Apple 'avoiding billions in global taxes,' report claims

Apr 29, 2012
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An Apple Store is seen reflected in the window of a clothing store in San Francisco, California. Gadget giant Apple is avoiding billions of dollars in taxes by setting up small offices around the world to collect and invest the company's profits, according to The New York Times.

Gadget giant Apple is avoiding billions of dollars in taxes by setting up small offices around the world to collect and invest the company's profits, according to The New York Times.

Saturday's report said an office in Reno, Nevada, where the corporate tax rate is zero, was one of many that the California-based technology giant uses to legally sidestep state income taxes on some of its gains.

California's corporate tax rate is 8.84 percent.

Record sales of iPhones and , particularly in China and other parts of Asia, saw Apple report last week that it made a $39.2 billion profit in the quarter ended March 31.

The Times quoted Apple executives who said the Reno office and others in Ireland, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, the and other low-tax places were among the legal methods the company was using to reduce its global tax bill.

The newspaper said Apple had "devised corporate strategies that take advantage of gaps in the tax code," citing former executives who had helped craft those policies.

In Reno, Apple uses a subsidiary named Braeburn Capital to manage and invest the gadget company's money, the report said, and when those investments succeed, the Nevada address shields the profits from being subjected to tax.

Former executive Robert Hatta, who oversaw Apple's iTunes and sales for European markets until 2007, said routing transactions through Luxembourg allowed them to be taxed at low rates.

"We set up in Luxembourg because of the favorable taxes," Hatta told the Times.

"Downloads are different from tractors or steel because there's nothing you can touch, so it doesn't matter if your computer is in France or England. If you're buying from Luxembourg, it's a relationship with Luxembourg."

In a statement to the Times, said it "has conducted all of its business with the highest of ethical standards, complying with applicable laws and accounting rules."

"We are incredibly proud of all of Apple's contributions," it said, noting that the company "pays an enormous amount of taxes, which help our local, state and federal governments."

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kafantaris
2.9 / 5 (7) Apr 29, 2012
Greed feeds on greed, but those steeped in it are too self-absorbed to take such notice.
The states, therefore, should impose a minimum corporate tax against companies like Apple that have gotten too clever for our own good. If Apple does business in the United States, then it should pay a minimum state tax to be shared by all the state where it actually does business. And if Nevada does not want the tax, it should be shared by the states that do. Either way, the company pays an overall state minimum tax. This should discourage the bogus operation centers now set up in places like Reno.
And if Apple decides to pack up and go altogether to Ireland or the Netherlands, the states should deem such move to be an effort to skirt state tax laws -- with stiff penalties ready to be imposed.
A corporate minimum tax is not a new idea in federal taxation. The states should find a way to implement it as well. Waiting for the free market to fix the problem is not only naive, but also foolish.
antialias_physorg
4.5 / 5 (8) Apr 29, 2012
Searching for loopholes is a 'high ethical standard'? Can they run that past me again? I think I have a different view of what 'high ethical standards' (ar any ethical standard for that matter) means.
ryggesogn2
1.7 / 5 (11) Apr 29, 2012
Greed feeds on greed,

You do mean greedy govts that can't stop spending other people's money?
Apple is a darling of the 'progressives'. Will this cause some to go insane or will they revert to form and act to punish Apple for its success?
ryggesogn2
2.2 / 5 (10) Apr 29, 2012
For all you Apple customers, if you feel guilty you can certainly send a donation to California or any other govt you choose to do so.
Corporations do NOT pay taxes. Their customers do.
IronhorseA
3.7 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
Greed feeds on greed,

You do mean greedy govts that can't stop spending other people's money?

Yes, the Medici's have been very good at spending other peoples money, ever since they invented capitalism to increase the amount of their ill gotten wealth. ;P
LiberalsAreDumb
2.1 / 5 (7) Apr 29, 2012
Since when have liberals been concerned with ethics? It's OK to kill a baby but don't find ways to reduce your taxes? It is the governments fault for creating such a complex tax code. No matter what you change, the corps will find a way to reduce the amount they pay. Since they already pay too much i don't see the problem. Why should a corporate have to pay for those who abuse the system? You say it is unethical to find legal ways of reducing tax bills. I say it is unethical to tax corporation so programs can be funded that are used for those who are too lazy to work, lie to gain access to WIC, child support, food stamps, etc. I could go on and on about the number of government programs that waste tax payers money so others don't have to work. You can't tax people into being ethical, that starts in the home. Liberals = bitter people, that's the bottom line. I have found that liberals are largely people who complain about it not being fair, or tell you of their "poor me" story.
IronhorseA
3.3 / 5 (7) Apr 29, 2012
"... Liberals = bitter people, that's the bottom line. I have found that liberals are largely people who complain about it not being fair, or tell you of their "poor me" story."

Just think of the 'poor me' story the french told Louis XVI . ;P
El_Nose
4 / 5 (4) Apr 29, 2012
question who was being quoted in the last paragraph???

@Ironhorse

I used to think that liberal meant new ideas a new way of thinking and the bad part is that the liberal viewpoint is still thought of as new... that if we are going to pay money to the government anyway then the people should get something out of it. The far left would like you to think this is socialist , but that is because they know most Americans are uneducated and will believe that rhetoric. Liberal is closer to the middle ground than ever before... and both sides have leaders that are extremists and the media loves them because they talk a lot and are very loud but the middle ground is the answer.
antialias_physorg
5 / 5 (1) Apr 29, 2012
question who was being quoted in the last paragraph???

From what I gather (erm google) former executive Robert Hatta.

Shootist
2.2 / 5 (10) Apr 29, 2012
Global taxes? Well, at least I was born a free man.

To be forced by the police power of the State to relinquish my assets, only to have those assets distributed to those who refuse, but are otherwise able, to work? Makes me want to hide everything I own, legally, or illegally, from the Tax Man.

It is Done.
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
In the U.S. government is of the people, by the people and for the people.

What is wrong with the American people?

Has the Libertarian Ideology of rabid self interest as popularized by American Capitalists damaged the welfare of the people?

"You do mean greedy govts that can't stop spending other people's money?" - RyggTard

Then why did the American Sheeple vote for the Bush Failure.... Twice?

Are the suicidal? Or has Capitalism made them so stupid that they no longer have the capacity to govern themselves?

Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
If you were once free why did you choose to become the wave slave you are today?

"Well, at least I was born a free man." - ShooTard

"Makes me want to hide everything I own, legally, or illegally, from the Tax Man." - ShooTard

Why don't you just leave the country and ride the high seas as a free man? Or find another country where you can be equally free?

Why do you willingly remain a citizen of a country that you so obviously hate?
Vendicar_Decarian
2.3 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
People do not pay taxes, Corporations do through the higher wages they must pay as demanded by their workers.

"Corporations do NOT pay taxes. Their customers do." - RyggTard

Poor RyggTard. He don't gots no clue.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.4 / 5 (5) Apr 29, 2012
Don't you willingly pay your taxes RyggTard? Or are you one of those criminal whack jobs who refuse and claim that taxes are unconstitutional, even though there is a provision in the constitution specifically authorizing them.

"For all you Apple customers, if you feel guilty you can certainly send a donation to California or any other govt you choose to do so." - RyggTard

If you hate your own country so much Tard Boy. Why are you a willing participant in it? Why don't you find somewhere else to live where you can be a free man?

Vendicar_Decarian
3.4 / 5 (5) Apr 29, 2012
Really?

"U.S. Apple product users split evenly between Republicans and Democrats"

http://macdailyne...product/

"Apple is a darling of the 'progressives'." - RyggTard

RyggTard has his opinions, and to him - as it is with all Libertarian/Randites opinion is reality, even when it contradicts reality.

Poor Ryggtard. Will his mental illness ever be cured?
Vendicar_Decarian
3.4 / 5 (5) Apr 29, 2012
I was once told by someone entering into a MBA course that it was.

"Searching for loopholes is a 'high ethical standard'?" - antialis

Her argument was that since the loopholes were manufactured, it was proper and ethical to use them since they were put there for a reason.

She failed to comprehend that the reason was corruption.

She was of course an example of pure unmitigated ignorance and pure unmitigated evil.

Since I was a younger man and less prone to correcting mistakes, I permitted her the luxury of continued breathing.

ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (1) Apr 29, 2012
"State and money matters have always been deeply intertwined--the idea that the market would regulate itself rose no sooner than the 18th century with Adam Smith's "invisible hand." We can learn from the past that people on the top were always keen on hiding and washing their hands while appropriating funds in the name of the country, sharing the debts with people at the bottom and privatizing the profits.

The enlightened policies of public artistic patronage like those of Cosimo and Lorenzo were a magnificent facade for their political success and survival--and ultimately for their financial failure."
http://www.forbes...tta.html

ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (4) Apr 29, 2012
"Choosing the right person as a manager is no less difficult than finding the right heir to the business or the reign."
http://www.forbes...tta.html
Funny, this is what the socialists say when it fails. They didn't find the perfect dictator to lead the party.
Which is why the US Constitution was an attempt to base a system of govt upon laws that did not depend upon the leaders being angels.
Capitalism, too, presumes its participants are not angels but are self interested in the success of the system.
antialias_physorg
4.5 / 5 (8) Apr 29, 2012
To be forced by the police power of the State to relinquish my assets, only to have those assets distributed to those who refuse, but are otherwise able, to work? Makes me want to hide everything I own, legally, or illegally, from the Tax Man.

But you gladly (ab)use all the stuff that is paid for by the taxes from other people (roads, health services, research that gave you the possibility to even buy ALL the technology you use, protection, legal system, clean water, ... )

You, sir, are the most selfish, greedy and egoistical being I have ever had the displeasure to respond to.

How dare others demand that you chip in and pull your weight in society and not just be a parasite. How dare they!

You are comitting exactly what you accuse others of: you want to have a socialist state in which others pay for YOU.

No dice.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
I have never encountered a Libertarian who wasn't exactly like him.

"You, sir, are the most selfish, greedy and egoistical being I have ever had the displeasure to respond to." - Antialias

Loathsome individuals... All of them chronic liars, and rotten to the core.
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (4) Apr 29, 2012
The question remains... If you hate your own country so much then why don't you just leave it and be as free as you like? What is it that you get from America that keeps you sucking on it's teat?

"Which is why the US Constitution was an attempt to base a system of govt upon laws that did not depend upon the leaders being angels." - RyggTard
kaasinees
2.3 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
Who are the real parasites in society?
The bureacrats/CEOs etc. that recieve ton/million bonusses each year.
Or the hardworking people or the people that want to work but are left to rot?
MorituriMax
3.4 / 5 (5) Apr 29, 2012
Until its illegal to pay no taxes in Nevada, its legal to pay no taxes in Nevada.

Instead of attacking apple, attack Nevada.

Apple provides quality products that millions of people use. It saves them money that Apple would have to add if they paid California (yeah CA should be more ashamed about how its managed the states money than Apple should feel about not feeding them more money to waste).

If California wants that revenue then they should figure out how to get Apple to WANT to come back to California.

Not to mention the jobs and other money Apple brings to California beyond the taxes.

Above all that, maybe people should be more pissed by the Trillions of dollars the government has flushed down the toilet than the billions Apple doesn't have to add to that flushing noise.
Vendicar_Decarian
2.3 / 5 (3) Apr 29, 2012
When a population becomes contaminated with the idea that self interest is the only interest then leaders chosen from among the people are chosen from a population who believes that self interest is the only interest.

Thus when leaders act exclusively with their own interests in mind, rather than the interests of the people, then it is due to
the ideology held by the people.

In this way Capitalism is self defeating.

Your own up is down liedeology is the ultimate origin of the very "problems" you chronically whine about and once again you will vote for another corrupt borrow and spend Republican president who
most closely shares your view that his self interest is in your best interest.

"Capitalism, too, presumes its participants are not angels but are self interested in the success of the system." - RyggTard

And that makes you one of the biggest fools who had ever existed.
Vendicar_Decarian
2.3 / 5 (3) Apr 29, 2012
Oh, please. Those who have all of the money are by definition superior to all the rest.

It is standard Libertarian doctrine. And hence the poor - who are by definition inferior - deserve nothing due to their inferiority.

"Or the hardworking people or the people that want to work but are left to rot?" - Kaas

Just ask Tard Boy.
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
I don't see apple being attacked here. They simply use the tools at hand to avoid paying taxes.

"Instead of attacking apple, attack Nevada." - Morit

Now if Americans are content to be gang raped by Apple, and other corporations, so be it. I can think of no one more deserving of a good gang rape than someone who is begging for it.

I say shaft the American people long and hard and for as long as possible.
kaasinees
3.3 / 5 (7) Apr 29, 2012
Paris Hilton is very intelligent and sexy, the money she has proves it.

/Sarcasm
Vendicar_Decarian
3.9 / 5 (7) Apr 29, 2012
Paris Hilton is vastly superior to RyggTard because she has vastly more money than he does.

One dollar, one vote is the basis of Libertarian paradise.

ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (9) Apr 29, 2012
Who are the real parasites in society?
The bureacrats/CEOs etc. that recieve ton/million bonusses each year.
Or the hardworking people or the people that want to work but are left to rot?

Amazing, kaas acknowledges socialism is parasitic.
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (9) Apr 29, 2012
stuff that is paid for by the taxes from other people

In the US, 50% pay NO income tax yet benefit from living in the USA.
People who use roads, directly or indirectly, pay user fees collected as fuel taxes.
So in the USA, the looters are those who pay NO income taxes yet benefit from living in the USA.
kaasinees
3.3 / 5 (9) Apr 29, 2012
Keep lying about socialism tardboy. It wont work.
ryggesogn2
1.5 / 5 (8) Apr 29, 2012
Keep lying about socialism tardboy. It wont work.

Data doesn't lie.
RealityCheck
2.3 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
Bear in mind that it is national/international corporations which effectively 'run' governments/economies for their own/investors' profit. So, it is somewhat foolish for those accusing govts of 'spending their money' support those who are not benefiting from the economic policies/activities of the corporation-controlled govts.

Bear in mind too that working middle class cannot afford 'tax-minimization' trusts,havens, redirections etc etc. So while the working middle class pay their proportionate taxes to keep the whole system going which the corporations exploit to make their profits, these same corporations can afford to maximize their profits even further by escaping the tax burden which the working middle class cannot. So the 'business opportunity field' which the middle class provides for the opportunities of corporations is abused by these tax-evasions.

Corporations 'love' socilaism when it suits them; but 'abhor' same when it benefit the little guys they exploit. Obviously. :)
RealityCheck
3 / 5 (10) Apr 29, 2012
In the US, 50% pay NO income tax yet benefit from living in the USA.
People who use roads, directly or indirectly, pay user fees collected as fuel taxes.
...


Curious.

First you say that 50% pay NO tax, and then you admit that they pay tax directly or indirectly as 'user fees' and 'fuel taxes' etc?

Strange argument there, mate. :)

So you see, even those at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder cannot escape paying their taxes; whilst corporations and the weaselly wealthy merely 'recoup' even these 'minor inconvenience' tax payments by further exploitation of the ordinary joe, and then make further profits on that exploitative gain by using tax evasion measures not available to the ordinary joe in order to make a mockery of their corporation/political 'high moral ground' about the 'ordinary joe being the problem'?

Obviously. :)

rwinners
5 / 5 (3) Apr 29, 2012
Another flower on the grave of Steve Jobs.
kaasinees
4.2 / 5 (5) Apr 29, 2012
I hope the EU demands their share as they did with Microsoft.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.3 / 5 (8) Apr 29, 2012
But you do 24/7.

"Data doesn't lie." - RyggTard

Capitalism as described above, is the reason for the ongoing collapse of the failed American state.
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
Liar. Liar. Pants on fire.

"In the US, 50% pay NO income tax yet benefit from living in the USA." - RyggTard

RyggTard spouts off a common Libertarian Meme, but the truth is that Republicans have exempted them from paying federal taxes so that they could pass massively larger tax cuts for the wealthy and their corporate constituents.

This 50% still pays state income taxes of course, as well as all sales taxes.

I have never encountered a Libertarian who wasn't a congenital and perpetual liar. RyggTard is no exception to that rule.

Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (6) Apr 29, 2012
Fuel taxes go into the general fund from which all payments are made.

Not only are they fuel taxes not allocated for road maintenance, they are entirely inadequate in size to pay for road maintenance.

"People who use roads, directly or indirectly, pay user fees collected as fuel taxes." - RyggTard

So once again we find a Libertarian who is not willing to pay his share of maintaining the social system that he benefits from.

His demands are as always that he should be allowed to become a parasite, sucking on the teat of American Society.
rwinners
not rated yet Apr 29, 2012
Actually, road maintenance is due, by and large, to the use of our highways by heavy vehicles. Second is weather. Lastly is lil old automobiles. Move all the truck traffic to rails and our infrastructure costs will drop dramatically. Think how much longer our roads would last!
MorituriMax
2.3 / 5 (3) Apr 29, 2012
"In this way Capitalism is self defeating."

Good thing there are 5 other ways it is not self defeating.
MorituriMax
2.3 / 5 (3) Apr 29, 2012
Vendicar,
Capitalism as described above, is the reason for the ongoing collapse of the failed American state.

Wah wah wah, show me a system that works better than Capitalism, or better than any of the other failed systems throughout history.

Come on, describe for us a system that would work PERFECTLY.

Nothing is perfect except on paper or in ivory towers, show me one single system that will work better than capitalism that hasn't failed more spectacularly than "Make something that everyone wants, sell it, be better off financially than the asshole who sits on his couch all day long."
rwinners
5 / 5 (2) Apr 29, 2012
All taxes are paid by you and me, not corporations.
The problem isn't just wage inequity, it is WEALTH inequity. Smart lawyers and greedy people manage to aggregate wealth an pass it on to future generations of their own families, even if those individuals are idiots.
Given this, only one thing is certain: those rich kids will do their utmost to keep and grow their wealth, regardless of need. I doubt that this inclination is done out of greed, or perhaps, it is done out of greed... for power.
kochevnik
4.2 / 5 (5) Apr 29, 2012
@ryggesogn2 Data doesn't lie.
No it doesn't. That's why Koch brothers need libertarians.
nuge
3 / 5 (2) Apr 30, 2012
Remind me again why everyone loves this company?
Vendicar_Decarian
2.6 / 5 (5) Apr 30, 2012
America is dying of cancer and the denialist finds optimism in the fact that there are 5 other forms of cancer that it isn't dying from.

Well done MoriTard.

"Good thing there are 5 other ways it is not self defeating." - Morit
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (6) Apr 30, 2012
All over the world, mixed socialist economies are doing better than the failed and bankrupt American state. To the extent that Europe is in trouble it is due to it's adoption of U.S. Capitalism as a model.

"Wah wah wah, show me a system that works better than Capitalism, or better than any of the other failed systems throughout history" - MoriTard
kochevnik
5 / 5 (4) Apr 30, 2012
Why SHOULD Apple pay US taxes? Many governments much more deserving with better business environments. It's a multinational in name only. Apple could dump US headquarters entirely and no hipster wold even blink.
MorituriMax
1 / 5 (1) Apr 30, 2012
nuge
Remind me again why everyone loves this company?

Because they sell products that everyone who buys them wants, and they work, and they set the standards. Anybody else got a battery that's anywhere in the neighborhood of their iPad3 battery?
kaasinees
2 / 5 (4) Apr 30, 2012
Why SHOULD Apple pay US taxes? Many governments much more deserving with better business environments. It's a multinational in name only. Apple could dump US headquarters entirely and no hipster wold even blink.

Because the US can ban their products and no hipster would blink.
kochevnik
5 / 5 (2) May 01, 2012
Why SHOULD Apple pay US taxes? Many governments much more deserving with better business environments. It's a multinational in name only. Apple could dump US headquarters entirely and no hipster wold even blink.

Because the US can ban their products and no hipster would blink.
No it can't. US has all those multilateral trade agreements and the WTO to answer to. Any unilateral action risks the outbreak of a trade war and a downgrade of the bond market, which is the only thing keeping the US afloat (By way of the petrodollar). Nation states are slaves to the corporation, which in turn are slaves to the market.

***In above post I meant "It's a multinational, US in name only."
kaasinees
3 / 5 (4) May 01, 2012
Then the US just starts trading with with non WTO countries which are currently dominating the market anyway.
99% of the apple hardware is samsung or some other asian semiconductor company.

Also cuba is doing pretty good feeding their people (much better than the USA anyway 15% of americans in the US are food insecure).
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (2) May 01, 2012
Also cuba is doing pretty good feeding their people

What does 'pretty good' mean?

"Cubans are now able to open up private though heavily taxed and regulated restaurants and guesthouses. Frequented by tourists, these businesses bring in valuable currency, and frees the Cuban government of nearly 371,000 people from its payroll. These steps towards capitalism may be slow, however, they could soften the economic blow if Chávezs successor drastically cuts investment in Cuba."
http://www.csmoni...age%29/2
Every time socialism fails, they grudge allow people to work for themselves.
USSR alleviated starvation when they allowed people to raise food for themselves and SELL the surplus.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (1) May 01, 2012
Apple could dump US headquarters entirely and no hipster wold even blink.

Why haven't they done so?
Haliburton moved to Dubai.
kochevnik
not rated yet May 02, 2012
Apple could dump US headquarters entirely and no hipster wold even blink.
@ryggesogn2 Why haven't they done so?
Haliburton moved to Dubai.
Fair question. I think the Apple brand launders goods and profits from price markups. Americans feel they're buying American although the reality is quite another. For that reason alone Apple has an interest maintaining Cupertino headquarters. Americans feel a slight discomfort with foreign brands, and the Apple brand allows the consumer to rationalize this cognitive dissonance, even while the underlying good is completely foreign. The same thing happens in California, where Israelis telemarket people nonstop about home remodels, then bring in Mexican illegal subcontractors to do the actual work while getting a clean 50% cut of the action. Marketing has a new function in 2012: repackaging foreign goods as domestic at fantastic markups.
kochevnik
not rated yet May 02, 2012
Then the US just starts trading with with non WTO countries which are currently dominating the market anyway.
If the US does such a thing it risks a trade war. By repackaging foreign products and effectively being a foreign corporation itself, Apple allows the US to keep a positive beachhead in the electronics market ON PAPER even while it flat out lost the market to offshore competitors a decade ago.

Also cuba is doing pretty good feeding their people (much better than the USA anyway 15% of americans in the US are food insecure).
No argument there. Only problem is that Castro and Stalin were catholic Jesuit trained, so they would happily kill non-catholics as Stalin did starving 30million Orthodox in Ukraine. They're right-wing dictators, not liberals. US can't just starve heretics outright it needs feral capitalism. In a manner of speaking the poor are the new heretics in the US, as they fail to succeed in Darwinian capitalism. It's religion monetized.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (1) May 02, 2012
Americans feel they're buying American although the reality is quite another.

I don't think Apple-ites really care about 'buying American' as it is well documented the i-xxx are made in China.
Castro and Stalin were catholic Jesuit trained,

They must not have listened very well in class. And they were/are socialists.
MorituriMax
not rated yet May 02, 2012
ryggesogn2
Apple could dump US headquarters entirely and no hipster wold even blink.

Why haven't they done so?
Haliburton moved to Dubai.

Haliburton was the worst performing branch of that company, bad example.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (1) May 02, 2012
ryggesogn2
Apple could dump US headquarters entirely and no hipster wold even blink.

Why haven't they done so?
Haliburton moved to Dubai.

Haliburton was the worst performing branch of that company, bad example.

It is an example of a major corporation moving its corporate offices out of the USA.
Apple can move anywhere it chooses. Why has it not done so?
MorituriMax
not rated yet May 02, 2012
Apple is a company whose business is to sell devices and make money.

Their business isn't to structure themselves to pay the most taxes possible. Like any business, they use the existing legal system to legally reduce their costs and taxes wherever they can.

What's moral about them giving more of their money to the government? Do you know ANYONE that goes out of their way to pay the government more money than they have to?

It is an example of a major corporation moving its corporate offices out of the USA. Apple can move anywhere it chooses. Why has it not done so?

Is there some reason they should? They seem to think they're doing fine just the way they are. I'm sure if it was more to their advantage and it was legal they would move. Since they haven't they must know something about their business that you do not.
ryggesogn2
2 / 5 (4) May 02, 2012
Is there some reason they should?

kaas seems to think so.

I agree, they will move if they can profit from the move.
indio007
1 / 5 (1) May 02, 2012
Did you lunkheads forget that Apple was caught price fixing?
Did you forget that Apple is majority owned by Microsoft because of a 100 million infusion of cash when they were on the verge of bankruptcy?
Did you forget that Microsoft started by ripping off other people's code to make DOS?
A monopoly that beget a monopoly begotten from plagarizing.

Yes they are innovators of the kleptocracy!

Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (2) May 03, 2012
The only starvation in the Soviet Union came at the founding of the union. It is analogous to the starvation of the native American Population by Americans during the founding of the USA.

"USSR alleviated starvation when they allowed people to raise food for themselves and SELL the surplus." - RyggTard

The last famine in the Soviet Union occurred in 1946-1947 and was primarily a result of poor grain harvests and a lack of able bodied men and machinery to assist in the fields, as they had largely been killed in WWII.

That is the extent to which Russia sacrificed in the fight against NAZI Corporatism. The core ideology that RyggTard supports.
Vendicar_Decarian
5 / 5 (2) May 03, 2012
I am unaware of this. DOS is mostly a product of Digitial Research, coded by Gary Kildall, and sold to Microsoft for a song.

"Did you forget that Microsoft started by ripping off other people's code to make DOS?" - Indio000

Microsoft took Kildall's OS, slightly modified it - primarily adding a FAT based file system, and sold it as DOS.

Where was the theft of code?
Vendicar_Decarian
5 / 5 (2) May 03, 2012
As I have asked you numerous times due to your childish whining about your government's taxation policy.

You can move anywhere you choose. Why have you not done so?

"Apple can move anywhere it chooses. Why has it not done so?" - RyggTard
ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (3) May 03, 2012
Did you lunkheads forget that Apple was caught price fixing?
Did you forget that Apple is majority owned by Microsoft because of a 100 million infusion of cash when they were on the verge of bankruptcy?
Did you forget that Microsoft started by ripping off other people's code to make DOS?
A monopoly that beget a monopoly begotten from plagarizing.

Yes they are innovators of the kleptocracy!


Don't buy their products.
aironeous
3.7 / 5 (3) May 05, 2012
When you are a dishonest company abusing capitalism overcharging for your products and using very low payed labor and playing whack a mole with US taxes and paying your CEO 387 million you cannot complain when everyone is counterfeiting and jailbreaking your product. You have no moral basis to judge anyone.
I WILL NEVER AND HAVE NEVER BOUGHT AN APPLE PRODUCT.
MorituriMax
1 / 5 (1) May 05, 2012
When you are a dishonest company abusing capitalism overcharging for your products and using very low payed labor and playing whack a mole with US taxes and paying your CEO 387 million you cannot complain when everyone is counterfeiting and jailbreaking your product. You have no moral basis to judge anyone.
I WILL NEVER AND HAVE NEVER BOUGHT AN APPLE PRODUCT.

Here's a little clue, try fact checking some of the claims made in the article that birthed this article. The financials are a few years out of date, from a time when Apple was making a hell of a lot less money.