Research finds Stonehenge was monument marking unification of Britain

Jun 22, 2012
Stonehenge. Image: Wikipedia.

After 10 years of archaeological investigations, researchers have concluded that Stonehenge was built as a monument to unify the peoples of Britain, after a long period of conflict and regional difference between eastern and western Britain.

Its stones are thought to have symbolized the of different groups of earliest farming communities in Britain, with some stones coming from southern England and others from west Wales.

The teams, from the universities of Sheffield, Manchester, Southampton, Bournemouth and University College London, all working on the Riverside Project (SRP), explored not just Stonehenge and its landscape but also the wider social and economic context of the monument's main stages of construction around 3,000 BC and 2,500 BC.

"When Stonehenge was built", said Professor Mike Parker Pearson of the University of Sheffield, "there was a growing island-wide culture – the same styles of houses, pottery and other material forms were used from Orkney to the south coast. This was very different to the regionalism of previous centuries. Stonehenge itself was a massive undertaking, requiring the labour of thousands to move stones from as far away as west Wales, shaping them and erecting them. Just the work itself, requiring everyone literally to pull together, would have been an act of unification."

Stonehenge may have been built in a place that already had special significance for prehistoric Britons. The SRP team have found that its solstice-aligned Avenue sits upon a series of natural landforms that, by chance, form an axis between the directions of midsummer sunrise and midwinter sunset.

Professor Parker Pearson continued: "When we stumbled across this extraordinary natural arrangement of the sun's path being marked in the land, we realized that prehistoric people selected this place to build Stonehenge because of its pre-ordained significance. This might explain why there are eight monuments in the Stonehenge area with solstitial alignments, a number unmatched anywhere else. Perhaps they saw this place as the centre of the world".

Although many people flocked to Stonehenge yesterday for the summer solstice, it seems that the winter solstice was the more significant time of the year when Stonehenge was built 5,000-4,500 years ago.

Professor Parker Pearson said: "We can tell from ageing of the pig teeth that higher quantities of pork were eaten during midwinter at the nearby settlement of Durrington Walls, and most of the monuments in the Stonehenge area are aligned on sunrise and sunset at midwinter rather than midsummer. At Stonehenge itself, the principal axis appears to be in the opposite direction to midsummer sunrise, towards midsummer sunset, framed by the monument's largest stone setting, the great trilithon."

Parker Pearson and the SRP team firmly reject ideas that Stonehenge was inspired by ancient Egyptians or extra-terrestrials. He said: "All the architectural influences for Stonehenge can be found in previous monuments and buildings within Britain, with origins in Wales and Scotland. In fact, Britain's Neolithic people were isolated from the rest of Europe for centuries. Britain may have become unified but there was no interest in interacting with people across the Channel. Stonehenge appears to have been the last gasp of this Stone Age culture, which was isolated from Europe and from the new technologies of metal tools and the wheel."

Previous theories have suggested the great stone circle was used as a prehistoric observatory, a sun temple, a place of healing, and a temple of the ancient druids. The Stonehenge Riverside Project's researchers have rejected all these possibilities after the largest programme of archaeological research ever mounted on this iconic monument. As well as finding houses and a large village near Stonehenge at Durrington Walls, they have also discovered the site of a former stone circle – Bluestonehenge – and revised the dating of Stonehenge itself. All these discoveries are now presented in Parker Pearson's new book Stonehenge: exploring the greatest Stone Age mystery published by Simon & Schuster. The research was supported by the Arts and Humanities Research Council, National Geographic and many other funding bodies.

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slayerwulfe
1.8 / 5 (8) Jun 22, 2012
first of all calling it the greatest stone age mystery is arbitrary as an opinion. religion must be taken into account as it is more unifying than governments, much more than enough evidence exist to support that. political rivals do not destroy their opponents with the same 'voracity' as do the religious clans or factions that are in turmoil even at the present time. that a previous circle exist may justify the concept that the latter is a more complete religious unification. forget the book i'll wait for the movie.
HannesAlfven
1.1 / 5 (15) Jun 22, 2012
Stonehenge matches the fundamental petroglyph archetypes, which precede religion. The reason that it remains a mystery is that the scientific community has largely abandoned any attempt to study the petroglyph and mythological archetypes, and have, as a result, failed to notice that the two appear to relate to one another. However, one researcher *did* look into it. Anthony Peratt, a former advisor to the Department of Energy, an IEEE peer reviewer and a researcher on the z-machine was able to correlate 85 classes of the archaic petroglyph classes to high-intensity laboratory plasma discharges. For those who don't realize it, the DOE was formerly called the Atomic Energy Commission.

It's quite peculiar that people completely ignore this important work when talking about Stonehenge ...

http://www.scribd...ntiquity
PussyCat_Eyes
1.5 / 5 (15) Jun 22, 2012
An act of unification, my azz. It figures that this team would have to require a "wider socio-economic context of the monument's main stages of construction", even 5,000 years from thence. Does Pearson honestly believe that thousands of Picts and Celts would come together to build this edifice just to show their goodwill for each other? It's preposterous. It had to be motivated by either science, or religion. I believe it was both.
Isn't it strange how the bloody English know with absolute certainty that the Druids had no part or very little connection to these monoliths, and that they know with great justification that there was absolutely no chance that Stonehenge was erected as an observatory by the ancient Picts or Celts to accurately mark the Solstices? Eight monuments with solstitial alignments.basically, it's a forward-looking TIME machine.
PussyCat_Eyes
2 / 5 (21) Jun 22, 2012
Then they say that it was "found that its solstice-aligned Avenue sits upon a series of natural landforms that, by chance, form an axis between the directions of midsummer sunrise and midwinter sunset."
By CHANCE? They seem to be alluding to the ancient Picts and Celts not being intelligent enough to notice from years of observation how the Sun's rays appear at certain times of the year, and how it was important to their religion, as well as their agriculture, to understand and know precisely when things such as planting had to be done.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.3 / 5 (14) Jun 22, 2012
If there was, indeed, a "natural arrangement of the sun's path being marked in the land". then someone would've had to be intelligent enough to make these observations.and make the decisions as to placement of the stones to effectively take advantage of the natural terrain so that the sun's rays would come through the space between the stones. The Picts and Celts of the time were animists, so I've read...and their religion would've also required knowledge of the sun, moon and stars. It is an observatory....in my opinion.
Leave it to the English to muck things up.then write a book to sell.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.3 / 5 (11) Jun 22, 2012
A knowledge of math, even if rudimentary, would have been a requirement for construction of Stonehenge. Not bad for stone-age people who didn't even have the wheel.
InsaniD
5 / 5 (11) Jun 22, 2012
Then they say that it was "found that its solstice-aligned Avenue sits upon a series of natural landforms that, by chance, form an axis between the directions of midsummer sunrise and midwinter sunset."
By CHANCE? They seem to be alluding to the ancient Picts and Celts not being intelligent enough to notice from years of observation ...


I took that part to mean that nature gave them a perfect "stage", and they took advantage of it, not that the ancients accidentally built it aligned without realizing it, you know, "pre-ordained" and all?...
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (25) Jun 22, 2012
they know with great justification that there was absolutely no chance that Stonehenge was erected as an observatory by the ancient Picts or Celts to accurately mark the Solstices? Eight monuments with solstitial alignments.basically, it's a forward-looking TIME machine.
-This from the grand intellect that brought us glassy-headed martians as seen in NASA pics (except that, from the correctly-interpreted angle, they were 1000 ft tall and napping) and of course the statement that NO jews believe that the stories in the torah ever happened.
If there was, indeed, a "natural arrangement of the sun's path being marked in the land". then someone would've had to be intelligent enough to make these observations
That is, if that someone was not the same person who would suggest putting microphones on rovers to record martians debating what those rovers might be.
it's a forward-looking TIME machine.
-Or who might think that stone monuments could be used for time travel.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (22) Jun 22, 2012
-But who knows?
http://www.youtub...=related

"Captain Im frightened."
I took that part to mean that nature gave them a perfect "stage", and they took advantage of it, not that the ancients accidentally built it aligned without realizing it, you know, "pre-ordained" and all?..
-Which is not unique. Akhenaten chose the site of amarna for similar reasons. Giza plateau was already sacred before the pyramids were built and the sphinx was shaped.
Caliban
2.8 / 5 (5) Jun 22, 2012
Other than the observation of the felicitous geomorphology, and the evident astronomical correlations inherent in the alignment of the lithons of the monument, everything other conclusion uttered by this charlatan is the rankest of speculation, appearing
--or so it seems to me-- to be some type of Nationalistic fantasizing or myth-building.

The purpose of function for which the builders intended the monument(and thousands of others, all about the Isles) remain unknown. There is still considerable doubt even about the actual date of construction. Most of the mystery arises from the lack of written language in the Isles --which is compounded by the relative scarcity of material written about them by literate contemporaries.

In fact, Britain's Neolithic people were isolated from the rest of Europe for centuries.


And this statement is so egregiously, aggressively false as to alone be sufficient to invalidate the entire effort of this clown and his coworkers.

PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jun 22, 2012
Then they say that it was "found that its solstice-aligned Avenue sits upon a series of natural landforms that, by chance, form an axis between the directions of midsummer sunrise and midwinter sunset."
By CHANCE? They seem to be alluding to the ancient Picts and Celts not being intelligent enough to notice from years of observation ...
- InsaniD

They had to have known that the ground was perfect for their intent of building Stonehenge on it....which kinda leads me to think that something else may have been in that place long before the placement of the stones. Such perfect alignment could indicate that.

Nieriel

I took that part to mean that nature gave them a perfect "stage", and they took advantage of it, not that the ancients accidentally built it aligned without realizing it, you know, "pre-ordained" and all?...
- InsaniD
Tangent2
4.3 / 5 (6) Jun 22, 2012
it's a forward-looking TIME machine.

-Or who might think that stone monuments could be used for time travel.


Just to be clear, he never called it a time travel machine, simply a forward-looking time machine. You could even apply the same to your watch, but you wouldn't call that a time travel machine either.

Just saying, be careful if you are going to try to reduce someone's opinion to ridiculous proportions and then criticize it.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.4 / 5 (9) Jun 22, 2012
I will now clarify my "TIME machine" statement. The ancient Picts and Celts (my ancestors) had no clocks, watches, or calendars (as far as I know). Therefore, Stonehenge also served as a solar observatory, calendar and clock to observe the time passing until the next phase. It probably was quite accurate, and it also placed a lot of faith in the ancient Druid (animist) priests since they were more knowledgeable than the common man. What better way to maintain a religion.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.7 / 5 (6) Jun 22, 2012
Thanks Tangent...you beat me to it...
:)
R_R
1.5 / 5 (17) Jun 22, 2012
The pole shifting impacts of 10500 BC knocked this planet into a wobble. The star charts of before were now useless and the ancients were forced to begin a new charting of star movement (precession) that took thousands of years to understand. This is what is encoded at giza and I'd bet my paycheck that Stonehenge is somehow related.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (8) Jun 22, 2012
R_R...do you have a link for that? One that is credible, that is.
R_R
1.5 / 5 (15) Jun 22, 2012
Hi PussyCat, no link on the web, but my work is explained in great detail in my book "Message from the Ancients". Credible is the only response I have ever gotten from anyone that auctually took the time to read it.
R_R
1.3 / 5 (12) Jun 22, 2012
Just thought of something, you could google my old press release "the first 2012 cataclysmic event occured in 10500 BC" which gives some more background. Not suprisingly it disappeared into the void.(never showed up here lol)
MWS
5 / 5 (5) Jun 22, 2012
Best archeological story since Piltdown Man
PussyCat_Eyes
1.4 / 5 (9) Jun 23, 2012
@R_R...I'm sure it's a great book....but I Googled the words earth wobble pole shift 10,500 years ago, and a lot of websites showed up. Many of them are sites that deal with not science, but paranormal, religion, and other unorthodox topics. I wish you good luck on the success of your book.
A lot of cataclysmic events happened long ago and will again.
But I'm very interested in Stonehenge, as it predates the invasion of the isles by the Normans and others
R_R
1.3 / 5 (12) Jun 23, 2012
MWS I have spent years pondering how, even in face of overwelming evidence, such massive frauds could be inflicted on us with such ease. I mean they say its normal for mile thick ice sheets to reach the US on one side of the pole while just on the other side in Siberia no ice but millions of Mammals on the Arctic Ocean coast. It so easy because the MWS's say OK to whatever rediculus crap comes from thier masters mouth.
R_R
1.4 / 5 (11) Jun 23, 2012
No worries pussycat, one day u will be a lion.
R_R
1.3 / 5 (12) Jun 23, 2012
MWS My deep appologies, tired and jumped to conclusions, so used to being attacked.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (19) Jun 23, 2012
Just to be clear, he never called it a time travel machine, simply a forward-looking time machine. You could even apply the same to your watch, but you wouldn't call that a time travel machine either
Sorry you're right I usually refer to sundials and clocks as rime machines. And this IS the poster who believes in 900 ft tall glassy-headed martians, and the feasibility of storing a volume of 28 billion barrels of CO2 in underground tanks. And SO much more..
Hi PussyCat, no link on the web, but my work is explained in great detail in my book "Message from the Ancients
Careful RR you may not want to get too cozy with this poster or you might get a PM from them like the one I got yesterday:

"So what is the REAL reason why you keep coming after me? Is it that you would like to make love to me. If I gave you my picture, you would probably cum all over yourself."

-comments from this person might reflect poorly on your book.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (8) Jun 23, 2012
R_R....I'll give you "fives" because you seem to be an honest person and I like that. Actually, I am a Lioness whose ancestors were probably those very people who built Stonehenge for their religion. They would have been a superstitious lot, and would have dedicated their lives to enabling their Druid priests to ensure the rotating of the seasons for the sake of staving off starvation. In agricultural societies throughout the world, knowing when to plant is crucial for a successful crop year after year.
In Egypt after the Nile floods, the people knew that it's time to plant. But in the country of the Picts and Celts, there were no such outward signs and they relied heavily on their priests to tell them which part of the time scale was optimum for planting. The positions of the moon and stars at night also enabled the priests to understand the time and season of the year. This type of timeframe incorporated into their religion would've helped to unify the people. Religion, not altruism.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (19) Jun 23, 2012
But I'm very interested in Stonehenge, as it predates the invasion of the isles by the Normans and others
Indeed as the Normans invaded in 1066ad. A lot can happen in 3000 years.

Stonehenge even predates the beatles did you know that?
http://www.youtub...a_player
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (7) Jun 23, 2012
I see that big lies are still being told about me by a true nutcase who morphs into his sock puppets and back again, and who believes that I am someone else that he has been chasing after, probably for a very long time. I keep telling him that I am not those people, but he persists in following me into threads in which he doesn't follow the topic and give his opinions in regard to that topic. He seems to live only to falsely attack me, and when someone points out to him that he is wrong, he continues with his tall stories about glassy-eyed space aliens and whatever else he can think of.
He misquotes me consistently as to the topics of which I opine. He seems obsessed with me and will tell all sorts of lies thinking that intelligent people really care what he's saying. It's become evident to me that he suffers from DISSOCIATE IDENTITY DISORDER, which has compelled him to make sock puppets for each of his multiple personalities. I only want to discuss the topic with intelligent people.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.8 / 5 (21) Jun 23, 2012
Hey pirouette/ritchieguy/russkiye/pussygalore I found a blog with many of your favorite words
http://tyme-machi...968.html

p/r/r/p opines:
those very people who built Stonehenge for their religion. They would have been a superstitious lot, and would have dedicated their lives to enabling their Druid priests...
Right. More evidence that p/r/r/p cares little about facts;

"Radiocarbon Dating of the site indicates that the building of the monument at the site began around the year 3100 BC and ended around the year 1600 BC. This allows the elimination of a few of the theories that have been presented. The theory that the Druids were responsible may be the most popular one; however, the Celtic society that spawned the Druid priesthood came into being only after the year 300 BC."

-A lot can happen in 1300 years. When was it again that normans invaded britain? Intelligent people expect you to make the effort to know these things.
R_R
1 / 5 (7) Jun 23, 2012
Hey Otto, doesnt really matter, long given up on the book. Its far too much truth for this selfish ass world. But hey im a stuburn prick.
PussyCat_Eyes
1.1 / 5 (8) Jun 23, 2012
And we need a lot more of them, R_R...LOL
Don't mind Blotto...apparently his man got away from him and he needed someone else to pick on and lie about.....male or female didn't matter to him.

Notice that I mentioned PICTS as well as Celts...but that doesn't faze old Blotto.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.8 / 5 (17) Jun 23, 2012
No druids among the Picts. You claimed that Druids were the builders of stonehenge did you not? And you called it a time machine. This is similar to you claiming that gyroscopes could generate gravity, which you foisted only last week. Can't blame that on some other sockpuppet from you or your bf.

Like I say, every post a 'kick me' sign. Only too happy to oblige.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.8 / 5 (17) Jun 23, 2012
By the by

"The centuries between 400 and 800 AD are often referred to as 'the Pictish period'. This name describes the culture developed by the later Iron Age tribes of much of mainland Scotland, with its heartland in the east and north of Scotland."

-A lot can happen in 2000 years. Picts didn't build your time machine either. GUESS AGAIN..
SteveL
5 / 5 (6) Jun 24, 2012
@R_R: As to polar shifts:

"This readjustment is very slow. In 2001, historical evidence for true polar wander was found in paleomagnetic data from granitic rocks from across North America. The data from these rocks conflict with the hypothesis of a cataclysmic true polar wander event. This evidence indicated that the geographical poles have not deviated by more than about 5° over the last 130 million years.[20] More rapid past possible occurrences of true polar wander have been measured: from 790 to 810 million years ago, true polar wander of approximately 55° may have occurred twice.[4]" From: http://en.wikiped...pothesis

As you likely have much invested in your opinion, both professionally and emotionally I'll not get into an argument with someone who ignores published scientific evidence of those who have actually done the field work. I would like to comment however; There is no benefit to us to believe that a cataclysmic event will wipe out our species.
R_R
1 / 5 (6) Jun 24, 2012
Steve, the benefit is we will invest more into developing methods to protect ourselves! As you likely have invested much financially and emotionally in your brainwashing, I will not break down the evidence u presented and show where speculation was presented as fact. But I sure could.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (5) Jun 24, 2012
Strange, isn't it, that Blotto hasn't said one word about cataclysmic pole shift or gradual pole shift. It seems that he has lost his virtual tongue as regards these topics in this thread, while insisting incessantly that he knows, without a doubt from reading it in Wikepedia, that the Picts were not the builders of Stonehenge. And that the Druid religion (or any other religion) played no part in it.
I NEVER said that Druids BUILT Stonehenge, but Blotto doesn't comprehend well at all, which is why he largely depends on Wiki to help him show how brilliant he is to one and all.
The truth is that some researchers THINK that there were 3 different tribes who built Stonehenge at 3 separate times. First were the Windmill Hill people around 3,000 B.C,, who were a Neolithic agrarian tribe. Then came the Beaker people, who came from Europe at the end of the Neolithic Period, and invaded Salisbury Plain around 2,000 B.C.
Next were the Wessex people, around 1,500 B.C. They completed Stonehenge.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (5) Jun 24, 2012
Stonehenge served as a Time machine. It told the agrarian people when it was Time to plant one crop and then when it was Time to plant all other crops according to the Sun, moon and stars. It was most likely also a place where the dead were taken for their final journey into the afterlife.
But the truth is, as far as exactly WHO built it from the start, there is no conclusive proof. Archaeologists are trying to find out more, but it's still only hypothesis and inconclusive.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (6) Jun 24, 2012
Steve, the benefit is we will invest more into developing methods to protect ourselves! As you likely have invested much financially and emotionally in your brainwashing, I will not break down the evidence u presented and show where speculation was presented as fact. But I sure could.
- R_R

Truth is, science is mostly speculation anyway. Scientists find out something is so, and that opens up doors to NEW speculation in a never-ending process. But that's why we pay them to find the truth, isn't it?
TheGhostofOtto1923
4.2 / 5 (20) Jun 24, 2012
But the truth is, as far as exactly WHO built it from the start, there is no conclusive proof. Archaeologists are trying to find out more, but it's still only hypothesis and inconclusive.
No we know for certain that Picts and Druids showed up a millennium or 2 after Stonehenge was built for it's original purpose. Contrary to the mindless bullshit you left here awhile back.

Furthermore, Picts were scottish and Druids were hill people. Neither used your time machine. Perhaps a tardis instead?

What makes you think you can just make stuff up and get away with it?
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.8 / 5 (16) Jun 24, 2012
Truth is, science is mostly speculation anyway. Scientists find out something is so, and that opens up doors
And as you said, you are as capable a speculator as any scientist. This is an indication of the extent of your affliction. That and your inability to recognize and acknowledge the errors you make, and to adjust your behavior accordingly.

It is almost as if your ignorance and bravado are crafted intelligently. This is why you are most likely a hoax yes?
R_R
1 / 5 (5) Jun 24, 2012
Cat, thats the way it should be with science but the truth is far different, money and power rules just like on wall street. The money and power decides what is "truth" and the vast majority of sientists keep thier head down and make the evidence fit the paradigm, if they dont thier gone and no one wants to lose thier means of survival. For instance the powers that be dont want us to know the poles shifted "yesterday".
TheGhostofOtto1923
4 / 5 (20) Jun 24, 2012
@p/r/r/p
-In other words you are not an imbecile but a caricature of an imbecile. You don't REALLY believe that you can just decide that people who wouldn't exist for 2000 years could build a stone monument. You don't REALLY think that gyroscopes can make gravity, or that the technology exists to collect and transport orbital antimatter in spaceplanes. You are only PRETENDING to believe these things.

Of course anyone who would do such a thing and think it is clever, has got to be a dimwit.

So either way I think it is safe to conclude that you are not very smart.
SteveL
5 / 5 (6) Jun 24, 2012
For instance the powers that be dont want us to know the poles shifted "yesterday".
The poles shift daily, but not by much. Mainly it's the Chandler Wobble, but in totality the polar movement of 20 meters over the last 112 years doesn't seem that exciting to me. It's hardly a catastrophe.
R_R
1 / 5 (5) Jun 24, 2012
Steve, id like to see your face if I could drop u 10500 BC when the poles suddenly shifted 2000 miles, the planet stopped rotating and the global flood that every nation on earth remembers rolled over the land.
SteveL
5 / 5 (7) Jun 24, 2012
Hm.. Perhaps I could help the ancient astronauts teach people how to build pyramids?
R_R
1 / 5 (6) Jun 24, 2012
That was the survivors of Atlantis duf, after they measured the angle between the old pole star and the new pole star too determine how far the poles had shifted, now back to your video game.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (6) Jun 25, 2012
Cat, thats the way it should be with science but the truth is far different, money and power rules just like on wall street. The money and power decides what is "truth" and the vast majority of scientists keep their head down and make the evidence fit the paradigm, if they dont thier gone and no one wants to lose thier means of survival. For instance the powers that be dont want us to know the poles shifted "yesterday".
- R_R

I'm not too sure about the global flooding. If the earth stopped rotating, would that cause the oceans to inundate the land mass suddenly when the centrifugal force stopped also? I want to hear it from you guys, and not from Mr. Wikipedia.

You could very well be right...it'll just take some time for geologists to find evidence of pole shift. As with all speculation, there will be more of it....speculation on top of speculation. That's science for you. Maybe that's what makes it so interesting, R_R.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (4) Jun 25, 2012
@SteveL

Mind you, I'm not encouraging R_R..but I'm not discouraging him either. If his theory is relevant, then we must hear it...but we won't know until then.
R_R
1 / 5 (4) Jun 25, 2012
Cat, an open mind is the most important element, glad to see u have one. BeCause once u open your mind u can begin to see all the evidence is manipulated to fit paridigm. Once shown how its done a few times, it starts to be easy to spot it every time. Not to say every scientist does it on purpose just they dont even consider there could be another option. Others know to keep thier mouth shut. Its kinda like wall street collapse, a few warned years in advance but the majorty remained silent. Guess what the same people are still in charge.

As to flooding u made good point, it would depend on how fast the planet slowed. My guess a day.
R_R
1 / 5 (5) Jun 25, 2012
PS while I have definitive evidence this planet did stop, its too detailed to get into here but consider many ancient myths that state the sun and stars stopped in the sky and then changed direction. This is exactly what u would expect for pole shift.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (4) Jun 25, 2012
R_R...a little friendly advice. I'm sure you have faith in your discoveries as being the truthful basis for your work. But IF your book contains any of the following, you will not draw very many adherents to your hypothesis and you will be less likely to garner much funding from anyone. Edgar Cayce, extraterrestrials, Sitchin and Nibiru are just a few of the things that will ruin your credibility with your readers, unless they have already acquired a taste for these things prior to reading your book.
I think it's established already that pole shifts have occurred in the past, and may again in the future. But the possibility of the earth stopping its rotation suddenly, and then reversing its course just as suddenly or shortly thereafter, may seem very far-fetched to the majority. I can understand massive amounts of earthquakes all over the world with tsunamis flooding everywhere, and THAT should be what would cause the great floods. But concentrate on the "natural" things that (contd)
PussyCat_Eyes
1.7 / 5 (6) Jun 25, 2012
(contd)
are highly credible and most likely, even if not yet confirmed. The internet is loaded with space aliens, religious experience, fortune telling, misinterpretation, disinformation, frauds and charlatans and crazies in general. That is not science.
IF you have such things in your book, or even on your mind, take stock of what you have and toss out those things that amount to fairy dust. Such things will not help you or your sanity, and you won't get many believers unless your book is based on rock-solid evidence. It's nice to be convinced of something with no chance of it being rendered false. But if there's even the slightest chance that any of it is false, find out the truth ASAP. I'm not casting aspersions on your credibility or your sanity as I haven't read your book. But being convinced of something without delving so much deeper will not help you or your readers.
Anyway, I'll look forward to reading your book whenever I find it.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.9 / 5 (18) Jun 25, 2012
R_R...a little friendly advice... You are trying to have a rational discussion with a person who believes, or who is pretending to believe, that
I'm not too sure about the global flooding. If the earth stopped rotating
You ought to abandon your attempts and begin to get angry that you are being scammed.

Oh sorry I see you believe the planet could actually stop rotating as well. My mistake.
Bwahaaahaaahaahagaga.
SteveL
5 / 5 (4) Jun 25, 2012
I would be interested in reading any credible scientific substantiation for this theory of how the planet stopped rotating and later started back up again. If there is a God, that is the only way such an act could happen, because it certainly defies physics. Counter rotational energies of that magnitude would be incredibly damaging to the planet.

Also if the planet did supposedly stop rotation then all land-based life would have been wiped clean by the oceans traveling at many hundreds of miles per hour over the stopped land mass (~ 1,000 mph at the equator). In the 12,500 years since the date you provided for the event, land-based life including Mankind, would have to have been re-seeded upon the earth. Again a God-oriented action because this also defies nature.

Frankly, I just don't have the vocabulary to describe how very sceptical I am of a theory that the earth stopped rotating ~12,500 years ago, creating your great flood, and then started rotating again.
PussyCat_Eyes
2 / 5 (8) Jun 25, 2012
SteveL....I hate to rain on his parade, but I don't see any way that it could've happened without the possibility that the atmosphere would've also been affected. Even with the earth grinding to a halt in one direction slowly, the reversal startup would've caused so many upheavals that nothing could've remained alive except for possible microbes. Massive amounts of Methane and CO2 into the atmosphere from the oceans and hydrothermal and geothermal vents opening up everywhere.
You're right, after something like that, the earth would have had to be reseeded with life, possibly from elsewhere, because 12,500 ya doesn't give enough time for evolution to result in us and other mammal life.
PussyCat_Eyes
2.1 / 5 (7) Jun 25, 2012
I'm not an anthropologist, but in only 12,500 years to evolve, our ancestors would've had to be homo sapiens sapiens already, not starting out from bacteria, not even a shrew-like animal. How would they have survived world-wide floods, massive earthquakes and conflagrations?
SteveL
5 / 5 (7) Jun 25, 2012
An open mind is a wonderful thing. A working mind is even better.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.8 / 5 (17) Jun 25, 2012
I would be interested in reading any credible scientific substantiation for this theory of how the planet stopped rotating and later started back up again. If there is a God, that is the only way such an act could happen, because it certainly defies physics. Counter rotational energies of that magnitude would be incredibly damaging to the planet.
Well it could have gotten hit in just the right spot by a moon-sized object, then later on it could have gotten hit by a similar sized object to spin it up again. But yes things would be a mess.
SteveL....I hate to rain on his parade, but I don't see any way that it could've happened without the possibility that the atmosphere would've also been affected.
Yes steve it would've gotten most windy.
Massive amounts of Methane and CO2
-Not to mention the absence of any atmosphere at all.
I'm not an anthropologist
No as not many carking dimwits become scientists at all. They are actually required to LEARN things.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.8 / 5 (17) Jun 25, 2012
Here is a nice visual aid
http://www.youtub...a_player

-This is probably not nearly large enough to affect rotation but it would probably evaporate all water and burn off the atmosphere. And melt a good deal of the crust .

This is more like it
http://www.youtub...a_player

-Something mars-sized.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (3) Jun 25, 2012
Poor Blotto. He obviously has never been taught the virtues of courtesy, good manners and being honest. He suffers from Dissociate Identity Disorder where he uses "classic deceit" to criticize those he hates with lies and unwarranted innuendo and attempts at intimidation of innocent people like me. He chases his dreamor his worst nightmare. He should stop bothering me and others with his fearful and unsupportive temperament. It's also obvious that Blotto prefers to pick on females and he has chosen me because I can't fight back verbally.
That makes him a whole lot less of a man...which doesn't surprise anyone with intelligence.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.9 / 5 (19) Jun 25, 2012
Poor Blotto. He obviously has never been taught the virtues of courtesy, good manners and being honest.
You flood physorg with outrageous bullshit, without checking your facts or thinking things through, and only flame people who try to correct you. And you treat the site like a chatroom.

This is rude, dishonest, and discourteous is it not? What if I come over and shit in your front yard? Same thing.

Learn anything about Picts and Druids yet? Of course not. Your specamulations are as good as any physmatist or anthropotionist are they not?
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.9 / 5 (18) Jun 25, 2012
It's also obvious that Blotto prefers to pick on females and he has chosen me because I can't fight back verbally.
I suppose it takes more than 60 posts a day? Like I say you are a dimwit regardless of gender.

Simple - tell us how Picts and Druids could have built Stonehenge. Substantiate your claims that affirmative action mandates quotas and firing people. Explain how gyroscopes can produce gravity or how a spaceplane could possibly trap and transport orbital antimatter. And address all those other cowpies you have dropped here as well.

You have every chance in the world to back up what you say, and this does not depend whatsoever on your gender, whatever it may be.

Justify this outrageous bullshit or be polite and courteous and honest and STFU. Can you do that?
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (4) Jun 25, 2012
Poor Blotto. He obviously has never been taught the virtues of courtesy, good manners and being honest. He suffers from Dissociate Identity Disorder where he uses "classic deceit" to criticize those he hates with lies and unwarranted innuendo and attempts at intimidation of innocent people like me. He chases his dream or his worst nightmare in his insanity. He should stop bothering me and others with his fearful and unsupportive temperament. It's also obvious that Blotto prefers to pick on females and he has chosen me because I can't fight back verbally.
That makes him a whole lot less of a man...which doesn't surprise anyone with intelligence.
sirchick
5 / 5 (3) Jun 25, 2012
It was not built by Druids. Druids/Pagans of tday mistaken it for a henge.

For a start its not a henge. (Strictly speaking).

Its ditches run outside its banks which means its not an actual henge, so those who are Druids/Pagans who go there every year are a bit daft or not too fussy, because they don't even check if its a proper henge.

"The word henge was given its precise modern meaning by Thomas Kendrick, Keeper of British Antiquities at the British Museum, in 1932. For centuries, any stone circle or ritual site was called a henge in imitation of Stonehenge. The word had long since lost its meaning in Old English, which was hanging place (either in the sense of gallows or precipice).
Kendrick used it to mark out a particular style of circular monument which occurred all over the British Isles but not in the rest of Europe. But, by defining it so precisely, he excluded Stonehenge itself."
jsdarkdestruction
4.3 / 5 (6) Jun 26, 2012
PS while I have definitive evidence this planet did stop, its too detailed to get into here but consider many ancient myths that state the sun and stars stopped in the sky and then changed direction. This is exactly what u would expect for pole shift.

ahhahahaha, get real.
packrat
1 / 5 (2) Jun 26, 2012
Those scientist can say what they want but people back then didn't build big except under the power of a king or equivalent or some type of priest and religion. Large structures built by everyday people (usually trying to make money somehow) didn't really start getting built until the last couple of centuries.
SteveL
5 / 5 (1) Jun 26, 2012
Large structures built by everyday people (usually trying to make money somehow) didn't really start getting built until the last couple of centuries.

Yeah, those pesky scientists and their facts can sure mess with a perfectly good psychosis.
R_R
1.5 / 5 (8) Jun 27, 2012
Cat, thanks for advice, no aliens, niburiu, or time machines. Just facts, common sense and o ya, the eye witness evidence of the survivors which of coarse makes sheep eyes roll. Unfortunately common sense and logic mean little in this world. For instance wiki says this on Canadian Shield "When the Greenland section is included, the Shield is approximately circular bounded on the northeast by the northeast edge of Greenland, with Hudson Bay in the middle" same size as curent antarctic ice cap-home of the preshift ice cap.
cacortez
1 / 5 (4) Jun 28, 2012


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PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (3) Jun 28, 2012
Well, as you guys have read in my posts here, I NEVER said that Druids built Stonehenge.The Druids were a religious sect. I said that it was built for religious and science uses. A Time machine for telling when it was Time to plant.The Picts were perhaps the earliest people to settle in the island and no one knows if there was an earlier influx of people to the island prior to the Picts. If there was, their name and history is long forgotten. The Picts were Animists and had tree gods and water gods as did ancient Druids. But as to who started the building of Stonehenge, I think it was the Picts.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (3) Jun 28, 2012
R_R...get the evidence that it happened. Common sense and logic take a back seat to hard evidence. Record every little piece of hard evidence. Work with geologists and try going back about a million years or more. Good luck.
TheGhostofOtto1923
4.2 / 5 (19) Jun 28, 2012
I NEVER said that Druids built Stonehenge.The Druids were a religious sect.
YES you did. You said:
Isn't it strange how the bloody English know with absolute certainty that the Druids had no part or very little connection to these monoliths, and that they know with great justification that there was absolutely no chance that Stonehenge was erected as an observatory by the ancient Picts or Celts to accurately mark the Solstices? Eight monuments with solstitial alignments.basically, it's a forward-looking TIME machine.
-Implying that their part was in the design of stonehenge. And you said that picts built it. Picts didnt appear until a few thousand years later.

The druids had NO PART in the design of stonehenge because there were no people called druid until many centuries later. Picts were in scotland and druids were in the hills, not on the plains.

Again we catch you making stuff up and trying to deny it after the fact.
sirchick
4.2 / 5 (5) Jun 28, 2012
@PussyCat_Eyes you don't seem to know your history and you call yourself a celt descendant lol? I how ever am a celt i live in Wales.

TheGhostofOtto1923 is completely correct in his above post ^ regarding the druids & picts.

The "buddy English" as you so eloquently put it, do know what they are talking about.

Less of the generalising of nations would be a more intellectual thing to do.. im sure not only the English work on the history of Stonehenge.
TheGhostofOtto1923
4.1 / 5 (18) Jun 28, 2012
Thankyou. Pussy/pirouette/Ritchieguy/russkiye also said:
I am a Lioness whose ancestors were probably those very people who built Stonehenge for their religion. They would have been a superstitious lot, and would have dedicated their lives to enabling their Druid priests to ensure the rotating of the seasons for the sake of staving off starvation.
So p/p/r/r. You think semantics allows you to claim you never said Druids built stonehenge?

You just like to drop words mindlessly because you think it makes you appear more knowledgable. You say 'Druids' and 'Picts' without knowing who they were or how they could have been associated with Stonehenge.

You do this a lot. You did this with phlebotomy and lost wax process and Arecibo etc. As people here are consistently more knowledgable than you, don't you realize the peril you put yourself in?
TheGhostofOtto1923
4.1 / 5 (18) Jun 28, 2012
But as to who started the building of Stonehenge, I think it was the Picts.
See that? You did it AGAIN, after being told that this was impossible. How could you think that a people who lived far in the future, and in a different region, could do this?

How can people read what you write and not shake their heads and think 'What an idiot'? They cannot. You are the lamest of the lame and you display it every day. Why?
TheGhostofOtto1923
4.1 / 5 (18) Jun 28, 2012
The Picts were perhaps the earliest people to settle in the island
"There is no clear division between the Stone and the Bronze Age in Britain. Around 2500 BC the Beaker people (originally from Spain) began to immigrate to Britain and brought metal-working skills with them. They made gold, copper and bronze implements and ornaments.
It was during the Bronze age (after 2500 BC) that circles of standing stones began to be erected in Britain. By far the most famous is Stonehenge..."

-And I already posted the link re the pictish period which says they appeared 2 MILLENIA later, and in Scotland.

-Unfreaking real. All you had to do was look it up but instead you just made something up.

What an idiot you are. Perhaps after a long day at work p/p/r/r comes home, cracks open a bottle of port, and turns on his/her settop box? People shouldn't post here when drunk or stoned.
XXian_Juggernaut
1.7 / 5 (6) Jun 29, 2012


She is correct.
The Picts built Stonehenge.
sirchick
5 / 5 (3) Jun 29, 2012


She is correct.
The Picts built Stonehenge.


Well that clears that up then o_0 ... any intelligent reasoning behind your statement for us to debate over?
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (4) Jun 29, 2012
Whoever he is probably got tired of waiting for you, sirchick...but it IS an interesting admission. So why did you give him a ONE?
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (4) Jun 29, 2012
BTW...have you found anything on the net that indicates if there were any other people on the island long before the Picts arrived? The Celts came much later from Ireland. I've been doing Searches and can't find anything about it. But I'll look again.
sirchick
5 / 5 (5) Jun 30, 2012
I give him the chance to backup his statement, I will listen to any one who has shown to have some reasonable reason to claim something.

To my knowledge the picts were in North Scotland mainly, I don't even think there is any study to claim their colonising occurring in England/Wales or Ireland.

Source for more info:
http://en.wikiped...ki/Picts

And im positive Stonehenge is not in Scotland ;)
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (3) Jun 30, 2012
Nope...it isn't in Scotland, but Scotland and England and Wales are attached...one solitary island. Besides my Scots/Irish roots, I also have some Cornish from Cornwall. The Picts were/are in Scotland. But I found this link -

http://www.histor...ruction/

"After studying puzzling stone balls found near ancient stone circles in Scotland that resemble Stonehenge, they concluded that Neolithic workers may have used wooden or stone balls and long grooved planks to slide the heavy slabs all the way from Wales. With a team of oxen, the researchers estimate, Stonehenges creators could have transported the massive rocks some 10 miles a day, taking roughly two weeks to make the trek from the Preseli Hills quarry to the construction site in England."
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (3) Jun 30, 2012
After reading the link, I tend to go with the Ball Bearings Theory and slabs because it makes more sense. It's a type of early technology. And the fact that stone Ball Bearings were found in Scotland seems to lend more credence to the Picts having been the first builders of Stonehenge. So far, there is no information as to whether or not there were other tribes that lived there long before the Picts who may have started the building. (Unless you want to go with the ExtraT theory..LOL)
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (4) Jun 30, 2012
ooops...I meant to say Ball Bearings Theory and PLANKS because it makes more sense. Stone ball bearings are less likely to crack under the weight of the slabs.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.9 / 5 (18) Jun 30, 2012
the Picts having been the first builders of Stonehenge.
-So you just -decide- that some people built something and then go about looking for evidence to support it. Why? Do you like the name 'pict' for some reason?

And like the scientists who are also trying to figure this out, you go to history.com to look for clues. Of course. For that and buzzle is where good evidence can be found for doing historical reconstruction.

Now all you have to do is figure out how they could have built it when they didnt show up until 1500 years later.

My god youre stupid.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.9 / 5 (18) Jun 30, 2012
Nope...it isn't in Scotland, but Scotland and England and Wales are attached...one solitary island.
Wow. Really?
BTW...have you found anything on the net that indicates if there were any other people on the island long before the Picts arrived?
Yeah I posted that info. I mean, there must have been because stonehenge was built many centuries before they showed up, right? But you remain unconvinced I suspect. Try this:
http://www.google...ie=UTF-8

Type in 'Britain first inhabitants'. Hit enter. Good luck!

My god youre stupid.
PussyCat_Eyes
1 / 5 (3) Jun 30, 2012
Oh wowanother good find from today's news:

http://www.dailym...one.html

And yet another one:

http://www.megali...46413937
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.9 / 5 (18) Jun 30, 2012
And the fact that stone Ball Bearings were found in Scotland
Lard is found in scotland. We know that lard has been in use for millenia.
http://www.buzzle...ute.html

-And we also know that grooves are hard to cut in wood. Have you considered that they may have used lard instead of ball bearings to slide stones over long distances? Have you asked a scientist about these things? Perhaps you should call NASA again and ask them.

Perhaps whole pig carcasses would have worked nearly as well, or perhaps the corpusles of englishmen. I am only speculating here as the best scientologists do of course. And as this is an open site, I get to say any fucking thing I want. Isnt that right?
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (18) Jun 30, 2012
Oh wowanother good find from today's news
http://www.thesun...ass.html

-And another!
"Reading this, I remembered a miniature and very temporary landscape I always found engaging. Our chip pan has been taken from its shelf, still filled with the lard that had been warm and liquid when the pan was put away a few days before. But now the lard is white and solid until, over the gas flame, it begins to melt from the bottom up, and holes begin to appear in the surface layer."
http://www.guardi...-alcohol

-Everythings relevant isnt it?
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.7 / 5 (18) Jun 30, 2012
Yes I am sure it was lard. I like the word lard because it has character and so we must begin to look for evidence that it was used to move stones to stonehenge. I think I will call NASA to see if rovers can be employed for this purpose.
R_R
1.5 / 5 (8) Jul 01, 2012
Thanks Cat, u a smart cookie. But I think it too far gone, science has succesfully marginalized the likes of Velekovski and Hapgood, most dont even know who they are now. Its like the "Mammoth graveyard" article, these animals all died the same day and yet they want us to believe they were buried all together but died 100,000 years agart and people buy it I guess. Anyway done my part, up to the younger generation. Good luck