Obama urges end to US reliance on foreign energy

Mar 17, 2012
US President Barack Obama has called for an end to America's dependence on foreign energy sources -- and to the multi-billion-dollar subsidies given each year to oil companies.

US President Barack Obama called on Saturday for an end to America's dependence on foreign energy sources -- and to the multi-billion-dollar subsidies given each year to oil companies.

"What we can't do is keep being dependent on other countries for our energy needs," Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address.

"In America we control our own destiny," he added. "So that's the choice we face - the past, or the future."

The comments came as the president faces mounting criticism from Republicans, who have blamed his for spiking .

The American Automobile Association (AAA) predicts across the United States could average $4.25 a gallon by May, up from $3.83 today.

US President Barack Obama has called for ending the $4 billion a year in tax breaks that US oil companies receive each year.

Between 1998 and 2004, prices ranged from $1 to $2.

Prices vary wildly between regions, however, and last week, gasbuddy.com, a website that tracks prices in all 50 states, reported $5.09 a gallon at one Mobil and two Chevron stations in greater Los Angeles.

Given that 76 percent of Americans drive themselves to work, and a trip to the store can often mean a long drive to the mall, higher gas prices are a critical issue -- especially in a presidential election year.

The president noted that the price of gasoline depended on a lot of factors that are beyond US control.

"Unrest in the Middle East can tighten global oil supply," he said. "Growing nations like China or India adding cars to the road increases demand."

But he pointed out that his administration had already put in place new standards that will make sure that American cars average nearly 55 (88.5 kilometers per 3.8 liters) by the middle of the next decade - nearly double what they get today.

The president also called for ending the $4 billion a year in tax breaks that US oil companies receive each year.

"In the next few weeks, I expect Congress to vote on ending these subsidies," he said. "And when they do, we're going to put every single Member of Congress on record: They can either stand up for , or they can stand up for the American people."

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ryggesogn2
1.9 / 5 (17) Mar 17, 2012
What is he DOING about it except wasting taxpayer money?

Unless he wants the US to return to horse and buggies, oil and coal WILL be needed.
It is easier to afford clean, efficient energy if one has the wealth to do so.
Unleash wealth creation and clean, efficient energy will follow when ready for prime time.
ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (16) Mar 17, 2012
"The Institute for Energy Research reported last December that government data puts the total recoverable resources in North America at more than 1.7 trillion barrels. "That is more than the world has used since the first oil well was drilled over 150 years ago in Titusville, Pennsylvania," according to IER. "To put this in context, Saudi Arabia has about 260 billion barrels of oil in proved reserves. For comparative purposes, the technically recoverable oil in North America could fuel the present needs in the United States of seven billion barrels per year for around 250 years.""
"Data like these make it clear that America's biggest problem on these issues isn't that it's impossible to "drill, drill, drill," but rather that the president, his appointees at agencies like EPA and the departments of energy and interior, and his Democratic allies in the Senate refuse to deal with the world as it is instead of how they wish it could be. "
http://washington...rials/20
210
2.9 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
What is he DOING about it except wasting taxpayer money?

Unless he wants the US to return to horse and buggies, oil and coal WILL be needed.
It is easier to afford clean, efficient energy if one has the wealth to do so.
Unleash wealth creation and clean, efficient energy will follow when ready for prime time.

But you never ever get there. The old school oil guys sandbag change by buying congressional votes to stifle change...and you know that. They don't mind protecting coal and gas because they own that too or can purchase controlling interest in anything that has to be dug out of the ground massively. Your argument has become the lost key to the clean-renewable-energy-chastity-belt that American presidents have been trying to find since Abe Lincoln...
word-to-ya-muthas
ryggesogn2
1.9 / 5 (14) Mar 17, 2012
The old school oil guys sandbag change by buying congressional votes to stifle change..

Is they BP and Shell have been researching and LOBBYING for wind and solar subsidies?
Before the 'progressives' came into power, free market entrepreneurs invented kerosene for lighting to replace expensive sperm whale oil. Do you thing the sperm whale industry had political support? JD Rockefeller found a way to produce kerosene very cheaply so everyone could afford lamps. Then Edison came along with the electric lamp. But a waste product from kerosene production, gasoline, was used for autos. BTW, kerosene is basically jet fuel.
But then the 'progressives' had break up Standard Oil to make it more 'fair' for the competition. Then lobbying expanded, big time.
210
3 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
"Data like these make it clear that America's biggest problem on these issues isn't that it's impossible to "drill, drill, drill," but rather that the president, his appointees at agencies like EPA and the departments of energy and interior, and his Democratic allies in the Senate refuse to deal with the world as it is instead of how they wish it could be. "

America is America because the people saw themselves being something that the British Crown said they could never, EVER be...look now.
'We the people...' can make choices that are not based in the limited, volatile, reality of what we see, but what we wish to be and how we long to be remembered. Slavery is gone from American shores because Americans demanded that it go. High priced oil means that high priced alternatives can compete...and as more renewables grow, you will not see oil do the same. Sure you still have to use it, and coal, but our world needs us to use just a bit less to sustain us - Do the right thing!

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210
3 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012

Is they BP and Shell have been researching and LOBBYING for wind and solar subsidies?
Before the 'progressives' came into power,


I think I understand what you are trying to say...and I stand by what I have written. Even IF BP, EXXON, SHELL or any other massive oil firm tries to get subsidies for alternative energy, or not, their agenda remains the same: Milk the old school method of making money until it dies and control the rollout of new energy on their own terms. No, Big Oil needs competition and that competition needs to be protected from oil money that buys votes and cripples competition. Big oil wants to be part of the mix, sure, let em in...they want to dominate and stagnate...don't act surprised and be ready to fight!

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Shelgeyr
1.9 / 5 (14) Mar 17, 2012
Obama urges end to US reliance on foreign energy

Meanwhile this lying (take your pick) "idiot child" or "Marxist enemy" does all he can to sabotage the American economy, including an all-out push to destroy the energy industry.

I cannot wait until the day soon comes that the electorate (by overcoming certain and rampant leftist election fraud) sends this traitorous thug and his fellow-travelers packing, after which nobody will have to care about Obama's opinion on anything.

There will be dancing in the streets, far and wide!

We'll leave a light on.
Vendicar_Decarian
1 / 5 (44) Mar 17, 2012
Poor RyggTard. He wants the president to control the price of gasoline on today but insists upon an unregulated free market for everything else.

What a clown.

"What is he DOING about it except wasting taxpayer money?" - RyggTard
Vendicar_Decarian
0.9 / 5 (45) Mar 17, 2012
It is, and that is why the Libertarian/Randite/Republican conspiracy to bankrupt America has been such a disaster for the American People.

"It is easier to afford clean, efficient energy if one has the wealth to do so." - RyggTard

Remember the Libertarian Motto... Starve The Beast of big government through fiscal collapse.
ryggesogn2
2 / 5 (16) Mar 17, 2012
Milk the old school method of making money until it dies and control the rollout of new energy on their own terms.

That is the 'progressive' way, created and supported by 'progressives' on their terms.
What is 'old school method of making money'? You mean selling products people want to buy at the lowest costs?
That is exactly what JD Rockefeller did. He sold the best kerosene at the lowest cost and made millions. Until competitors cut into his market share and the 'progressives' punished him for using the 'old school method of making money'?
What is the 'new school'? Donating to Obama and getting free money from the taxpayers?
RitchieGuy
1.5 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
the bottom line is that Americans still require oil and gasoline for transportation and home heating. The power companies need coal or gas to supply electric companies with energy through the wire.
The plastics industry will always require oil to manufacture their plastic products.
Drilling is still required to get that oil out of the ground and Obama is pretending that solar and windmills are already dedicated sources of energy throughout the country. . .and it is not. They are both still very expensive and, for the most part, unreliable.
Obama needs to give permission to drill on U.S. soil and in U.S. waters whether or not it's environmentally practical because the country needs oil and consumers cannot afford for a gallon of gasoline to be more expensive. If Obama prevents more drilling and/or taxes the oil companies to death, they will only pass their higher expense on to the consumer who will not be able to afford that either.
RitchieGuy
1.5 / 5 (8) Mar 17, 2012
That may be Obama's method of transitioning a free market economy into a socialist economy, more or less sneaking it in through the back door. Pretending that a transition to renewable energy sources is already a reality is just that. . .all pretense.
In the meantime, he is making fools out of the paying public. . .the oil industry can absorb the extra costs by passing it onto the consumers. They have no problem with that.
It may be a ploy on Obama's part to get the public so riled up at the pump that they will turn on oil companies and demand that renewables be manufactured quickly to punish big oil.
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (5) Mar 17, 2012
Venditard says:
Poor RyggTard. He wants the president to control the price of gasoline on today but insists upon an unregulated free market for everything else.

What a clown.

"What is he DOING about it except wasting taxpayer money?" - RyggTard


Venditard misunderstands what was said. The price of a gallon of gasoline will be unaffordable for many people if Obama decreases or cancels the tax breaks on oil companies. Even though gasoline prices are high now, they will be much higher without the tax breaks. Most people, if faced with high gasoline prices, will drive a lot less than usual and take public transportation or share-a-ride with others. But for people who have no alternative, they will see it as a punishment from the oil companies, when it is really the president's fault.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.8 / 5 (42) Mar 18, 2012
The Republican Brain: The Science of Why They Dont Believe in Science (or Many Other Inconvenient Truths)

http://www.desmog...t-truths
Vendicar_Decarian
0.8 / 5 (41) Mar 18, 2012
Our present crisis over the rise of anti-science has been coming for a long time and we should have seen it coming. The same goes for todays attacks on scientists. Its deplorable but, alas, not a new phenomenon, as industrys campaign against Rachel Carson and other scientists in decades past attests." - Naomi Oreskes

http://www.mercha...ubt.org/
TheSpiceIsLife
3.5 / 5 (4) Mar 18, 2012
Oil, coal, and gas will continue to be part of the mix for many decades to come. It's probably prudent at this point to seriously decrease our dependency on them - they are finite resources we don't have immediate replacements for.

Solar, wind, tidal, and geothermal - where appropriate - are also necessary, but not sufficient. Nuclear too.

I think trams are also a great idea, they can be built in to existing roadways, and high speed rail.

Change is happening, perhaps not as fast as we'd like to see. I reckon we'll get there though, it's very early days yet.

And could you two please stop bickering, it's very boring to read.
chuckleberry
1.8 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2012
Nuclear fission then eventually fusion (if it pans out) is the way to go. I imagine this will keep us going for the next few hundred years. By then I imagine we will have come up with more exotic, efficient and truly Eco-friendly methods of energy generation. Current "Eco-friendly" tech is disruptive to the environments in which they are place or have significant environmental cost when produced. Much like "eco-friendy" cars that actually produce more C02 emission during manufacture than they would have had they been gas or diesel over the entire life of the vehicle. Thanks mostly to the rare-earths require to manufacture them.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.8 / 5 (41) Mar 18, 2012
For the cost of George Bush Jr's little war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. could purchase enough PV cells at retail cost, to provide all of America's electricity needs.

That is how far Bush Jr. has screwed America over.

Good luck with that.
Sean_W
1 / 5 (7) Mar 18, 2012
Obama urges end to US reliance on foreign energy

Meanwhile this lying (take your pick) "idiot child" or "Marxist enemy" does all he can to sabotage the American economy, including an all-out push to destroy the energy industry.

I cannot wait until the day soon comes that the electorate (by overcoming certain and rampant leftist election fraud) sends this traitorous thug and his fellow-travelers packing, after which nobody will have to care about Obama's opinion on anything.

There will be dancing in the streets, far and wide!

We'll leave a light on.


There will be no dancing. Socialism/fascism is just human nature and is the desire to be, or be behind, the alpha dog/chimp. It is concealed in talk of compassion, fairness, justice or national pride so people can hide their real desire for power or at least protection of the powerful. Human nature lusts after tyranny.
DGBEACH
2.6 / 5 (8) Mar 18, 2012
For the cost of George Bush Jr's little war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. could purchase enough PV cells at retail cost, to provide all of America's electricity needs.

That is how far Bush Jr. has screwed America over.

Good luck with that.

For once, I most emphatically agree with you. Unfortunately the American psyche is unable to admit to gross mistakes such that the Bush-empire forced the American people to swallow, and defend. We should all feel sorry for them...if only they weren't so full of themselves!
djr
5 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2012
"North America at more than 1.7 trillion barrels" Holy shit - you guys just get to make up your own data. Why don't you try looking at the real facts - instead of your echo chamber nonsense. The U.S. has approximately 20-30 billion barrels! CIA agrees with that https://www.cia.g...ank.html Bp agrees http://www.bp.com...7068605# There is a very comprehensive break down of oil reserves in the BP report - putting world reserves at 1.38 trillion barrels. And you claim North America has 1.7 trillion. How is it you get to pull figures out of your arse? Another question - what do you claim as the proven U.S. oil reserves? Also what percentage of those are oil shale? Sources please.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.6 / 5 (40) Mar 18, 2012
American Conservatives feel that lying is their God given right.

"How is it you get to pull figures out of your arse? " - dir

Here is a Tea Party trainer telling his students that they should lie to further the Conservative Cause.

http://www.youtub...bIgDWKWc
ryggesogn2
2.1 / 5 (7) Mar 18, 2012
Socialists attack national defense, until they need it as an excuse to take more power.
"he domestic industrial and technological base is the foundation for national defense preparedness. The authorities provided in the Act shall be used to strengthen this base and to ensure it is capable of responding to the national defense needs of the United States."
http://www.whiteh...aredness
RitchieGuy
1 / 5 (4) Mar 18, 2012
Bush Bush Bush. . .I am so f*king sick and tired of hearing about GWBush. VendiTard and his one trick pony can't leave the dead alone. Obsession with one president is so idiotic, and Obama's stupidity in leaving American troops in Afghanistan to be killed by the Taliban is never even mentioned by these dumbass AGWuites. WHERE IS THE F*KING OUTRAGE THAT THE WAR IS STILL GOING ON?? Where are the war opponents who always beat their drums during VietNam and the 2 Gulf wars? Did they stop opposing war just because Obama sits in the White House for the last 3 years? The American "useful idiots" are showing their bias. End the war NOW and get those guys out of there.
RitchieGuy
2 / 5 (4) Mar 18, 2012
American Conservatives feel that lying is their God given right.

"How is it you get to pull figures out of your arse? " - dir

Here is a Tea Party trainer telling his students that they should lie to further the Conservative Cause.

http://www.youtub...bIgDWKWc


That's a Leftist propagandist, not a Conservative. It's easy to see the difference. . . .unless you're a blind Socialist/Communist like Henry Winston was.
Caliban
1 / 5 (2) Mar 18, 2012
Socialists attack national defense, until they need it as an excuse to take more power.


And spineless squids like rygsuckin' hide behind their uber-patriot pose and claim to defend the god-given right to individual freedom set out in the US Constitution. And all the while --WORK the FEAR.

If it were a an actual position, it might be understandable --perhaps even forgiven.

But the filthy truth is, was, and always will be that rygsuckin', et al, are only interested in cultivating the appearance of such an ethos, as it provides a convenient, easily manipulated ideological camouflage to mask their actual intent, which is TO PROFIT from that collective fear

When sufficient numbers of the electorate submit to the CON out of fear,the resulting escalation in "national defense preparedness" shrinks the economy, proscribes those precious freedoms, and puts money in the pockets of those with portfolios redolent of Boeing, General Dynamics, GE, Lockheed and -my favorite- BAE.

Caliban
1 / 5 (2) Mar 18, 2012
A word of caution to you, gentle readers -if any of you are in danger of being taken in(or, specifically, "sucked" in, in this case) by the ever-so-patriotic blandishments of rygsuckin' and his ilk- you need only remember that their kind are responsible for -just of recent infamy- the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and soon,(they fervently hope) Iran.

And let's not forget the Constitutionally-guaranteed Civil Liberties killing(or suspending)-, Warrantless wiretap and surveillance-, Indefinite Detention-, Extraordinary Rendition-
authorising, and massively-funding-of-military-and-intelligence Contractors- legislation named, aptly, and in their honor -the USA PATRIOT ACT!!!

All this -and more besides- in the name of the twin virtues that make America Great- individual freedom and the (innocuously-, ironically-, named)"free market", the Magic Horn that ensures a constant supply of (blood)money to the insatiable Vampire Squid of which rygsuckin' represents the merest little sucklet.
Caliban
1 / 5 (2) Mar 18, 2012
And, while representing only the merest, tiniest of little tentacular sucklets on only one of many squid arms, the harm done by rygsuckin' may seem insignificantly small, and therefore, my(and others') vehement response completely disproportionate...

Let's illustrate the actual scope of this harm with a medical model: the virus. While individual virus particles are only capable of inflicting undetectable amounts of damage, when allowed to multiply unchecked, the individually insignificant effect is magnified to the point overwhelming the host, causing severe disabilitly and/or death.
And don't be fooled into thinking that the "freemarket" can be likened to some kind of bacteria that has coevolved in beneficial equilibrium with the host either --remember, you only need consider the effects of an overgrowth of C. albicans or E. coli to understand the fallacy of such thinking.

No, my frieinds -the only good Vampire Squid sucklet is a Dead Vampire Squid sucklet.

ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (6) Mar 18, 2012
When sufficient numbers of the electorate submit to the CON out of fear

This executive order was issued by Obama a few days ago.
So we agree Obama and his fellow Marxists are trying to con the voters.
Caliban
1 / 5 (2) Mar 18, 2012
When sufficient numbers of the electorate submit to the CON out of fear

This executive order was issued by Obama a few days ago.
So we agree Obama and his fellow Marxists are trying to con the voters.


See what I mean, gentle readers? One would be hard-pressed to find an example of a president more relentlessly corporatist(albeit in a somewhat more enlightened way) than Mr. Obama -but in the rygsuckin' proselytisation of the Vampire Squid CON, this makes him a MARXIST...don't be sucked into the delusion.


ryggesogn2
2.3 / 5 (6) Mar 18, 2012
Corporatism is socialism, state control of private property.
The govt has the power to say NO (or yes) to any corporation. Which this regime is doing, saying no to drilling companies, coal companies and yes to wind and solar.
If the govt had said yes to oil and coal companies, more people would be working, earning income, paying taxes and being less dependent upon this regime(unemployment, food stamps). If the govt had not GIVEN money to bankrupt solar companies, the taxpayers would not have screwed by this regime. But the regime did get political donations in return for giving away other people's money.
ryggesogn2
1.8 / 5 (5) Mar 18, 2012
"STERN: You like Obama?

MACPHERSON: Yeah, Im living in London and Im socialist. What do you expect?

STERN: And youre living in London and you sense what other foreigners feel. Do they like him?

MACPHERSON: I think foreigners like him. Hes very popular.

STERN: Dont we look good having a black president and everything? Makes us kind of cool.

MACPHERSON: I think its more about his policy. But you know there are I understand that there are a lot of people who dont, you know, dont want change. We want change. We want change. And he says, Ill implement change, and you go, Oh, actually, I dont bleeping feel like I want change. Its too difficult.

And Obama's media wonder why folks think he's a socialist.

Read more: http://newsbuster...pWXWjMNZ
Vendicar_Decarian
0.4 / 5 (38) Mar 18, 2012
The title of RyggTards link?

"Supermodel Elle Macpherson Loves Obama"

And RyggTard wonders why people know he is a fool.
djr
3.7 / 5 (3) Mar 18, 2012
Rygg claims that North America has 1.7 trillion barrels of recoverable oil. Provides a link that does not work. Solid data is provided from one of the world's most respected annual oil reports (BP) - demonstrating that Rygg's claim is total bull shit - and the silence is deafening.
rwinners
3 / 5 (4) Mar 19, 2012
This man is probably the best President the US has had in 50 years... possibly baring Clinton.
Shelgeyr
1 / 5 (2) Mar 19, 2012
Love this article on the topic:
http://www.americ...ces.html

This isn't news to some of us (who've know about it and have pursued it for years), but at the same time qualifies as "very welcome news".
CardacianNeverid
3.7 / 5 (6) Mar 19, 2012
Love this article on the topic:
http://www.americ...ces.html -ShelShockedTard

I stopped reading after the first paragraph, which says -
"President Barack Obama and his green energy confederates are determined to scare the public about a declining supply of "fossil fuels".

I'm surprised they didn't use Obama's middle name and question the authenticity of his birth certificate!

And how demented do you have to be to not only read this tripe but to expose your limited intellect by openly promoting conservitard misinformation?

For good measure, here's another paragraph (okay, I read more just for lulz) -

"The political implications for Barack Obama and the radical environmentalist base he panders to with his corrupt 'renewable' energy policy are profound".

You can't make this shit up - oh, wait...
Duude
1 / 5 (1) Mar 19, 2012
What Obama calls subsidies are simple deductions for the cost of oil and gas exploration. What other industry isn't allowed a deduction for research or employee costs? What Obama really wants is higher energy prices so that alternatives will be closer to being competitive. What kind of President would appoint an energy secretary that proclaimed that the solution to US oil dependence is higher gasoline prices like that which exists in Europe? A president that agrees with this idea. Make no mistake, if Obama is reelected, gasoline prices will rocket up due to new government-imposed expenses, taxes, etc on the gas and oil industry. Why then? Because he won't fear disgruntled voters in a second term.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.2 / 5 (36) Mar 19, 2012
What? RyggTard has been caught lying again?

Libertarians aren't chronic liars, are they?

"Solid data is provided from one of the world's most respected annual oil reports (BP) - demonstrating that Rygg's claim is total bull shit." - dir

I have never encountered a Libertarian/Randite who wasn't a perpetual and congenital liar.

RyggTard provides a fine example.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.2 / 5 (36) Mar 19, 2012
""President Barack Obama and his green energy confederates are determined to scare the public about a declining supply of "fossil fuels"." - Cardascian

The publication referenced is "The American Thinker" - a publication that invites Libertarian/Randite nobodies to write all manner of drivel supporting the anti-science Libertarian/Randite Party line.

Lying is rife within it's pages. Abiotic Oil is just another example of the nonsense within.

You will note that the words "lie" and "Libertarian" are commonly found together.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.2 / 5 (36) Mar 19, 2012
$312 billion annual consumption subsidy to oil industry

http://www.natura...news=176
COCO
1 / 5 (2) Mar 19, 2012
I trust this simpleton knows Canada remains the largest exporter to the US - a puppet state perhaps but still hanging on to vestiges of independance.
Shelgeyr
1 / 5 (4) Mar 20, 2012
@CardacianNeverid (VD, Nudds in sockpuppet guise) bespoke some blather:
believe me, it isn't worth quoting...


Let's see, that first statement about Obama et al. trying to scare the public is apparently true. Wouldn't call it "scientific fact" unless you had video of one of them saying "we're going to try to scare the public", a la Holder's gun brainwashing video, but that's another story... Still, it isn't a stretch when you can see it happening.

I'm surprised they didn't use Obama's middle name and question the authenticity of his birth certificate!


Well, since the article was about oil, and since the writers aren't idiot leftists, you shouldn't be so surprised. That kind of tactic is the hallmark of YOUR side. Stop projecting!

"The political implications for Barack Obama and the radical environmentalist base he panders to with his corrupt 'renewable' energy policy are profound."


That's a very reasonable opinion, about an arguably likely outcome.
Kinedryl
1 / 5 (1) Mar 20, 2012
At the water surface the transverse waves disperse into longitudinal at the sufficient distance. Particles of matter are indistinguishable from particles of antimatter, until they're not very small, like the neutrinos. In accordance with it, every extreme stance becomes undistinguishable from its dual counterpart. For example the extreme leftist Stalin didn't differ from extreme right-wing Hitler so much in his political methods.
Shelgeyr
1 / 5 (4) Mar 20, 2012
""President Barack Obama and his green energy confederates are determined to scare the public about a declining supply of "fossil fuels"." - Cardascian
The publication referenced is "The American Thinker"


Hahahahahahaha!

You either just quoted yourself, and then attempted to explain it to yourself (while getting it wrong, which is just too rich), in an attempt to make it appear as if you're not your own sockpuppet, OR the straightjacket gang is long overdue to pay you a visit because you're a danger to yourself and those around you (as you've proven with your threats and deathwishes).

Gosh it must REALLY suck to be you.

Abiotic Oil is just another example of the nonsense within.

Care to back that statement of extreme bias up with any, you know, actual evidence? Have you any sort of valid counter-explanation for the very real successes the Russians are having pursuing abiotic oil with ultra-deep wells?

I didn't think so.

Thanks for playing!
Shelgeyr
1 / 5 (2) Mar 20, 2012
@Kinedryl:

Wrong times three:

Everything between "At the water..." and "...its dual counterpart."

1) Utter nonsense

...extreme right-wing Hitler...

2) Godwin's law
3) "National Socialists" - i.e. Left wing.

Revisionism doesn't fly.
ryggesogn2
1 / 5 (2) Mar 20, 2012
"Friends describe Immelt as privately dismayed that, even after three years on the job, President Obama hasnt moved to the center, but instead further left. The GE CEO, Im told, is appalled by everything from the presidents class-warfare rhetoric to his continued belief that big government is the key to economic salvation.

Read more: http://www.nypost...pg78O4FV
"

In the end, the govt has all the power.
Vendicar_Decarian
0.2 / 5 (36) Mar 20, 2012
Very true. His only problem is that his administration has difficulty communicating with the public.

And of course Faux news spends it's entire schedule lying about him.

"This man is probably the best President the US has had in 50 years... possibly baring Clinton." - rwinners

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