Extreme summer temperatures occur more frequently: study

Feb 15, 2012 b yAnne M Stark
The Vegetation Drought Response Index (VegDRI) incorporates satellite observations of vegetation to monitor at a finer spatial detail than other commonly used drought indicators. Photo courtesy of U.S. Geological Survey

(PhysOrg.com) -- Extreme summer temperatures are already occurring more frequently in the United States, and will become normal by mid-century if the world continues on a business as usual schedule of emitting greenhouse gases.

By analyzing observations and results obtained from , a study led by Phil Duffy of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory showed that previously rare high summertime (June, July and August) temperatures are already occurring more frequently in some regions of the 48 contiguous United States.

"The observed increase in the frequency of previously rare summertime-average temperatures is more consistent with the consequences of increasing than with the effects of natural climate variability," said Duffy, who is the lead author of a report in a recent edition of the journal, . "It is extremely unlikely that the observed increase has happened through chance alone."

The geographical patterns of increases in extreme summer temperatures that appear in observations are consistent with those that are seen in of the 20th century, Duffy said.

Duffy and colleague Claudia Tebaldi, a senior scientist at the nonprofit news and research group Climate Central, showed that the models project that previously rare summer temperatures will occur in well more than 50 percent of summers by mid-century throughout the lower 48 states.

The team first compared the period 1975-2000 to the preceding 25 years, and found that both observations and results based on 16 show that summertime-average temperatures that were rare in the earlier period occurred more often in the later period, in certain regions. The agreement between observations and models demonstrates that the models are able to simulate changes in the occurrence of extreme summertime temperatures, Duffy said.

Duffy and Tebaldi performed a statistical analysis showing that the increases in rare summer temperatures seen in the later period are very unlikely to have occurred through chance weather variations.

Next, Duffy and Tebaldi assessed the present period, by using results obtained from climate models for 1995-2024; they found that that were extreme during 1950-1979 occur more often in the later time period. This supports the conclusion that extreme summertime temperatures are already occurring more frequently in parts of the lower 48 states. A second statistical analysis showed that this increase also is very unlikely to be due to chance weather variations alone, such as El Niños or La Niñas.

Finally, the team evaluated model results for 2035-2064 (representing the middle of this century) and found that extreme summertime temperatures that were rare during 1950-1979 are projected to occur in most summers throughout the 48-state region in the mid-century period. For the mid-century, summertime mean temperatures that historically occurred only 5 percent of the time are projected to occur at least 70 percent to the time everywhere in the 48 state region.

"The South, Southwest and Northeast are projected to experience the largest increases in the frequency of unusually hot summers," Duffy said. "The strong increase in extremes in the Southwest and Northeast are explained by strong historical and projected warming there. This result is based upon assuming a commonly used scenario for future emissions of carbon dioxide, the main driver of human-caused climate change.

"What was historically a one in 20-year occurrence will occur with at least a 70 percent chance every year. This work shows an example of how climate change can affect weather extremes, as well as averages."

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NotParker
1.8 / 5 (23) Feb 15, 2012
Summer is when 10s of millions of A/C units pump hot humid air into the cities.

The Urban Heat Island can warm cities by as much as 7-9C compared to the land around the cities.

http://www.nasa.g...awl.html
rubberman
2.4 / 5 (14) Feb 15, 2012
Just another candle on the global warming cake Spidy.
Sean_W
2 / 5 (20) Feb 15, 2012
They examined 2 periods of 25 years. The found that the later had more heatwaves. TREND!!! Next they played some climate video games and then fiddles with statistics to claim they did something worthwhile.

Weak.
deepsand
2.8 / 5 (18) Feb 15, 2012

Summer is when 10s of millions of A/C units pump hot humid air into the cities.

The air's already hot and humid; A/C doesn't create either heat or water. :rolleyes:
brant
1.7 / 5 (11) Feb 16, 2012
Outside the US there exists a world...

"MORE than 600 people have now died during a record-breaking cold snap in Eastern Europe.

Since the end of January the region has been in a deep freeze, which has brought the heaviest blizzards in recent memory.

Tens of thousands have been trapped in their homes and villages by walls of snow and impassable roads, and officials have struggled to airlift food to the vulnerable.

After a massive pile-up in a blizzard, about 100 damaged cars blocked a major road in the Czech Republic connecting the capital, Prague, with the eastern part of the country and Slovakia."
Vendicar_Decarian
3.2 / 5 (11) Feb 16, 2012
"Summer is when 10s of millions of A/C units pump hot humid air into the cities." - ParkerTard

Air conditioners typically pump heat from cool room into the air outside. In the process they reduce the humidity of the ambient air through condensation.

And of course none of this explains why the U.S as a whole has seen an increase in summer temperature extremes - hot and cold.

Poor ParkerTard. He can't add. He can't subtract. He can't think rationally. All he has are lies.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.3 / 5 (12) Feb 16, 2012
"MORE than 600 people have now died during a record-breaking cold snap in Eastern Europe." - Brant

A fine example of weather extremes associated with the ongoing warming of the globe. Extreme cold in Europe and a nonexistent winter in North America.

You do know what the word "extreme" means don't you Brant?

Apparently not.
gmurphy
4.6 / 5 (10) Feb 16, 2012
The fact that the world is getting warmer is no longer disputed, this has been shown using independent techniques by different research groups (with funding from the Koch brothers :P ). The only question we should be asking now is how to change our society to minimise the impact our CO2 pollution will have on future generations.
PS3
2.7 / 5 (7) Feb 16, 2012

Summer is when 10s of millions of A/C units pump hot humid air into the cities.

The air's already hot and humid; A/C doesn't create either heat or water. :rolleyes:

Pretty sure AC uses lots of watts which = heat.
Vendicar_Decarian
2.6 / 5 (10) Feb 16, 2012
Meanwhile scientists are absolutely certain, not "pretty sure" that AC use has had no impact on measurements of global temperature rise.

The dishonest like Anthony Whatts - Whatts up with that dishonesty - may claim hold other opinions.
Short bloke
1.4 / 5 (10) Feb 16, 2012
Great balls of frozen matter consists the moons orbiting the great planets, and if their orbits are elliptical, they undergo thermodynamic activity. Io, a moon of Jupiter experiences excessive volcanic activity. Comets accelerating unhindered towards the Sun all out-gas from their central interior. The elliptical orbit of the Earth does not deviate much from circular, however, there is sufficient to influence the presently unrecognised Gravitational Thermodynamic effect on Earths weather. According to my 68 year interest in physics, the referred to effect assists to warm in the summer and assists to cool the Earth in winter.
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (10) Feb 16, 2012
"there is sufficient to influence the presently unrecognised Gravitational Thermodynamic effect on Earths weather." - Short Bloke

Shouldn't you be filming perpetual motion video's for YouTube?

You 68 years of interest in physics makes you uniquely qualified to produce those magnetically levitated quantum zambogini perpetual motion machines made from old DVD disks, scotch tape and ear wax.
antialias_physorg
3.4 / 5 (5) Feb 16, 2012
According to my 68 year interest in physics

And let me guess: Zero years of actually taking physics courses?
rubberman
2.3 / 5 (6) Feb 16, 2012
Outside the US there exists a world...

"MORE than 600 people have now died during a record-breaking cold snap in Eastern Europe.

Since the end of January the region has been in a deep freeze, which has brought the heaviest blizzards in recent memory.

Tens of thousands have been trapped in their homes and villages by walls of snow and impassable roads, and officials have struggled to airlift food to the vulnerable.

After a massive pile-up in a blizzard, about 100 damaged cars blocked a major road in the Czech Republic connecting the capital, Prague, with the eastern part of the country and Slovakia."


Ironically enough this is really close to the same area that had the off the chart heat wave in 2010 that killed hundreds in western Russia. Geographically it would appear this area will be prone to the extremes the article refers to.
Egleton
1 / 5 (4) Feb 16, 2012
Can anyone tell me what the Gulf Stream is doing?
HROLLER
1 / 5 (6) Feb 16, 2012
The North Pole is moving at a fast pace and in turn the jet streams naturally move with it.
3432682
1.4 / 5 (10) Feb 16, 2012
This could be a real find - the first successful theory and prediction of something "bad" actually happening from global warming. However, since it has been hotter than it is now for 80% of the time since the last ice age ended, this finding too is bunk. It is simply silly to examine short periods of time and ignore the larger history, and the consistently warmer temperatures.
Modernmystic
1.3 / 5 (13) Feb 16, 2012
During the PETM it was 12 degrees hotter than it is now, and that's when mammals started to flourish all over the globe...

Meh...
kaasinees
0.1 / 5 (23) Feb 16, 2012
A few days ago we reached solar max, yesterday huge tornado on the sun has been spotted. It remains to be seen where we are heading, the large CO2 content in the air might save use when we reach solar minimum.
Currently i am more concerned with pollutants like mercury and car exhaust that causes brain damage.

We could plan fuel usage in advance based on solar activity... For example when reaching out of solar minimum we stop as much as possible fuel burning as possible, more solar activity is more solar energy capturing. then in the middle of solar maximum we start burning fuel to capture as much heat possible for when we reach solar minimum. Burning natural gas for heating homes already does this. We just need to figure out how to manage transportation or just eliminate as much as possible transportation that uses fuel.
kaasinees
0.7 / 5 (27) Feb 16, 2012
During the PETM it was 12 degrees hotter than it is now, and that's when mammals started to flourish all over the globe...

Meh...

But these mammals don't burn coal and oil and other products that pollute the environment.
Modernmystic
1.7 / 5 (11) Feb 16, 2012
During the PETM it was 12 degrees hotter than it is now, and that's when mammals started to flourish all over the globe...

Meh...

But these mammals don't burn coal and oil and other products that pollute the environment.


EXACTLY....apparently the irony is lost on you...
rubberman
2.5 / 5 (8) Feb 16, 2012
During the PETM it was 12 degrees hotter than it is now, and that's when mammals started to flourish all over the globe...

Meh...


Sooo, the only commonality we share with the PETM is rapid temperature rise.....and you accuse Kas of missing the irony.
Modernmystic
1.4 / 5 (11) Feb 16, 2012
During the PETM it was 12 degrees hotter than it is now, and that's when mammals started to flourish all over the globe...

Meh...


Sooo, the only commonality we share with the PETM is rapid temperature rise.....and you accuse Kas of missing the irony.


You too apparently. If you'd like me to spell it out I can, but I'm pretty sure you're both smart enough to figure it out if you thought outside the "environmentalist box"...
kaasinees
0.6 / 5 (27) Feb 16, 2012
During the PETM it was 12 degrees hotter than it is now, and that's when mammals started to flourish all over the globe...

Meh...


Sooo, the only commonality we share with the PETM is rapid temperature rise.....and you accuse Kas of missing the irony.


You too apparently. If you'd like me to spell it out I can, but I'm pretty sure you're both smart enough to figure it out if you thought outside the "environmentalist box"...

So you are one of those denialists that say we are not a major factor of global warming? We only had a few vulcanic activites in these days compared to much earlier life on earth.
rubberman
2.2 / 5 (10) Feb 16, 2012


Sooo, the only commonality we share with the PETM is rapid temperature rise.....and you accuse Kas of missing the irony.

You too apparently. If you'd like me to spell it out I can, but I'm pretty sure you're both smart enough to figure it out if you thought outside the "environmentalist box"...

Actually it's pretty ironic that you would compare the largest warming event in the last 60 million years to what is currently going on, when the temperature rise appears to be the only common denominator. You actually support the AGW position with that remark.....thanks. There's lots of room in our nicely insulated box, enough for 7 billion and growing.....
EverythingsJustATheory
3 / 5 (6) Feb 16, 2012
It's the rate of the current temperature rise that is concerning. Climate change, barring a rare event like an asteroid impact, occurs over extended periods of time. Never before has the earth warmed as quickly as it has been for the last 150 years.
rubberman
2.3 / 5 (6) Feb 16, 2012
It's the rate of the current temperature rise that is concerning. Climate change, barring a rare event like an asteroid impact, occurs over extended periods of time. Never before has the earth warmed as quickly as it has been for the last 150 years.


The PETM was pretty close, a little over .5 degree per century, but yeah, were gonna get to 5 degrees alot quicker than 1000 years.
Modernmystic
1.4 / 5 (10) Feb 16, 2012
I'm NOT comparing the two at all...the modest rise in temps that even the biggest chicken littles out there predict is nowhere near how hot it got during the PETM and there were no evil factories to blame it on either...
EverythingsJustATheory
3.3 / 5 (7) Feb 16, 2012
PETM:

"Global temperatures rose by about 6 °C (11 °F) over a period of approximately 20,000 years. That is a 0.0003 °C (.00055 °F) increase per year. Many benthic foraminifera and terrestrial mammals went extinct, but numerous modern mammalian orders emerged."

http://en.wikiped...iki/PETM

AGAIN, it is not the magnitude of the temperature but the rate of change. The earth's surface temperature has warmed on average in the last 100 years 0.8 C (1.4 F). That's 0.008 C a year and 26.67 times faster than the earth warmed during the PETM, and projections (granted not fact) are indicating that the rate will accelerate as more and more greenhouse gases are released.

Many species went extinct during the PETM due to rapid climate change. What do you think will happen when the climate changes (at a minimum) 27 times faster?
NotParker
1.3 / 5 (15) Feb 16, 2012
The earth's surface temperature has warmed on average in the last 100 years 0.8 C (1.4 F)


1) The 1800s were the tail end of the Little Ice Age. Of course it got a little warmer.

2) It warmed faster from 1911 to 1944 without much change in CO2. Almost .7C alone in those 3 decades.

3) It cooled from 1944 to about 1980.

4) It warmed a bit from 1980 to 1998, but much of that was UHI.

5) It hasn't warmed since 1998. So if the 20th century is a guide we have another 20 years of cooling or flat temperatures.

6) All of the above were natural.

deepsand
2.5 / 5 (13) Feb 16, 2012
Liar.

Once again I call your attention to, and demand that you rebut, the data presented at http://www.nasa.g...mps.html .

My bet is that you will once more evade.
NotParker
1.3 / 5 (15) Feb 17, 2012
Liar.

Once again I call your attention to, and demand that you rebut, the data presented at http://www.nasa.g...mps.html .

My bet is that you will once more evade.


GISS has been playing with the data. Delieberately cooling the past to drop 1934 from its rightful spot as the warmest year.

http://i52.tinypi...fgr8.gif

In 1998, 1934 was by far the warmest years and then they keep cutting off a little here and there and then it wasn't.
Vendicar_Decarian
4 / 5 (4) Feb 17, 2012
"The North Pole is moving at a fast pace and in turn the jet streams naturally move with it." - HrollerTard

Ya, the weight of all them alien space craft sitting in the earth's hollow core is causing it.

Sorry Tard Boy, but the earth's axis isn't changing rapidly and isn't changing any differently than it has for the last 4 billion years and the formation of the moon.

Your statement is a condemnation of your education. What little you have.

Vendicar_Decarian
4 / 5 (8) Feb 17, 2012
"GISS has been playing with the data." - Parker Tard

Ya, it's all a conspiracy to keep Conservative fools like you stupid while the Illuminati take over the world.

Learn how to add and subtract and then get back to us OK?
MORON.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.7 / 5 (6) Feb 17, 2012
You are lying of course.

"the modest rise in temps that even the biggest chicken littles out there predict is nowhere near how hot it got during the PETM" - ModernMystic

The amount of warming the models show is around 3'C for a doubling of CO2. But that is only the fast response. Fix CO2 levels at that point and the earth will continue to warm by an additional 3'C (approx).

This is due to the thermal damping of the deep ocean which takes thousands of years to warm.

So... Why do you feel a need to lie about the current warming relative to the PETM?

NotParker
1.3 / 5 (14) Feb 17, 2012
Liar


http://www.woodfo...77/trend

The 1911/44 step was steeper and longer than the 1980 to 1998 step.

The 35 year cooling period is clear from 1944 to 1980.

2000 is clearly the start of another 35 cooling period.

Do you notice how small the rise is from the 1944 peak to todays temperatures?

About .15C. Thats about the equivalent of the average March 15th temperature occurring on march 14th or 13th.

Totally miniscule.

The trouble with GISS is they make data up by extrapolating data from up to 1200km into places that have no thermometers like the Arctic.

NotParker
1.3 / 5 (15) Feb 17, 2012
The amount of warming the models show is around 3'C


The models are wrong. Climate sensitivity is miniscule. And there seems to be negative feedbacks or it would not have stopped warming for 13 years.

"Germanys flagship weekly news magazine Der Spiegel today also featured a 4-page exclusive interview with Vahrenholt, where he repeated that the IPCC has ignored a large part of climate science and that IPCC scientists exaggerated the impact of CO2 on climate. Vahrenholt said that by extending the known natural cycles of the past into the future, and taking CO2s real impact into effect, we should expect a few tenths of a degree of cooling."

http://hotair.com...-debate/
Excalibur
3 / 5 (14) Feb 17, 2012
2000 is clearly the start of another 35 cooling period.

Liar.

The trouble with GISS is they make data up by extrapolating data from up to 1200km into places that have no thermometers like the Arctic.]
The trouble with your data is that it's independent of reality.
Excalibur
3 / 5 (14) Feb 17, 2012
Arrgh; bloody primitive BBC.

Above, latter portion, should read

The trouble with GISS is they make data up by extrapolating data from up to 1200km into places that have no thermometers like the Arctic.


The trouble with your data is that it's independent of reality
Short bloke
1.8 / 5 (10) Feb 17, 2012
Vendicar. Your comment has no physical sense. Perhaps you may be prepared to provide us with your knowledge of the meaning and intent of a phrase such as A Gravitational Thermal Effect that was not in the scientific (ok pseudoscientific according to this blog) literature until my comment. The only reference was the co-called gravitational squeezing (unexplained) of Ios matter by Jupiters gravitational field. It is an anomaly that science has no knowledge of; perhaps you may care to explain how gravitation can squeeze matter to produce volcanic activity.
Antilas. The three volumes of The Feynman Lectures on Physics are quite informative and should be studied even if you are a Ph D which I would guess you are not.
Short bloke
1.4 / 5 (9) Feb 17, 2012
Vendicar. Your comment has no physical sense. Perhaps you may be prepared to provide us with your knowledge of the meaning and intent of a phrase such as A Gravitational Thermal Effect that was not in the scientific (ok pseudoscientific according to this blog) literature until my comment. The only reference was the co-called gravitational squeezing (unexplained) of Ios matter by Jupiters gravitational field. It is an anomaly that science has no knowledge of; perhaps you may care to explain how gravitation can squeeze matter to produce volcanic activity.
Antilas. The three volumes of The Feynman Lectures on Physics are quite informative and should be studied even if you are a Ph D which I would guess you are not.
Short bloke
1.4 / 5 (10) Feb 17, 2012
Vendicar. Your comment has no physical sense. Perhaps you may be prepared to provide us with your knowledge of the meaning and intent of a phrase such as A Gravitational Thermal Effect that was not in the scientific (ok pse-------- according to this blog) literature until my comment. The only reference was the co-called gravitational squeezing (unexplained) of Ios matter by Jupiters gravitational field. It is an anomaly that science has no knowledge of; perhaps you may care to explain how gravitation can squeeze matter to produce volcanic activity.
Antilas. The three volumes of The Feynman Lectures on Physics are quite informative and should be studied even if you are a Ph D which I would guess you are not.
Excalibur
3 / 5 (12) Feb 17, 2012
Your equating the velocity delta of an body in an elliptical orbit with "Gravitational Thermodynamic effects" makes no physical sense.
rubberman
3 / 5 (12) Feb 17, 2012
NotParker, do you have anything in the way of actual evidence that supports your opinion? You link personal opinion pages that support your view, graphs that you can't read or misinterpret, or just claim that observed facts have been "doctored". You spew the same circular argument every time and every time it is refuted. You might as well be trying to prove cigarettes don't cause cancer.
kaasinees
0.5 / 5 (25) Feb 17, 2012
"The North Pole is moving at a fast pace and in turn the jet streams naturally move with it." - HrollerTard

Ya, the weight of all them alien space craft sitting in the earth's hollow core is causing it.

Sorry Tard Boy, but the earth's axis isn't changing rapidly and isn't changing any differently than it has for the last 4 billion years and the formation of the moon.

Your statement is a condemnation of your education. What little you have.



I think he is talking about the magnetic north pole not the geological north pole. The magnetic north pole is accelerating and moving each year. this pole shift has been simulated by NASA and it takes a thousand years on average for a complete pole shift.
NotParker
1.3 / 5 (14) Feb 17, 2012
NotParker, do you have anything in the way of actual evidence that supports your opinion?


The 1930s were quite hot in the USA. 25 of the state temperature records were set then.

Does the term dust bowl mean anything to you?

Take a look at the Palmer Drought Index. And when someone claims "historical drought conditions" you might have enough knowledge to notice they are pretending the 30s did not exist.

http://weather.ab...-Map.htm
deepsand
2.8 / 5 (16) Feb 17, 2012
Just like you pretend that a lot of data don't exist?

Silly rabbit.
Vendicar_Decarian
3 / 5 (6) Feb 17, 2012
I take it that English isn't your first language.

"Your comment has no physical sense. Perhaps you may be prepared to provide us with your knowledge of the meaning and intent of a phrase such as A Gravitational Thermal Effect that was not in the scientific (ok pse-------- according to this blog) literature until my comment." Short Bloke
Vendicar_Decarian
3.3 / 5 (7) Feb 17, 2012
"I think he is talking about the magnetic north pole not the geological north pole." - Kaas

I presume so as well, but assuming that makes his later claim even more insanely ignorant.

So I went with maximizing his single digit IQ.
Vendicar_Decarian
3.3 / 5 (7) Feb 17, 2012
Parker Tard is a congenital liar who has no evidence to support his ignorant, denialist assertions, and who relies on internet blogs written by equally ignorant and corrupt Tards for "evidence" to support his denialist non-science.

"The models are wrong. Climate sensitivity is miniscule" - ParkerTard
NotParker
1.3 / 5 (12) Feb 18, 2012
Parker Tard is a congenital liar


So you say. You're just jealous I put references in my posts and you can't.
antialias_physorg
5 / 5 (3) Feb 18, 2012
Antilas. The three volumes of The Feynman Lectures on Physics are quite informative and should be studied even if you are a Ph D which I would guess you are not.

I have them. As audio-books. Know them almost by heart.

And unfortunately I must inform you that I do hold a PhD (in human biology) and have an electrical engineering degree from an elite university (at the time it was the only elite university in germany). Getting such a degree does require some understanding of physics up to, and including, some basic quantum physics and relativity.

So no. I'm not a physicist or mathematician (wanted to be one of those, but rather decided for EE because the job market didn't look promising for physicists nor for mathematicians)
ryggesogn2
1.3 / 5 (14) Feb 18, 2012
And unfortunately I must inform you that I do hold a PhD (in human biology) and have an electrical engineering degree from an elite university

You must have a real problem dealing with reality.
EEs, like most engineers, are quite practical, grounded in physics and appreciate its limitations.
Biologists don't seem to understand or appreciate those limits.
deepsand
2.9 / 5 (15) Feb 18, 2012
Parker Tard is a congenital liar


So you say. You're just jealous I put references in my posts and you can't.


Why on Earth would we want to cite drivel, fluff and tripe?

Excalibur
3 / 5 (14) Feb 18, 2012
Parker Tard is a congenital liar


So you say. You're just jealous I put references in my posts and you can't.

Other have done just that, with the result that you've not been able and willing to properly refute it, choosing instead to simply continue shoveling the same old dung.
Vendicar_Decarian
4 / 5 (4) Feb 18, 2012
"You're just jealous I put references in my posts and you can't." - RyggTard

Sorry Tard Boy, but posting links to statistically false graphics, Denialist ClapTrap blogs, and dishonest Libertarian Organizations like the Heratige Institute, that has now been outed as trying to prevent teachers from teaching science, aren't legitimate references.

Never have been. Never will be.

Vendicar_Decarian
4 / 5 (4) Feb 18, 2012
"Take a look at the Palmer Drought Index." - parker Tard

OK..

http://www1.ncdc....3-pg.gif

This is what the regional forecasts for climate change predict over the short term.

Over the long term they project permanent drought extending into the west central U.S.

How do you intend to feed yourselves with 1/3rd of your nation reverting to desert?

Vendicar_Decarian
3.4 / 5 (5) Feb 18, 2012
New Jersey study says taxing plants for carbon emissions creates jobs

New Jersey's participation in a regional effort to decrease greenhouse-gas emissions brought the state $151 million in economic benefits, including nearly 1,800 jobs, over three years, according to the study issued by Environment New Jersey Research and Policy Center.

http://articles.p...ive-rggi
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (11) Feb 18, 2012
"The carbon credits issued under the northeasts regional cap and trade program arent trading very much since New Jersey announced its withdrawal from the program. A report on the secondary market for the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI) shows that trading of RGGI futures in down 55% from a year ago, showing that markets have less faith in the future of the program."
"The Potomac report shows little movement in the RGGI closing price on the CCFE, which has traded between $1.85 and $1.94. The price averaged $1.90 prior to New Jerseys decision to leave the ten-state compact at the end of the year, and $1.87 after the announcement. The report found little interest in RGGI credits outside of the power companies that must produce them."
http://newhampshi...crashes/
Another socialist failure.
ryggesogn2
1.4 / 5 (11) Feb 18, 2012
"While the credit prices at the RGGI auctions have decreased, New Hampshire ratepayers have seen their electricity bills increase. Its time to end our participation in RGGI and stop making New Hampshire ratepayers carry the burden of this green scheme.

Read more: http://www.americ...mkNhZ2x0
"
antialias_physorg
5 / 5 (3) Feb 18, 2012
You must have a real problem dealing with reality.
EEs, like most engineers, are quite practical, grounded in physics and appreciate its limitations.
Biologists don't seem to understand or appreciate those limits.

University EE is not like college EE. It's highly theoretical. This isn't a course of study that trains you to fix washing machines or change the distributor in your engine. It is a course of study to give you the theoretical knowledge to do research in your area of specialty (I specialised in biomedical electrical engineering...which is stuff like computer tomography, magnetic resonance imaging, electric field tomography, image processing, etc,)

The PhD in human biology is due to original work for automated image processing and diagnostic algorithms on CT images. I'm not a purebred biologist by any stretch of the imagination.

But you surely must hold some position in physics...right...riiiight? Thought so.
NeutronicallyRepulsive
5 / 5 (2) Feb 19, 2012
"After a massive pile-up in a blizzard, about 100 damaged cars blocked a major road in the Czech Republic connecting the capital, Prague, with the eastern part of the country and Slovakia."

No, that was actually caused by the fact, that 65% of the trucks were speeding at more than 80 kph. People were simply driving in a risky way.
Vendicar_Decarian
5 / 5 (3) Feb 19, 2012
Rates have always increased, and service quality declined when electric utilities have been deregulated.

Enron is a classic example of the corporate corruption spawned by Libertairan Policies.

"New Hampshire ratepayers have seen their electricity bills increase." - RyggTard

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