Hints of the Higgs - papers are submitted

Feb 08, 2012
A typical candidate event including two high-energy photons whose energy (depicted by dashed yellow lines and red towers) is measured in the CMS electromagnetic calorimeter. The yellow lines are the measured tracks of other particles produced in the collision. Image: CERN

Back in December 2011, the ATLAS and CMS experiments at CERN presented some exciting results that provided tantalising hints of the Higgs boson.

Today, these results are being submitted for publication in the journal Physics Letters B.

The papers show that subsequent analysis supports the of the results presented at the much-publicised seminar in December. However the results are still not sufficient to meet the particle physics community's strict definition of a discovery.

More data is required to confirm the existence of the and this will be collected by the ATLAS and CMS experiments when the Large Hadron Collider resumes operation in March.

More information is available on the CERN website.

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JIMBO
4.2 / 5 (5) Feb 08, 2012
BigDeal...This `filler' is one of my main complaints against PhysOrg. If U have no viable news to report, then don't. Journal acceptance was guaranteed, & We are STILL waiting for Discovery !
Turritopsis
1 / 5 (5) Feb 08, 2012
I don't think the detectors are designed with the ability to pick up the signature of the Higgs.
Turritopsis
1 / 5 (4) Feb 08, 2012
A high energy collision transfers the energy of the constituents into field energy. How do you read the field energy? You don't. You do it indirectly by watching the decay. Creating the Higgs boson requires reading of the Higgs field. How do you know the collision took place?

That's the question.

Two nucleons speeding at each other at incredible velocity. BOOM. where is the energy of the nucleons? Gone. Their energy translated from kinetic to potential, field potential. FISSS. there's the energy. It returned from the field.

the Higgs field distortion is the momentary disappearance of kinetic energy of the nucleons.

The problem is the detectors are electromagnetic sensors. They don't register the collision until em energy of the event reaches and triggers 'em.

The Higgs boson is found before the detection moment. It exists before the collision registers as an event.
Turritopsis
1 / 5 (3) Feb 08, 2012
Particle accelerators are excellent detectors of particles but not the field itself. They are designed to check what is in the field and not for the field itself.

Who will be the first to design a field detector? How will it work?

This is a complete shift in the opposite polar direction. We see em energy (light, photons), we've designed aids which broaden the spectrum we can witness. We feel em charges.

Our senses are geared to read the energy of the source and not the source of the energy. We indirectly see the source.

What type of detector can read the source directly and from it predict the energy indirectly?
vacuum-mechanics
1 / 5 (2) Feb 09, 2012
Particle accelerators are excellent detectors of particles but not the field itself. They are designed to check what is in the field and not for the field itself.

Who will be the first to design a field detector? How will it work?
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May be this is what you asking for A simple experiment with two solenoids explained in the web:-
http://www.vacuum...id=15=en
Eoprime
not rated yet Feb 09, 2012
vakuummechanics...


The link gave me a good laugh, thank you!

Best (P/F)arts of the Link:
P2) Is ABSOLUTE meaningless to back you up.
P3) About magnetic cancelling: "This is an obvious indirect prove for the existence of the aether, isnt it?" - No it isn't, but i would be interested to know why YOU think so.

P4)"Due to the existence of vacuum medium as the privileged reference frame, we have to modify STR..." - cant get enough of the stuff.
P5) "Next, for our modified STR, we can also derive Lorentz transformation" - haven't seen ONE of them on your entire Homepage, mind to provide some? The car analogy in the your next sentence... priceless.

At P6 I fell of my chair --> "time dilation is also caused by the resistance of vacuum medium space which slows down the mechanism of the moving clock" - No Comment.
P7)same nonsense as P4)
In P8)you show that you have no clue about EM fields

I stopped counting at 150CPP http://math.ucr.e...pot.html
ant_oacute_nio354
1 / 5 (5) Feb 09, 2012
The Higgs doesn't exist because the mass is the electric dipole moment.

Antonio Saraiva
Kinedryl
1 / 5 (5) Feb 09, 2012
Everyone knows, the cosmic space is filled with sparse fibers of dark matter, which are known as a cosmic web and which manifests with characteristic power spectrum, which follows from its dodecahedron geometry (which follows from most compact particle packing, typical for foams). From water surface model of space-time follows, the same geometry should appear at the quantum scale, where the vacuum appears like dense foam too. So that the Higgs signal found should correspond the power spectrum of quantum fluctuations at the quantum scale.
vacuum-mechanics
1 / 5 (2) Feb 10, 2012
vakuummechanics...


The link gave me a good laugh, thank you!
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It seems that you not yet read detail referred paper Completed Einstein special theory of relativity, below. Please read it first, then we will discuss later.

http://www.vacuum...mid=6=en
vacuum-mechanics
1 / 5 (2) Feb 10, 2012
vakuummechanics...


The link gave me a good laugh, thank you!



Dear Eoprime

It seems that you not yet read detail referred paper Completed Einstein special theory of relativity, below. Please read it first, then we will discuss later.

http://www.vacuum...mid=6=en