And several thousand legitimate immigrants who were denied their right to vote because they weren't on the "allowed" list.

"According to officials, the FBI has uncovered the registration of minors, dead people, and people who do not exist." - Faux News
Vendicar_Decarian
1.7 / 5 (6) Jul 20, 2012
Vote Fraud during the Republican caucus.

http://www.youtub...761i0g84

http://www.youtub...Fe0vOEV4

http://www.youtub...n9lQ_W3I

http://www.youtub...p6OYC9b8

http://www.youtub...rB4617vg

http://www.youtub...OHoNzTGg

"Only if you want to elect more democrats.
That's the only way some stay in office, fraud." - RyggTard
PussyCat_Eyes
2.3 / 5 (12) Jul 21, 2012
Yes...Republicans and conscientious Democrats who haven't drunk the Kool-Aid of Liberalism/rSocialism DO want to purge the illegals, felons, dead people, and phony made-up names who are registered to vote. Apparently, VD prefers that all these people (including the dead) to vote for their favorite candidate on election day...or on a pre-election day mail-in ballot...and often, twice or more times.
And how about The New Black Panthers carrying batons (and maybe guns) into a voting precinct to terrorize white, black, asian and hispanic voters who fear for their lives when they see them as a very real threat....and who may even be afraid to go outside the building and possibly being attacked by these men.
The U.S. Constitution is being flouted enough by the illegal incumbent in the White House. It would be a gross injustice for him to return to the WH in January because illegals and dead people voted for him again and again... and yet again.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.8 / 5 (10) Jul 21, 2012
When do you plan to come back to my country, VD?
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (4) Jul 21, 2012
I will only return to dance on the smoldering ruins of your burned out cities.

"When do you plan to come back to my country, VD?" - PussyCatLies

Detroit may be my first stop. I'll upload video to YouTube.

Vendicar_Decarian
1.7 / 5 (6) Jul 21, 2012
Apparently no amount of evidence will convince hate filled, self deceivers and closet racists that Obama is American.

"The U.S. Constitution is being flouted enough by the illegal incumbent in the White House." - PussyCatLies

Death is the only cure.
Vendicar_Decarian
1.8 / 5 (5) Jul 21, 2012
And the legions of dead people who voted for Romney in the primaries?

Oh, those are ignored by PussyCatLies, and replaced with her own fantasy prediction concerning illegals and dead people voting for Obama.

"It would be a gross injustice for him to return to the WH in January because illegals and dead people voted for him again and again... and yet again." - PussyCatLies

Republicans don't live in a reality based world. They live in a fictional fantasy land of magic and second by second self contradiction where the reality is judged exclusively upon that what maintains their Conservative Liedeology.

I perfer reality.

http://www.youtub...-U57BaSc

http://www.youtub...e=relmfu

http://www.youtub...e=relmfu

http://www.youtub...e=relmfu

http://www.youtub...e=relmfu

Vendicar_Decarian
not rated yet Jul 21, 2012
Shootist
1.9 / 5 (9) Jul 21, 2012
They're attempting to solve a problem which isn't there, and it's simply denying some of our citizens the ability to vote.

No, there is no "problem that isn't there". This an invented problem to suit the needs of the Republican party.


40000 dead people in Chicago voted for Kennedy in 1960, throwing the Illinois electoral vote. Had the dead not voted Nixon would have been President.

Not a problem? Well, not a problem for Chicago Mayor Daley and President Kennedy. Nixon refused to demand a recount for fear of upsetting the Electoral process. Too bad Gore isn't as honorable as Nixon, eh?

VD, you haven't found that dose of penicillin yet? Your dingus is gonna fall off boy.
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (2) Jul 21, 2012
"Completed Dec. 9, the recount of 863 precincts showed that the original tally had undercounted Nixon's (and Adamowski's) votes, but only by 943, far from the 4,500 needed to alter the results. In fact, in 40 percent of the rechecked precincts, Nixon's vote was overcounted. Displeased, the Republicans took the case to federal court, only to have a judge dismiss the suits. Still undeterred, they turned to the State Board of Elections, which was composed of four Republicans, including the governor, and one Democrat. Yet the state board, too, unanimously rejected the petition, citing the GOP's failure to provide even a single affidavit on its behalf. The national party finally backed off after Dec. 19, when the nation's Electoral College certified Kennedy as the new president." - Slate

http://www.slate....d.2.html

"40000 dead people in Chicago voted for Kennedy in 1960, throwing the Illinois electoral vote" - ShooTard

Vendicar_Decarian
2.3 / 5 (3) Jul 21, 2012
I have never encountered a Republican who wasn't a congenital and perpetual liar.

Shootist has proved himself to be no exception to the above observation.

Conservatives are incapable of living in the real world. They are increasingly found manufacturing all manner of fantasy to compensate for the grand failure of their political and economic fantasies.

ryggesogn2
1.9 / 5 (9) Jul 21, 2012
"Schiller thinks now that a Democratic "mechanism was in place" to make sure that party's candidates won not just in the presidential race, but in local contests. As for the Kennedy-Nixon results in Illinois, he says, "looking at the margin of victory, it's very hard to believe that there wasn't at least a significant likelihood that the outcome would have been different in the state.""
""One of the major consequences," he says, "is that you can draw a link ... to Watergate in the sense that the lesson Nixon took out of all this is, 'I'm not going to be cheated again. The Democrats play unfairly.' ""
http://www.usatod...cs_N.htm
ryggesogn2
2.2 / 5 (10) Jul 21, 2012
"The latest voter-fraud convictions in Troy, N.Y., must be very inconvenient to the public-affairs propagandists over at the DNC and the NAACP, as well as liberal media outlets like the New York Times. It just ruins their constant refrain that there is no voter fraud in the United States. "
"As for the constant liberal claims that voter fraud does not occur, one of the Democratic operatives who pled guilty, Anthony DeFiglio, told New York State police investigators that faking absentee ballots was a commonplace and accepted practice in political circles, all intended to swing an election."
"former Alabama congressman Artur Davis said recently when he admitted that he was wrong to oppose voter-ID requirements. Davis says the most aggressive voter suppression is the wholesale manufacture of ballots, at the polls and absentee, in parts of the Black Belt of Alabama, "
http://www.nation...pakovsky
ryggesogn2
2 / 5 (8) Jul 21, 2012
"The NAACP opposes all reasonable measures to safeguard the voting process for its own constituents, even going to the extent of defending vote stealers, as the NAACP did in Greene County, Ala., in the mid-1990s. Small wonder one of its local officials was recently sentenced to five years in prison for voter fraud in Tunica County, Mississippi."
http://www.nation...pakovsky
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (2) Jul 21, 2012
RyggTard somehow managed to edit the following paragraph from the article he posted.

"He believes vote fraud did occur in Chicago and elsewhere in Illinois, but not on a scale that changed the outcome."

He also managed to omit this...

"It was really intense," Schiller recalls. "There were possibly forces of evil out there.."

Possibly?

And he forgot to include this...

"Donald Dowling, 73, a Palm Beach County, Fla., lawyer who like Schiller was a Wexler researcher, isn't so sure the Illinois results changed history: "Not at all. Drop-in-the-bucket stuff."

Lies of Omission are a very common form of lying used by Conservatives and Libertarian/Randites.
ryggesogn2
1.9 / 5 (9) Jul 21, 2012
"While the Daily Beast tells us that a voter is more likely to be struck by lightening than commit fraud, that conclusion doesnt hold up when you consider that several Philadelphia precincts have reported vote totals in heavily Democratic districts that exceeded 100 percent of the tally of registered voters. It was that practice that motivated the Pennsylvania legislature to pass a voter ID law there"

"Given the unfortunate timing of the Daily Beast piece, opponents of voter ID laws will probably do better sticking to specious allegations of racism than by pretending that cheating is a myth."
http://www.commen...he-memo/
xen_uno
1.6 / 5 (7) Jul 21, 2012
Pyle - "This an invented problem to suit the needs of the Republican party."

Ya think? Would reform of that nature have helped Gore and the democrats in Bush vs Gore 2000? I think so ...
ryggesogn2
2 / 5 (8) Jul 21, 2012
Former black Dem Congressman from AL:

"In my experience, most people who are exposed to voter ID would not change their opinion if someone walked in front of them and admitted they committed voter ID fraud yesterday they have their heels dug in. A number of people opposed to voter ID are opposed for political reasons, for reasons that dont have substance.

Read more: http://dailycalle...1Jt7WMfa
AL requires ID to vote.
Its legislature is now Republican controlled for the first time in over 100 years.
Maybe be just a coincidence since 2010 was an anti-Obama election.
Vendicar_Decarian
2.3 / 5 (3) Jul 21, 2012
The following quote from RyggTard is based upon a fraudulent document written by the Heritage Foundation. The most dishonest Libertarian Stink Tank in America.

The author of both documents is "Hans A. von Spakovsky" and for whom we find...

Opposition to the nomination (of Hans A. von Spakovsky to the FEC) was bolstered by objections from career Justice Department staff, who accused von Spakovsky of politicizing his nominally non-partisan office to an unprecedented degree...

While von Spakovsky and the Bush Administration denied the accusations of partisanship, the nomination was withdrawn on May 15, 2008.[5] Von Spakovsky subsequently joined the staff of the Heritage Foundation,"

"The NAACP opposes all reasonable measures to safeguard the voting process for its own constituents" - RyggTard

Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (4) Jul 21, 2012
Von Spakovsky's tenure at the Justice Department was marked by a focus on voter eligibility and voter fraud. In 2005, he led the Department's approval of a controversial Georgia law requiring voters to produce photo ID,[8] despite strong objections from Justice Department staff that the law would disproportionately harm and disenfranchise African-American voters.[7] Von Spakovksy subsequently acknowledged that he had written a law review article supporting such photo ID laws under the pseudonym "Publius", prompting concerns that he should have recused himself from the Justice Department decision.[9] The Georgia law was subsequently overturned by a federal judge, who compared it to a "Jim-Crow era poll tax".[9] During von Spakovsky's tenure, more than half of the career Justice Department staff left the voting section in protest.
Vendicar_Decarian
2.3 / 5 (3) Jul 21, 2012
It is so sad to see Conservative Americans like RyggTard trying their best to excuse the blatant vote fraud that occurred during the Republican election of Ronmey as their presidential candidate.

What is particularly telling is how RyggTard a Libertarian/Randite is even excusing the blatant vote fraud against his own candidate Ron Paul which occurred during those elections.

Clearly RyggTard has no interest in Justice or honesty.
ryggesogn2
1.9 / 5 (9) Jul 22, 2012
" The Supreme Court ruled Monday that states can require voters to produce photo identification without violating their constitutional rights, validating Republican-inspired voter ID laws. "
http://www.msnbc....6Y6Mn3No
"Mexican officials unveiled the voting ID two decades ago to properly identify electors in a country with a history of voters casting multiple ballots and curious vote counts resulting in charges of fraud most notoriously in 1988 when a computer crash wiped out early results favoring the opposition."
http://www.usatod...779410/1
ryggesogn2
1.5 / 5 (8) Jul 22, 2012
Canada requires ID to vote:

"To vote, you must prove your identity and address. You have three options: "
http://www.electi...=index=e
xen_uno
2 / 5 (8) Jul 22, 2012
It's more sad to see a liberal (ven) ignore incidents of fraud and corruption when the solution is so painless and cheap.

Here's what an ID costs (2008) ...

http://www.thepir...id-cost/

So what are you and your liberal buddies afraid of, ven? If a person is too lazy to get one or would rather spend it on some beer then they don't need to vote.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
Romney Hires Alleged Perpetrator of Voter Fraud

http://www.care2....aud.html

Fred Karger Accuses Mitt Romney Of Voter Fraud

http://www.youtub...SdPQ9cYQ

Even REAL Libertarians are calling out Romney's obvious vote fraud.

Bring DOWN Romney's campaign NOW! Election Fraud

http://www.dailyp...on-fraud

"I'm talking about paid mercenaries caught on video in Maine & Nevada state conventions. 2 videos below:"

Mitt Ronmey election fraud caught on tape.

http://www.youtub...embedded

http://www.youtub...bedded#!
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
No, it requires proof of registration.

"Canada requires ID to vote:" - RyggTard

Canadians only need to present ID if they are challenged by the scrutineer.

Poor RyggTard. Lying through his teeth again.

How Libertarian of him.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
Americans - particularly Conservative Americans - see national Identity papers as a sign of communist dictatorship and a supreme debasement of personal liberty.

http://www.prison...-11.html

A National ID or Mark of the Beast?

http://www.escape...-act.htm

"It's more sad to see a liberal (ven) ignore incidents of fraud and corruption when the solution is so painless and cheap." - xen

xen_uno
2 / 5 (8) Jul 22, 2012
Bottom line .. you need an ID for everything else, why is it suddenly "racist" to need it for something as important as voting? The country is going to hell because liberals pacify every special interest group instead of saying "hay ... this is the way it is". So it's not about political parties ... it's about doing the rite thing. In the long run, it benefits all parties. Anyone against it has some secret agenda that they won't admit to. Wonder what yours is, ven?
PussyCat_Eyes
1.5 / 5 (8) Jul 22, 2012
Absolutely....VD's hidden agenda is that he wants revenge against the American way of life...enough to see the country and the American people destroyed by the Socialist political system which he favors for his own reasons, and that another 4 - 8 -12 years of Obama will surely make the destruction happen. What Vendicar_DeFool doesn't understand is that it will not stop at Socialism. It cannot stop at Socialism because Socialism is a failure, as is evident in Europe. The plans are already in the works for a full Communist political system to take the place of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights as the law of the land, and to take over every aspect of the rights of the individual, which will be superseded by the rights of the collective and ruled by a foreign entity. Canada will also fall to Communism as will all other countries who will no longer be able to ask the U.S. for help.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.5 / 5 (8) Jul 22, 2012
In that future, VD will find out that he will no longer have any rights.the rights of the common man, the rights of the individual to live freely.
You will buckle under the yoke, VD, as will all of us when the Communists take over. It is a certainty that it could and will happen, and there won't be enough of us "Conservatives" that you hate so much to prevent it from happening. You might be happy for the first few months.until reality sets in and you see what they can, and will, do to you and your family, if you have one.
You can dance all you want under Socialism and in bombed out cities. But they will come for you because they will know what you are, and you will get no help from any of us because you helped the enemy.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.5 / 5 (8) Jul 22, 2012
You can say that voter fraud doesn't exist, and you would be a liar. No matter who does it, it will influence the outcome of the election.
Minorities and the poor white trash on perennial welfare and the Socialist dirtbags will be dancing too if Obama wins in November. But he will need them only for a little while longer. Just until the time is ripe for the complete changeover. You will follow their instructions to the letter and you will not complain and say bad things about them. There will be drones and cameras everywhere to record every move you make, whether you're a criminal or innocent, it won't matter.
You will find out what real Communism means when you can't run or hide, but you WILL have a job. For you I would recommend a job cleaning toilets in Quebec. :)
alfie_null
3 / 5 (2) Jul 22, 2012
As V. pointed out earlier, the right wing seems to largely be against the implementation of a national ID, yet in contradiction they are strongly in support of a voter ID.
It would be expedient to have a national ID that would then be used as a voter ID. This would reduce administrative overhead, saving the government money. It would also make life simpler for everybody in the U.S. who has to authenticate themselves in some way.

For me, national ID is not an issue (neither for nor against, I just don't especially care), so I'd like to better understand the dichotomy in this group.
alfie_null
not rated yet Jul 22, 2012
... when the Communists take over

What Communists? I think there are a few left in Cuba, but if you want to find them, you'd better hurry.
alfie_null
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
Wouldn't it be odd (ironic) if, sometime in the near future it was discovered that bigotry was linked to genes?
I'm imagining situations where people are denied jobs, not allowed to live in neighborhoods, etc. because they are genetically predisposed toward bigotry.
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (10) Jul 22, 2012
... when the Communists take over

What Communists? I think there are a few left in Cuba, but if you want to find them, you'd better hurry.

Start in the White House and take a look in the mirror.
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (9) Jul 22, 2012
VD's hidden agenda is that he wants revenge against the American way of life...enough to see the country and the American people destroyed by the Socialist political system which he favors for his own reasons,


He is an living example of the looters described by Rand in Atlas Shrugged. Jim Taggert was jealous of his sister and could only destroy the work of others to have any satisfaction.
We are seeing this happening NOW, just as Rand predicted.
So many hate Rand because she was right and has identified socialists for what they are.
Who is John Galt?
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (9) Jul 22, 2012
What Communists?


"In stating his case, Obama revealed his fundamentally socialist mind-set. According to the prez, unless the government funds something, it's not going to happen. "
http://newsbuster...-jarrett
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (9) Jul 22, 2012
"As it is currently organized, the F.E.C. deserves to die."
"From its beginning in 1974, the commission's distinctive structure has made aggressive enforcement impossible. The six-member body includes three representatives from each party. Because four votes are needed for action, Republicans or Democrats can block any major initiative. The commission unanimously rejected its general counsel's finding that both the Clinton and Dole campaigns illegally accepted soft money during the 1996 campaign."
http://islandia.l...nyta.htm
Even the socialists are critical of the FEC.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
Wasn't he a welfare bum like Ayn (anti-Smoking is a Communist Conspiracy among the worlds doctors) Rand?

"Who is John Galt?" - RyggTard
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (9) Jul 22, 2012
"Put simply, the Commission is excessively partisan and political, the enforcement process is cumbersome and inefficient, and the penalties levied are too anemic to deter violations of the law. To be sure, Congress has a vested interest in preventing any reform of the FEC; members, after all, would be the targets of many enforcement actions."
http://www.citize...-the-fec
ryggesogn2
1.8 / 5 (10) Jul 22, 2012
"Judicial Watch is investigating the DOJs partnering with Project Vote on a national campaign to use the National Voting Rights Act (NVRA) to register more individuals on public assistance, widely considered a key voting demographic for the Obama 2012 campaign. President Obama previously worked for Project Vote."
"By threatening lawsuits under Section 7 of the NVRA, Project Vote has aggressively sought to force election officials in various states to increase the registration of people receiving public assistance."
"Project Vote and the community organization ACORN have both been linked to massive voter registration fraud. A total of 70 ACORN employees in 12 states have been convicted of voter registration fraud."
http://www.judici...ct-vote/
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (2) Jul 22, 2012
Sorry Tard Boy, but there are no Communists in the White House.

Obama has produced a valid birth certificate proving that he was born in America.

Area 51 is not testing stolen space alien technology.

There are also no tunnels leading to a space alien base at the core of the earth either.

And despite the teachings of some for profit American Schools, there is no Loch Ness monster, it isn't a dinosaur, and the earth isn't 7,000 years old.

"Start in the White House and take a look in the mirror." = RyggTard

You should really join the John Birch society Tard Boy. It is more inclined to your kind of one brain cell thinking.
ryggesogn2
1.5 / 5 (8) Jul 22, 2012
" The only problem with this racket is that FEC guidelines explicitly prohibit organizations from collecting PAC funds by threatening members with financial reprisals. SEIU bosses aren't exactly hiding their intentions, either - they actually wrote this fundraising provision into the union's constitution at their annual convention.

Despite a complaint filed by the Right to Work Foundation with the FEC, the union appears to have gotten away with their fund raising skulduggery. "
http://www.americ...lit.html
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
RyggTard quotes from a synopsis of the Libertarian text "Voting with Dollars: A New Paradigm for Campaign Finance" - Bruce Ackerman and Ian Ayres

One dollar, one vote is the ultimate form of Democracy in the eyes of Libertarians and Randites.
ryggesogn2
1.8 / 5 (10) Jul 22, 2012
"Van Jones, "Green Jobs Czar," self-defined Communist.

Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director, who stated in an address to high school students this past June that Chairman Mao Tse-tung was one of the two "philosophers" she most often turns to.

Carol Browner, Director, White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy, an ardent Socialist activist and one of 14 leaders of Socialist International's, "Commission for a Sustainable World Society," which calls for "global governance."

Cass Sunstein, Administrator of the White House Office of Administration and Regulatory Affairs , "who openly argues for bringing socialism to the United States, and even lends support for communism...."

"President Obama's "Manufacturing Czar," Ron Bloom....We know that the free market is nonsense....
http://www.americ...mao.html
ryggesogn2
1.6 / 5 (7) Jul 22, 2012
"When I saw the cover photograph of Valerie Jarrett, I was reminded of the school fight song referring to Stanford Red.
" Grove Parc and several other prominent failures were developed and managed by Obamas close friends and political supporters. Those people profited from the [federal] subsidies even as many of Obamas constituents suffered. Tenants lost their homes; surrounding neighborhoods were blighted. Among those [profiting] was convicted felon, Antoin Tony Rezko. Need I go on?"
{Sounds like the govt in Atlas Shrugged.}
" (Van Jones:}I met all these radical people of color, I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. It was like this is what I need to be a part of. "
http://alumni.sta...id=29325
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
Here RyggTard quotes from the Libertarian circle jerk publication "the American Thinker" a Magazine that is kind of like a sex blog in which the authors try to out do each other by posting the most outrageous clap trap possible.

It is an outlet for frustrated Libertarian writers who are looking for an equally brain dead audience that doesn't laugh at them.

"The only problem with this racket is that FEC guidelines " - RyggTard

Not the only problem with the American Thinker's accusation is that it has no basis in fact.

Awwwwwwwwwwww... Poor RyggTard.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
In July 2009 he became "embroiled in a controversy"[8] over his past political activities, including a public comment disparaging congressional Republicans, his name appearing on a petition for 911Truth.org, and allegations of association with a Marxist group during the 1990s.[9][10] For these issues, Van Jones was heavily criticized by conservatives.[11] Jones resigned from the position in early September 2009.[8] "On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me," Jones said in his resignation statement. "They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide.

And RyggTard continues the Conservative Smear Campaign against Van Jones.

Lying is the principle tactic that Conservatives use.

I have never encountered a Conservative who wasn't a congenital and perpetual liar.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
Good for her. A global mixed socialist economy is the future for all of mankind.

The brutality and naked violence of Free Markets has been rejected by every thinking person on earth, although not yet by troglidites criminals, or the walking brain dead.

"Carol Browner, Director, White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy, an ardent Socialist activist and one of 14 leaders of Socialist International's, "Commission for a Sustainable World Society," which calls for "global governance." - RyggTard
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (2) Jul 22, 2012
This sourceless quote presented by RyggTard actually comes from another circle jerk article in "The American Thinker", in an article titled "All the Presidents Mao".

It was written by Mac Fuller.

And who is Mac Fuller?

He is another Libertarian nobody. Just like RyggTard.

So we have one Libertarian nobody - RyggTard - quoting from another Libertarian nobody - Mac Fuller - as if he is a source of knowledge, when in fact he is simply a silly man who has zero credibility writing childish things in a Libertarian circle jerk publication.

"who openly argues for bringing socialism to the United States, and even lends support for communism" - RyggTard
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (2) Jul 22, 2012
Here RyggTard is quoting from a letter to the editor written to "Stanford Magazine"

But what RyggTard leaves out is the sentences before and after.

Jones, a self-proclaimed communist, attributed his conversion to people he met during his incarceration: "I met all these radical people of color, I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. It was like 'this is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary."

No doubt one will associate with many unusual people in prison.

You really don't have much choice do you?

" (Van Jones:}I met all these radical people of color, I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. It was like this is what I need to be a part of. " - RyggTard

Odd how RyggTard is regularly caught leaving out the context of his quotes in order to change their meaning.

Dishonesty is the hallmark of every Libertarian I have ever encountered.

Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (2) Jul 22, 2012
Ron Bloom is quite right.

America's entry into it's current financial depression is a direct result of the excesses of "free" markets.

RyggTard needs to explain to us why a free market in Child Prostitution and a free market in child pornography are good things.

As the Libertarian Party Platform holds, it ain't molestation if the child is willing and paid for his/her services.

""President Obama's "Manufacturing Czar," Ron Bloom....We know that the free market is nonsense...." - RyggTard

Odd how RyggTard never seems willing to respond to such inconvenient facts about the Libertarian Party.
ryggesogn2
1.5 / 5 (8) Jul 22, 2012
"Stepping on one American to build up another is not the answer."
http://www.lvrj.c...986.html

""You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot lift the wage-earner by pulling down the wage-payer.
You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative
and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could
and should do for themselves." "
http://quotes.lib...ote.C3F9
Socialists don't agree.
ab3a
2.3 / 5 (3) Jul 22, 2012
I see the questions regarding voter ID questions, but how did they determine "racial resentment"? How did they measure that?
AAhhzz
2 / 5 (8) Jul 22, 2012
Whether it is Republican or Democrat, voter fraud is illegal.

Isn't that true VD?

So since you have so many instances of voter fraud in the republican side of the house why wouldn't you support voter ID laws?

After all if republicans are so proficient at voter fraud they might be stealing elections.....
AAhhzz
1.7 / 5 (6) Jul 22, 2012
As far as can be seen in this article they just assumed racial resentment for differing categories of people.

Stereotyping at its finest.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
It was for many of America's founding fathers who employed slave labor to increase their levels of wealth and power.

"Stepping on one American to build up another is not the answer." - RyggTard

Isn't it the duty of ever Capitalist to provide his/her customers with the lowest quality product at the highest markitable price in order to maximize profit?
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
"Isn't that true VD? " - AAhhzz

Yup. And according to Republicans, every American should be suspected of committing the crime of vote fraud and hence must be checked against government created, lists of who is American enough to vote.

In the 1950's Americans took pride in distinguishing themselves from the Soviets in large part because the Soviet Union required that it's citizens carry national identity papers, while the citizens of America did not.

Now Republicans are pushing for the Soviet System to be employed in America.

Quite telling, isn't it?

Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
"So since you have so many instances of voter fraud in the Republican side of the house why wouldn't you support voter ID laws?" - AAhhzz

What makes you think that I don't support voter ID laws. I have never stated my personal preference.

I have however, shown how corrupt and hypocritical the Republican Party is on this issue.

Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
And yet the great depression was caused in large part by government thrift.

"You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift." - RyggTard quoting another nobody.

Poor RyggTard. He is 12 lower teeth short of a gear box.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
And yet the Republican Party has been fostering hate for the poor for decades. Republicans refer to them as "welfare bums" and "food stamp queens" etc. etc.. etc...

Work camps for Unemployed (welfare bums) according to Republican Voice.

http://www.youtub...H1wXi9M8

"You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred." - Ryggtard quoting another nobody
ryggesogn2
1.6 / 5 (7) Jul 22, 2012
" The best thing that central bankers can do for the world is to avoid such crises by providing the economy with, in Milton Friedman's words, a "stable monetary background"--for example as reflected in low and stable inflation.

Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my status as an official representative of the Federal Reserve. I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You're right, we did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again. "
http://www.federa...ault.htm
Liar.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (1) Jul 22, 2012
Three questions asked that are not listed above.

a. I resent any special considerations that Africans Americans receive because its unfair to other Americans.

b. Special considerations for African Americans place me at an unfair disadvantage because I have done nothing to harm them.

c. African Americans bring up race only when they need to make an excuse for their failure.

AAhhzz assumes too much. Hence his failure.
AAhhzz
1.8 / 5 (5) Jul 23, 2012
ab3a said,
I see the questions regarding voter ID questions, but how did they determine "racial resentment"? How did they measure that?


The only reference I made to race was in passing that this article seems to have no questions that reference race, thus from this article you can only infer that they were making their own standard as to racial resentment

VD, my only question was why wouldn't you support voter ID on the basis that it was illegal, regardless of who is doing it. ( I stand corrected that you have not stated a preference, but your arguments led me to believe you were against a voter ID, I read into them too much it appears )

Honestly all I want is an Honest vote count, one that at least tries to ensure:

a. One Person, One Vote.
and
b. Your eligible to vote.

Who you vote for is your own concern, but if your voting for them 5 times on the same election cycle...

AAhhzz
1.8 / 5 (5) Jul 23, 2012
*grins*
Three questions asked that are not listed above.

a. I resent any special considerations that Africans Americans receive because its unfair to other Americans.

b. Special considerations for African Americans place me at an unfair disadvantage because I have done nothing to harm them.

c. African Americans bring up race only when they need to make an excuse for their failure.

AAhhzz assumes too much. Hence his failure.


I didn't assume that it was African Americans that were doing the fraud, voter ID would at least make it more difficult to commit fraud, which I think would be good for everyone. And as to the price of such an ID, I think the state or federal government should pay for that. In bulk the price would be minimal. My own ID ( one of 3 photo IDs ) has my entire medical history, fingerprints, retinal scane and so much more in a microchip readable with the proper software and card reader. A One time registration at such detail would make it easy to replace
AAhhzz
1.8 / 5 (5) Jul 23, 2012
...Someone who lost their card could have their fingerprint matched to the one on file in seconds. Then a few moments, a new photo taken and they are back on the way to finish their day.

It could also be used as ID when cashing a check, getting a drivers licence and so on and so forth.

Quiet frankly I dont see a down side to this type of registration.
abclark
3 / 5 (2) Jul 23, 2012
I keep hearing people say "many people can't afford" blah blah blah. I'm Navajo and live on the reservation; we have 42% unemployment and have held that rate for decades. Anyone living outside a city has no running water, but a lot have electricity now. Basically, we're poor as it gets, but every single damn one of us has a freakin ID of some sort! It's insulting to hear well-intentioned people think minorities like my people are too ignorant or poor to get something as common as an ID. It costs as much as a 3 gallons of gas! It's a deadend argument. You have to have an ID for everything! Healthcare in IHS, welfare, and everything else. Too expensive...give me a break.
P.S., I'm still voting Dem in Nov...but gosh libs are stupid sometimes.
AAhhzz
1.8 / 5 (5) Jul 23, 2012
and lastly.....

Work camps for Unemployed (welfare bums) according to Republican Voice. http://www.youtub...H1wXi9M8

Your citing Michael Savage??? Macho Man Randy Savage was saner than this Savage....and you have trouble with ryggesogn2 source for quotes??....Really??

If you think Michael Savage represents anything more than a lunatic fringe I think that might be a problem.

Besides President Obama just redefined the work requirement all the way down to bedrest as being acceptable work....I get 40 hours in a week of bedrest easy....I could do 80 if I had a laptop...LOL

So no workcamps needed...
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
... when the Communists take over

What Communists? I think there are a few left in Cuba, but if you want to find them, you'd better hurry.
- alfie_null

Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC)
"Economic Justice" is doublespeak for Redistribution of the Wealth and higher tax rates from the middle class and the wealthy. The poor pay no income taxes. Even the working poor, below a certain income level, pay no income taxes.
"Civil Rights" and "Civil Liberties" are included already in the U.S. Constitution and are inalienable for each American citizen unless modified or fundamentally changed by Congress..

http://cpc.grijal...ree=2,74
The CPC is a political organization that promotes Socialism, and is regarded as an ally by the American Communist Party aka Communist Party USA
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
http://www.politi...e-membe/
In this, U.S. Representative Allen West, (Republican, Florida) didn't keep his mouth shut as he should have if he had planned on a full investigation to determine who is a Socialist and who is a Communist in the CPC. They are Socialists, that's evident.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
http://cpusa.org/
The cpusa is rooting for and is supportive of full Socialism to succeed in the U.S. because it will only be a small step from there with some modifications of the sociopolitical system to be converted to the sociopolitics of Communism.
In the present age, the word and the specter of Communism is not very popular in the West. The reason for this is that the average American who reads history and those who remember the Communists and their pogroms, the Cold War and the cruelty and viciousness of Stalin tend to equate Communism with those tragic eras.
But the cpusa holds onto its Communist ideology while supporting Socialism. If they did not believe in their Communist ideology, they would have changed their name to Socialist Party USA. They are counting on American citizens to get fed up with the current political, social and economic status quo and either become Socialists or Communists.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.5 / 5 (8) Jul 23, 2012
A well informed citizenry is just as important as a well armed citizenry.

http://www.politi...037.html
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
If Della Plana is correct that Americans are taking an interest in Socialism because of all the hype and accusations, I hope it is an awareness that this abomination might be in our future and how to go about removing the possibility. Awareness is important and is helpful as a means to define the best deterrent for those who refuse to live under such a oppressive regime.
http://en.wikiped...arty_USA
les_legato
5 / 5 (2) Jul 23, 2012
Where's the question about the NAACP requiring TWO FORMS OF PHOTO ID to gain admittance to their recent convention?
Sean_W
1.9 / 5 (9) Jul 23, 2012
Republicans are trying to disenfranchise the dead and illegal aliens. Intolerance.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
Republicans certainly love to purge those voter lists. "an attempt made earlier this year to purge Florida's voter rollsbut the number of illegitimate voters found was statistically insignificant. Using info from the driver's license bureau, state officials compiled a list of 182,000 suspicious voters, which was whittled down to 2,600. Of that number, 107or about 0.001 percent of Florida's 11.2 million votersshouldn't have been registered to vote. It turned out those 107 voters included more registered Republicans than Democrats." "The Obama administration had denied Florida's request for months but relented after a judge ruled in the state's favor in a related voter-purge matter."
- Venerable_Democrat/Socialist_Apologist aka VD All the more reason for a nation-wide picture voter I.D. card. Such an I.D. card reduces confusion of who is eligible to vote and who isn't eligible. Each state would have each registered voter in the books prior to the elections. (contd)
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
(contd)
If the eligible voter doesn't or can't register on time and acquire a voter picture I.D., then s/he is out of luck and will have to wait for the next election. No frills and no thrills. Just good common sense and logic to it.
It will dispel all possibilities and probabilities of voter fraud because each registrant will be in a national mainframe as well as in each state, so that crossing into other states and counties to vote multiple times will be a thing of the past.
It would remove the big and little problems in election years and would be beneficial to all political parties to have an "honest" election.
ryggesogn2
1.6 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
I'm still voting Dem in Nov...but gosh libs are stupid sometimes.

Why do you like 42% unemployment and being dependent upon the state?
Michael Savage, aka Michael Wiener, PhD, UC Berkley, is correct, 'liberalism' IS a mental disorder.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
@alfie_null and VD
In http://en.wikiped...arty_USA under the heading of "From glasnost to the 21st century (1989 - present)"

'The report stresses its dedication to revolutionary struggle, but states that Americans should look for peaceful revolutionary change. Webb says that capitalism cannot solve problems such as economic stagnation, racism, gender discrimination, or poverty. The report explains that there will be many transitory stages from capitalism, to socialism, and finally to communism. On the issue of markets in a socialist society, Webb states, "Admittedly, market mechanisms in a socialist society can generate inequality, disproportions and imbalances, destructive competition, downward pressure on wages, and monopoly cornering of commodity markets even the danger of capitalist restoration. But this is not sufficient reason for concluding that markets have no place in a socialist economy.'

"stages from capitalism, to socialism, and finally to communism.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
"Where's the question about the NAACP requiring TWO FORMS OF PHOTO ID to gain admittance to their recent convention?" - les_legato

Could it be that the NAACP now practices DISCRIMINATION like the old "Whites Only" country clubs used to do? After all, Picture I.D. cards identify who is an eligible member and who is illegal or dead. All the NAACP has to do is to match the face on the I.D. to the face on the person, especially if the dues weren't yet paid. :)

"Republicans are trying to disenfranchise the dead and illegal aliens. Intolerance." - Sean_W

Yes...the civil rights to vote in elections are sorely missing from those who have gone to their final reward. A bill has to be passed by liberal Congresspersons to enable the dead to rise and walk to their voting booth even if they have to crawl. Most likely, however, Liberals will see to it that the dead get to vote as they will be given bus rides to get to the nearest voting precinct. Illegals can vote anywhere they want. No problem.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jul 23, 2012
I keep hearing people say "many people can't afford" blah blah blah. I'm Navajo and live on the reservation; we have 42% unemployment and have held that rate for decades. Anyone living outside a city has no running water, but a lot have electricity now. Basically, we're poor as it gets, but every single damn one of us has a freakin ID of some sort! It's insulting to hear well-intentioned people think minorities like my people are too ignorant or poor to get something as common as an ID. It costs as much as a 3 gallons of gas! It's a deadend argument. You have to have an ID for everything! Healthcare in IHS, welfare, and everything else. Too expensive...give me a break.
P.S., I'm still voting Dem in Nov...but gosh libs are stupid sometimes.
- abclark

Somehow, I don't feel sorry for you. You have what I call, the "oppressed slave mentality" even if Navajo people have never been slaves.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (6) Jul 23, 2012
(contd)
You have turned yourself into an oppressed slave due to your acceptance of your lot in life...your situation that sucks for decades already and how you seem to feel resigned to it. If you don't like living in such a bad situation, then CHANGE IT!! NO FRIGGIN EXCUSES and looking for pity...because you won't find pity, except from the phony baloney Liberal bleeding hearts who will come to see your poverty, and then go home to their posh digs like all phony Liberals do. Become an entrepreneur and start a business, get a good education and also educate yourself. Learn a marketable and good paying skill. Get yourself and your people out of that rut you're in and don't expect any handouts. Do you understand why people living in the MidWest hate native Americans? They regard your people as useless drunken welfare bums and thieves. So CHANGE IT. THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL YOUR PEOPLE GET RESPECT. If you vote for the Dems, then you will stay in poverty for more decades just like Blacks.