Weird weather: heat, twisters, 250K tons of snow

Mar 16, 2012 By SETH BORENSTEIN , AP Science Writer
In this combination photo, Doug Hamrick shovels snow off of his family's roof in Anchorage, Alaska on Thursday, Jan. 12, 2012, left, and Katie Cramer looks over the front of her destroyed house in Dexter, Mich. on Friday, March 16, 2012 after a tornado touched down on Thursday night. America's weather is stuck on extreme. Nearly 11 feet of snow has fallen on Anchorage this winter, where the city has already hauled away 250,000 tons of snow. Yet not much snow dropped on the Lower 48. The first three months of the year have seen twice the normal number of tornadoes, killing 55 people. And 36 states broke or tied daily high temperature records on Thursday, March 15, 2012. (AP Photo/Loren Holmes, Carlos Osorio)

(AP) -- America's weather is stuck on extreme.

Nearly 11 feet of snow has fallen on Anchorage, Alaska, this winter. That's almost a record, and it's forcing the city to haul away at least 250,000 tons of snow. Yet not much snow has dropped on the Lower 48 this year.

The first three months of 2012 have seen twice the normal number of tornadoes. And 36 states set daily high temperature records Thursday. So far this month, the U.S. has set 1,757 daily high temperature records. That's similar to the number during last summer's heat wave, said Jake Crouch, a for the .

Six rare, but not unprecedented, March tornadoes struck Thursday in Michigan, which also set 26 heat records. Temperatures were in the 80s in some parts of the state.

Nationwide, there have been 132 tornadoes confirmed in January and February, with preliminary reports of more than 150 already in March.

Two different - La Nina and its northern cousin the - shift storm and temperature patterns through the world, meteorologists say. Scientists say you cannot link a single to global warming.

However, climate scientist Andrew Weaver of the University of Victoria says: "When you start to see the extreme events become more common, that's when you can say that it is a consequence of global warming."

Explore further: Global consumption an increasingly significant driver of tropical deforestation

More information: NOAA list of daily high temperature records set or broken Thursday: http://1.usa.gov/A1823b

NOAA tornado statistics so far: http://1.usa.gov/wOrOsb

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Sanescience
1 / 5 (3) Mar 16, 2012
Queue the righteous indignation of "fanatics" and "deniers". I suspect ultimately the fate of civilization is going to be population density and its distribution.
Callippo
1.7 / 5 (6) Mar 16, 2012
The global whether is driven with convective cells and its quantized, because the number of cells must fit the whole number. The global warming switches the horizontal circulation of atmosphere into vertical one, thus making the global whether unstable. We could face the sudden increase of number of convective cells. Such a change cannot be a gradualist process, but quantized process.
RitchieGuy
1.1 / 5 (12) Mar 16, 2012
I've noticed in the last several days and weeks since the solar flares that there are days when the sun seems to be lighting up the outdoors far brighter than normal. More like white light that hurts the eyes. Or maybe my eyes are just being more sensitive?
Callippo
2 / 5 (8) Mar 16, 2012
When the Sun is active it has a higher number of sun spots and emits more solar wind - a continuous stream of very high-speed charged particles. The increased solar wind and magnetic field repels cosmic rays that otherwise would hit the Earth's atmosphere, resulting in less aerosols in the lower atmosphere thereby reducing low cloud formation. From this correlation of cosmic ray flux and temperature changes with galactic arm crossings follows too. The days of bright sky, which we experience in these days at central Europe could therefore have an origin in recent flares, too.
Vendicar_Decarian
1.1 / 5 (48) Mar 16, 2012
You also noticed that Spain was close to the equator, and that was childishly false as well.

Perhaps if you visited the toilet more often your mental problems wold clear up.

"I've noticed in the last several days and weeks since the solar flares that there are days when the sun seems to be lighting up the outdoors far brighter than normal" - RichieTard
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Vendicar_Decarian
1.1 / 5 (47) Mar 17, 2012
No one is ignoring the sun Tard Boy.

But you are ignoring the constant satellite monitoring of the sun.

Laughable.

Perhaps you would like to throw up the "Mars is warming too" canard at this point.

No wait. It's not the sun, it's extraterrestrial volcanoes as one of your Denialist Brethren proclaimed.

Morons.

RitchieGuy
1.3 / 5 (15) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard says:
You also noticed that Spain was close to the equator, and that was childishly false as well.

Perhaps if you visited the toilet more often your mental problems wold clear up.

"I've noticed in the last several days and weeks since the solar flares that there are days when the sun seems to be lighting up the outdoors far brighter than normal" - RichieTard


Ah. . .poor Venditard. . .a small lapse of geographical memory always sends him into a tizzy. So the equator goes through the midsection of Africa, so what? Southern Spain is STILL closer to the equator than, say, Denmark or Finland.
Venditard has some toilet trauma issues. His mama flushed his poop away before he was finished pooping and he hated her because he really wanted to put it in a box and keep it by his bed.
Poor Venditard says that if a climatologist says it's snowing outside, that means the Earth is warming and it's safe to go out in the snow in short shirt-sleeves and a bikini bottom.
RitchieGuy
1.3 / 5 (14) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard now doubles down on the sun being brighter due to solar flares hitting the Earth, exclaiming that it's man-caused sunlight and that volcanoes don't erupt and produce CO2 gas and methane like his little bathtub experiment in which he sits in a bathtub full of salty water and lets loose a fart or 2, then waits to see if the bubbles rise so he can give the bubbles a nose test. It is evident that he has done the nose test once too often when the bubbles of CO2 and methane rose, just like the bubbles of CO 2 that float upwards from a volcanic hydrothermal vent in the ocean to acidify the waters.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.9 / 5 (42) Mar 17, 2012
Benni
1.4 / 5 (10) Mar 17, 2012
.....it seems that many have never noticed, but Earth's climate has been like this (constantly changing) for hundreds of millions or even billions of years.

It's a shame man wasn't present on earth during the time of the dinosaurs. If we had been, then I think our present day Climatology Science could have saved them & look what we could be enjoying today, instead of chasing deer & racoons out of our backyard gardens we could be chasing around 3 story high 100 footlong dinos. I can only dream how much fun that would have been........
Callippo
2.4 / 5 (5) Mar 17, 2012
Russian secret service blamed for hack

For a start, the hacked data apparently surfaced on the server of a Russian internet security company based in the Siberian city of Tomsk, where the FSB has an office. And the FSB, argues Walker, is notorious for grooming hackers and launching cyber attacks.

What's more, by keeping the Arctic Circumpolar Seas ice-free all year round, climate change will unlock Russia's enormous and lucrative reserves of fossil fuel. The suggestion is that Russia will welcome this effect of global warming.

Russia not only had the capacity to carry out the hacking job, it also has a motive, as nations rich in fossil fuels will be penalized by any post-Kyoto agreement that seeks to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, suggests Walker.
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.3 / 5 (10) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard now doubles down on the sun being brighter due to solar flares hitting the Earth, exclaiming that it's man-caused sunlight and that volcanoes don't erupt and produce CO2 gas and methane like his little bathtub experiment in which he sits in a bathtub full of salty water and lets loose a fart or 2, then waits to see if the bubbles rise so he can give the bubbles a nose test. It is evident that he has done the nose test once too often when the bubbles of CO2 and methane rose, just like the bubbles of CO 2 that float upwards from a volcanic hydrothermal vent in the ocean to acidify the waters.
Sorry ritchie youve been reported again for offensive language, pointless verbiage, being egregiously off-topic, lying through your teeth, and demeaning this site by treating it like a chatroom. Go back to 4chan will you?
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.5 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
Southern Spain is STILL closer to the equator than, say, Denmark or Finland.
And outright, baldfaced stupidity.

HOW are you converting your sweet sorghum into ethanol when even the university of arizona cannot do this? HOW do you see glassy-headed aliens walking around on mars when you dont even know the difference between oblique and overhead camera angles? HOW do you even manage to dress yourself in the morning??

People need answers to these questions ritchie.
Shootist
3 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
Weird weather: heat, twisters, 250K tons of snow

(AP) -- America's weather is stuck on extreme.


The press doesn't have an agenda, number 76.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (7) Mar 17, 2012
GhostofShitto is so obsessed with me that he/she/it cannot even comprehend the difference between arable land (which I own) and semi-arid desert (which the University of Arizona owns) and instead of sticking to the topic of weird weather, it wants my attention to its immediate concerns about that which is my business and not anyone else's. GhostofShitto falsely believes itself to be the gateway to Physorg threads and nobody gets past that gateway except by its permission.
This GhostofShitto person really should stop obsessing about me as I've already replied to its PMs that I am not interested in its sexual advances. Personal attacks and attacks on my comments that have to do with the topic of the article is what gives Physorg's commentary sections a bad name amongst researchers and scientists.
I do wish that TheGhostofShitto would go back to its homoerotic websites and stop pestering me and others as though it has the right to intrude on my life and the lives of others in Physorg.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
The agenda of the press is to make money. That is the exclusive amoral agenda of every corporation.

The agenda of the writers is to produce stories that people read.

Faux news - like the Conservative press - is different of course.

Here is a fine example of their outright lies.

http://www.youtub...RV-UTs9o
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
A fine example of how the Conservative media works.

"Under the tax plan passed by the last administration, taxes are scheduled to go up substantially next year. For everybody." - Obama

Fox news reports that Obama stated the following.

"Taxes are scheduled to go up substantially next year. For everybody." - Faux news dishonestly and treasonously claiming what Obama said.

http://www.youtub...RV-UTs9o

I have never encountered a Conservative who wasn't a congenital and perpetual liar.

Faux news is their number one choice for lies.

RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (9) Mar 17, 2012
Shootist says:
Weird weather: heat, twisters, 250K tons of snow

(AP) -- America's weather is stuck on extreme.


The press doesn't have an agenda, number 76.


The fact that yet another company that Obama allowed the Dept. of Energy to invest in (Abound Solar Manufacturing) has failed and the money gone with the wind (or sun?) makes it almost impossible to believe that taxpayer money is being invested for REAL GW issues. It is too strange that company after company has gone bankrupt and no money has been returned to the Treasury.
One has to wonder where has all the money gone? Certainly it didn't go to the layed off workers.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
Richie Tard Boy caught in a lie tries to change the subject.

"GhostofShitto is so obsessed with me that he/she/it cannot even comprehend the difference between arable land (which I own) and semi-arid desert (which the University of Arizona owns)" - Richie Tard

HOW are you converting your sweet sorghum into ethanol when even the university of arizona cannot do this?

Poor Richie Tard. Otto isn't asking how you intend to grow the sorghum. He is asking how you intend to convert it when a university cannot do so.

Remember. Try to respond without lying.
ryggesogn2
1.8 / 5 (10) Mar 17, 2012
"That's almost a record..."

When was the record set and how long have records been kept?

"Six rare, but not unprecedented, March tornadoes struck Thursday in Michigan,... "

When was the precedent set?

I have heard of snow in July in SD.

AGWites are so short sighted.
RitchieGuy
1.5 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard says:
The agenda of the press is to make money. That is the exclusive amoral agenda of every corporation.

The agenda of the writers is to produce stories that people read.

Faux news - like the Conservative press - is different of course.

Here is a fine example of their outright lies.

http://www.youtub...RV-UTs9o


Venditard. . .WHEN are you going to recognize the fact that making money is what is necessary in this world for survival and to buy goods and services? OK. . .let me put it this way. . .when is the last time that you were GIVEN goods and services by smiling at the clerk and showing your big mouthful of teeth as payment, huh?
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
"The fact that yet another company that Obama allowed the Dept. of Energy to invest in (Abound Solar Manufacturing) has failed" - Richie Tard

Together Solyndra and Abound solar have cost Richie Tard 3 whole dollars.

Abound Solar suspends production, lays off 180

http://gigaom.com...off-180/

The Chinese are playing the solar cell production game to win.

Repubicans like RichieTard feel that it would be best if America just cut and run from the technological marketplace and focus on improved corporate profits from the movement of American manufacturing and services jobs to the rest of the world.

It is a good plan if you are an American Traitor.

RitchieGuy
1.5 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard says:
Richie Tard Boy caught in a lie tries to change the subject.

"GhostofShitto is so obsessed with me that he/she/it cannot even comprehend the difference between arable land (which I own) and semi-arid desert (which the University of Arizona owns)" - Richie Tard

HOW are you converting your sweet sorghum into ethanol when even the university of arizona cannot do this?

Poor Richie Tard. Otto isn't asking how you intend to grow the sorghum. He is asking how you intend to convert it when a university cannot do so.

Remember. Try to respond without lying.


Oh poor Venditard doesn't understand that biofuel from sweet sorghum has already been made in the southern states on arable land. Tch tch. . .the project that the U of A is doing is to research the good possibility that sweet sorghum will grow in semi-arid deserts, which is land that is for the most part unpopulated. . .it's extra land that can be put to good use for growing plants to make biofuel,
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (9) Mar 17, 2012
Biofuel from sweet sorghum is already a reality.

And again I ask: Venditard. . .WHEN are you going to recognize the fact that making money is what is necessary in this world for survival and to buy goods and services? OK. . .let me put it this way. . .when is the last time that you were GIVEN goods and services by smiling at the clerk and showing your big mouthful of teeth as payment, huh?
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
"I have heard of snow in July in SD." - RyggTard

I've heard conservatives claim that they were rectally probed during an alien abduction.

Let us know when, in a year without winter, there is snow in July and large outbreaks of tornadoes in early February - caused by excessively warm air causing violent storms.

The weather certainly is getting quite unusual.

Climate models have long predicted exactly that.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
Straw man RichieTard strikes again.

Changing the subject whenever his deceit is exposed.

"WHEN are you going to recognize the fact that making money is what is necessary in this world for survival and to buy goods and services?" - Richie Tard
RitchieGuy
1.5 / 5 (10) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard says:
""The Chinese are playing the solar cell production game to win.

Repubicans like RichieTard feel that it would be best if America just cut and run from the technological marketplace and focus on improved corporate profits from the movement of American manufacturing and services jobs to the rest of the world.""

Why Vendi. . .I didn't know that you cared that much about American manufacturing jobs and profit that you are concerned about those jobs going to the rest of the world? How kind.

BTW. . .the Chinese only care about the Chinese and the Communist system with Capitalism playing a slighty minor role to keep the citizens happy and peaceful. Without that little bit of Capitalsm, the rulers in China will be decapitated. Chinese solar cell production is still in the early stages and their hackers, et al will steal western technology like they always do
Vendicar_Decarian
0.6 / 5 (40) Mar 17, 2012
And now Richie Tard changes his tune again. Now avoiding the claim that he will use sorghum for alcohol production to simply "biofuel."

Tell us Richie Tard. What commercial plants for the production of alcohol from sorghum currently exist in the U.S.?

"Oh poor Venditard doesn't understand that biofuel from sweet sorghum has already been made in the southern states on arable land." - RichieTard
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (10) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard. . .kindly answer my question. when is the last time that you were able to purchase goods and services by paying your bill with a big smile showing your big teeth at the clerk?
That must mean that you don't believe in money aka profit.
Perhaps you would prefer a barter system or blinding the checkout clerk with the whites of your eyes?
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard exclaims:
And now Richie Tard changes his tune again. Now avoiding the claim that he will use sorghum for alcohol production to simply "biofuel."

Tell us Richie Tard. What commercial plants for the production of alcohol from sorghum currently exist in the U.S.?

"Oh poor Venditard doesn't understand that biofuel from sweet sorghum has already been made in the southern states on arable land." - RichieTard


There are mills that process sweet sorghum to make ethanol aka biofuel. There are other places that store the sugars to ferment in the making of ethanol.

Now why does it seem to upset you that I am growing sweet sorghum for the first time this year to make ethanol for my own use? Your seeming jealousy is very unbecoming.
I have no obligation to explain my methods and my agenda to you. You haven't even answered MY question as to how you pay your goods and services bills
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (10) Mar 17, 2012
@Venditard. . .perhaps you pay your goods and services bills with. . . . .money?
Oh, the horror!!
You might like to try growing sweet sorghum also for ethanol. . .that would make you really popular in AGW circles.
RitchieGuy
1.4 / 5 (10) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard says:

"I have heard of snow in July in SD." - RyggTard

I've heard conservatives claim that they were rectally probed during an alien abduction.

Let us know when, in a year without winter, there is snow in July and large outbreaks of tornadoes in early February - caused by excessively warm air causing violent storms.

The weather certainly is getting quite unusual.

Climate models have long predicted exactly that.


As I was saying earlier before I was rudely interrupted.

"I've noticed in the last several days and weeks since the solar flares that there are days when the sun seems to be lighting up the outdoors far brighter than normal. More like white light that hurts the eyes. Or maybe my eyes are just being more sensitive?"

It is, of course, the solar flares that are causing this problem, as professed by Callippo.
This MIGHT explain the brightness I saw. But as of today, the effect is gone.

http://www.youtub...rTmvCsr0
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
I'm a socialist Tard Boy. I care about everyone. Including those who need immediate execution for the commission of crimes against humanity.

"I didn't know that you cared that much about American manufacturing jobs and profit that you are concerned about those jobs going to the rest of the world? How kind." - RichieTard

It is funny how Conservatives like yourself are unwittingly doing my bidding regarding the destruction of your own nation, and yet i spend my time exposing you as hypocrites, traitors, and liars.

You see, I loath hypocrites and liars even more than I loath the enemy that you have made your nation into.

Funny, isn't it?
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
"Venditard. . .kindly answer my question. when is the last time that you were able to purchase goods and services by paying your bill with a big smile showing your big teeth at the clerk?" - RichieTard

15 minutes ago.

But I normally go through the self check. Corporations feel that clerks are a burden, a cost, and feel that reducing their numbers is a fine way to increase profits.

So it is often hard to find a clerk these days.

Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012

That's right Tard boy, you can see the extreme ultraviolet and X-rays emitted by solar flares.

And at night when the sun goes down you can see the neutrino's that pass through the earth.

"I've noticed in the last several days and weeks since the solar flares that there are days when the sun seems to be lighting up the outdoors far brighter than normal. More like white light that hurts the eyes. Or maybe my eyes are just being more sensitive?" - RyggTard

Tarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
"@Venditard. . .perhaps you pay your goods and services bills with. . . . .money?" - RichieTard

The exchange of labor, items or services for money is not in itself bad. The problem comes when money is elevated to Godhood by followers of the Conservative and Libertarian political ideologies along with the accumulation of vast quantities of money through actions other than production for the purpose of controlling and enslaving others along with the development of a social order based on the exaltation of greed and the inevitable training of the population - through corporate advertising propaganda - to value that which maximizes corporate profits at the expense of the greater social good, even to the point where the very existence of society and nature is threatened.

Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (39) Mar 17, 2012
You might tell us what alcohol production facilities exist in the U.S. that are using sorghum as a feedstock.

What is your delay in doing so?

"You might like to try growing sweet sorghum also for ethanol. . .that would make you really popular in AGW circles." - RichieTard
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.5 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
biofuel from sweet sorghum has already been made in the southern states on arable land.
Sorry no offense you dimwit but I think we need a link?

I can't find ANY refs to ongoing commercial production - only stuff like this:

"Dear SSEA Members:
As your board, we are committed to updating and re-launching our association in 2012.   At our annual meeting, we were treated to many great lectures and confirmation of what we already knew; sweet sorghum is the most magnificent photosynthetic machine on the planet earth. 
Momentum is building and several large commercial sweet sorghum operations are getting underway.  There are still several governmental barriers that need to be overcome..." etc
TheGhostofOtto1923
3.9 / 5 (7) Mar 17, 2012
I do see this statement on the wiki page

"Grain sorghum has been utilized by the ethanol industry for quite some time..."

-but this is very suspicious as it is tied to a dead link. Might some Martian glasshead have put it there? Perhaps. Also I see more research at Texas A&M. But no production. Think you can help us out Ritchie?
nkalanaga
5 / 5 (1) Mar 17, 2012
Snow in July in South Dakota isn't unheard of. The higher elevations of the Black Hills can have snow any day of the year. Summer snow doesn't stick around long, but it can fall there.
nkalanaga
5 / 5 (1) Mar 17, 2012
Grain sorghum has been used for making ethanol for generations in Appalachia. It's called moonshine, and works as well in cars as it does for drinking.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.5 / 5 (38) Mar 18, 2012
Here is a picture of RichieTard brewing up some of his car fuel. It's gonna gets em to the howdown on time for the pig tossen.

http://www.awesom...hine.jpg
Vendicar_Decarian
0.4 / 5 (37) Mar 18, 2012
This weeks daily highs.

21'C, 18'C, 21'C, 23'C, 23'C, 15'C, 13'C

Normal highs for this date 5'C

The entire winter has gone AWOL.

No one has ever seen anything like it.

And this will be the typical winter in 10 to 15 years.

The earth is rapidly warming.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2012
In the 70s, in SD, my dad used to plant oats and it was quite common to plant oats in early April. The soil wasn't usually warm enough for corn until May.
Things change, soybeans and corn replaced oats and the fields were usually too wet to plant in April.
I also recall a 50 deg day in late Feb during the late 60s in SD.
Great plains weather is quite unpredictable but I suspect follows long term treads. A warm,early spring will likely mean an early frost in Aug and likely cold -30F winters, again.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.4 / 5 (37) Mar 18, 2012
"In the 70s, in SD, my dad used to plant oats and it was quite common to plant oats in early April." - RyggTard

This year he could have planted in late February.

"Things change" - RyggTard

Yes, Winter becomes Summer and Summer becomes Winter all the time.

"I also recall a 50 deg day in late Feb during the late 60s" - RyggTard

We had a couple of weeks of 50 temps this year, and I don't remember a daytime high below freezing.

January was similar.

There was simply no winter in the lower 50 states this year and that is completely unprecedented.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.4 / 5 (37) Mar 18, 2012
"A warm,early spring will likely mean an early frost in Aug " - RyggTard

That is right. If you roll a 6 it is more likely that you will get a 1 on the next roll.

Averages work that way don't they?
TheGhostofOtto1923
3 / 5 (6) Mar 18, 2012
Here is a picture of RichieTard brewing up some of his car fuel. It's gonna gets em to the howdown on time for the pig tossen.

http://www.awesom...hine.jpg
HawHawHaw good one.
This MIGHT explain the brightness I saw. But as of today, the effect is gone.
Perhaps your hangover just wore off? Youre not supposed to drink the stuff. You put it in your gas tank. This is why da revenooers require much paperwork and permitting to produce and store ethanol.

Ritchie is a liar when he says he is participating in a sweet sorghum ethanol co-op, as the means to produce said stuff does not yet exist.

Unless you can produce links to hard evidence which proves otherwise? Ritchie?

I assume that this was an idea that cropped up in the parking lot of a Tractor Supply store one friday night. While passing the jug around. Sweet sorghum IS good for something I suppose.

DTs would also explain ritchies 'inconsistancies'. And incontinence (Im guessing.)
julianpenrod
1 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2012
Before the Seventies or Eighties, there were no references even to el Nino in the general corporate controlled "news" media. The Southern Oscillation began to see mention in the Nineties. Now, the "Arcitc Oscillation". Even PhysOrg doesn't have a reference before March 2011, and, except for that, the mentionings were all this year. Frankly, it has all the appearance of a gratuitous piling up of verbage to convince the unwitting that these are all natural events previously known about and only acting a little strangely now. In fact, they are all evidently covers for chemtrailing, contaminating the atmosphere with weather control chemicals. And, yes, el Nino was mentioned before 1997 when chemtrails were first acknowledged, but, in fact, chemtrails seem to have been carried out since about 1950, it was only in 1997 that they attained saturation so new chemicals precipitated out.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.4 / 5 (37) Mar 18, 2012
Yes, the Illuminati, bigfoot and the grey aliens forbade it.

"Before the Seventies or Eighties, there were no references even to el Nino in the general corporate controlled "news" media." - Foofie
julianpenrod
1 / 5 (4) Mar 18, 2012
Notice Vendicar Decarian's utilization of New World Order techniques like using mockery instead of actually discussing a subject. And note Vendicare Decarian not offering anything like an attempt at explaining "el Nino" not being mentioned until the Eighties, the "Southern Oscillation" not being mentioned until the Nineties, and the "Arctic Oscillation" not being mentioned until now. But, then, there are those who think just name calling and arrogance and getting the last word, even if it means just tossing out doggerel like, "I still don't believe you", proves you're right.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.4 / 5 (37) Mar 19, 2012
The NSA Is Building the Countrys Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)

http://www.wired....acenter/

It is called Bigfoot and it's construction is done to serve you better. Snicker.

And what are you going to do about it Foofie?

Nothing. You are powerless to stop us.

"Notice Vendicar Decarian's utilization of New World Order techniques like using mockery instead of actually discussing a subject" - Foofie
rubberman
3.4 / 5 (5) Mar 19, 2012
Spend a fabulous March weekend gardening in 25 degree temperatures with the kids and come back to vertical convective weather cells ( loss of the jetstreams ) Chemtrails (lucy in the sky with diamonds) and sweet sorghum Jesus, we drank the fuel again! At least fall is going to happen in august this year...barring any interference from the socialists...I'm goin back to my hoe, hopefully I don't wander into a ground level chemtrail on the way to the back garden and spontaneously combust and freeze solid at the same time.....I will become ICEFLAME, and blaze on as a flaming trip hazard.
I'm sure this whole "wierd weather" thing is just an overstated, temporary occurence which falls well within the realm of natural variability anyways...it was way warmer when the dinosaurs were here....and in the MWP and Roman warm periods...and in July of 2011 in Oklahoma. Don't fret my friends, everything is just fine.