Windows 8 readies push-button PC refresh, reset

January 5, 2012 by Nancy Owano report

Windows 8 readies push-button PC refresh, reset

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Resetting your Win 8 PC

(PhysOrg.com) -- Windows 8 is to deliver two new features that could help mute a past history of being the company that delivers blue screens of death and malware magnets. Briefly, Windows 8 is going to make Windows easier to deal with than ever before. Considering the competition Microsoft now faces, the time is ripe for this kind of pronouncement. In a blog dated January 4, the Windows 8 engineering team reveals two new options, refresh and reset.

Both functions will be at the push of a button to help users easily reset or refresh their PCs. “The power of personalization is something we all love about PCs,” said a Steven Sinofsky,” but sometimes there is good reason to want to roll back to an earlier state. Most consumer electronics devices today can be reset to some factory state, and so we built this capability into Windows 8 too.”

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In the post authored by Desmond Lee, a Microsoft program manager, the new push-button options will empower the user to refresh or reset their machines. The latter function will be useful for those who want to give their machines to somebody else, such as a family member or coworker, and at the same time want to scrub everything off that they have downloaded. Hitting reset allows complete program and data wipeout and a fresh Windows install.

As for the refresh function, Lee said that “misconfigured settings are sometimes the cause of problems that lead to customers needing to refresh their PCs. To ensure that Refresh is both effective in fixing problems and in making sure customers don’t lose settings that they might have trouble reconfiguring, we’ve thought a great deal about which settings to preserve.”

In the refresh, Windows 8 is to preserve wireless network connections, mobile broadband connections, BitLocker and BitLocker To Go settings, Drive letter assignments, personalization settings such as lock screen background and desktop wallpaper. While the core settings are backed up, the refresh will not keep file-type associations, display settings, and Windows firewall settings.

As for business environments, where Windows 8 might be deployed across the entire corporation’s PCs, a blogger outside Microsoft said that this does not necessarily spell out the demise of IT support; only that their troubleshooting rounds may be eased.

In sum, the reset removes all personal data, apps, and settings from the PC and reinstall Windows. The refresh keeps all personal data, Metro style apps, and important settings from the PC, but reinstalls Windows. The time required doing a refresh or a reset is an estimated eight minutes and 22 seconds for a refresh and six minutes and 12 seconds for a quick reset. The Register notes that these numbers are based on a Samsung PC with an i5 processor and 4GB of RAM running the developer preview handed out at the Build Conference in September.

A thorough reset takes 23 minutes and 52 seconds. The “thorough” option will write random patterns to every sector of the drive, overwriting existing data visible to the operating system.

More information: http://blogs.msdn. … your-pc.aspx

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Xbw
Jan 05, 2012

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Haha I find it kinda funny that Microsoft is streamlining the reset button. Do you know how many bonehead users will be pressing this often because they are too dumb to understand their computers?

This will also make tech support easier. Instead of having to learn the whole English language to deal with their American customers, now tech support just needs to learn a few key phrases like "Sir have you pressed the big red button yet? Go ahead and press it."
FrankHerbert
Jan 05, 2012

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Well hey, at least it's better than having to take the whole rig to the "GENIUS BAR" and have one of them do the exact same thing for you, at a cost of course.
Parsec
Jan 05, 2012

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LOL - the first thing I thought on reading this article is that while some calls will be eliminated... a whole new breed will be generated, like, "I did the Reset cause Word crashed and I was seeing funny things and now I can't find the document I need to have delivered to the CEO in 10 minutes.", and then trying to explain that his data is gone... forever.
_0_1_2_3
Jan 05, 2012

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Will this reset button also get rid of all the crap that computer vendors pre-install on every PC? Ie., when you reset do you end up with a computer with nothing but Windows on it? No more trial versions of Office, no more demo games, no more useless HP/Acer/Dell "utilities" that start up every time you boot?
wiyosaya
Jan 05, 2012

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I have to agree with you Parsec as I think it is likely that this will cause a whole new class of support calls from the "I thought it was the right thing to do" crowd.

I also think that virus writers will find a way to work around this.

It will be interesting to see where this goes and if it lasts beyond the first service pack. IMHO, being a long-time computer software engineer, the "dummy" class of computer user that needs this to combat say viruses, is exactly the class that is going to have a lot of problems. IMHO, not getting a virus is easy if you follow certain best practices.

Lastly, the source of this article, The Register, is loathed for providing useless and not necessarily true information.
cmn
Jan 05, 2012

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Nothing like rolling back a computer to it's factory condition, eliminating all the security updates that were issued interim. Virus writers won't have to work around it, as there will be perpetually unpatched computers available at the press of a button.
Feldagast
Jan 05, 2012

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Or a virus that just institutes the reset command without prompts, over and over and over, haha.
Squirrel
Jan 05, 2012

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A little office "jollity" I see ahead of secretly pressing the button while a coworker is out of the room and eliminating months of productively essential customization.
Feldagast
Jan 05, 2012

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Think they would almost need to password protect that feature.
Noumenon
Jan 05, 2012

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Vista ultimate already has restore points, plus ability to save an image of entire system (OS & apps),.. is this similar?
Smashin_Z_1885
Jan 05, 2012

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Ok, so let me see here.. The entire tone, and idea of this whole 'feature', is that windows still has problems, and this feature simply makes it easier to correct the problems. That's a good idea actually, and reminds me of the "quick restore" feature that my 1995 Compaq came with (on CD)
It would be nice if microsoft could solve their problems, eliminating any need for a feature such as this. The idea is that the computer should not have problems to begin with. Like a Mac, for example. Or the computer in the car, or the microwave oven, or the one in the tv, or the one in my cheap cell phone. All of those work fine all the time. oops, yes, I know, they are all proprietary operating systems, but that's a good thing.
I do still like Windows though,, can't help it, the games, the freedom of software choices, the ability to customize your PC however you like, are all truly great things, and I love that. So I'm not bashing Windows in anyway.
Sinister1811
Jan 06, 2012

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Hopefully Windows 8 doesn't constantly ask for permission from the user to access their own files.
kochevnik
Jan 06, 2012

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I've had my FreeBSD system since 1998 and I see no reason why it won't outlive me. The OS is more robust than the hardware where it resides. Windows found it's real niche in the Xbox plug-n-prey. No surprise they've institutionalized the reset button. It's like a bum reveling in his failure, drawing crowds that make him a celebrity and something to be sought after. In the MS case it's a crowd of suits. Yech.

I can't wait to see that button on the Win8 SERVER EDITION. What kind of morons would buy a 24/7 server with a big reset button? Corporate Americans, apparently. That stuff is tantamount to admitting you suck. They should sell MS servers at Wally mart.
evropej
Jan 06, 2012

Rank: 2.3 / 5 (3)
I have been using acronis to image my system for years. These noobs at Microsoft are completely detached from their end users. Why bother doing virus scans, troubleshooting, calling support, paying for cleaners or fixers when you can restore your whole system in less than five minutes from an image which resides safely in another drive. As someone who fixes computer for fun, I find that most virsuses these days reside in system restore files since they are save havens for bugs. Why not spend them money and time on fixing the issues to begin with instead of providing silly options which will cause more problems with noobs accidentally wiping their systems? Then again, just look at the interface for windows 8 and then everything starts to make sense. I have a feeling mac and apple will become even more popular when this is released. Get ready for the commercials again, I really enjoyed them lol.

PS this is what happens when you outsource the work to third world countries. FAIL
chardo137
Jan 06, 2012

Rank: 4 / 5 (1)
I switched to a Mac about a year ago. Now I really don't want to play with windows ever again. I have another computer that I am going to switch over to linux because windows is SOOOOOOO frustrating! To Bill Gates:get a clue dude!
wiyosaya
Jan 06, 2012

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@evropei:

I took the same approach with Ghost, but now with Image for Linux since Ghost dropped Linux support, and I agree, it is simply the best method of doing something like this because you can return to a known good state where you may not have to reinstall all your software. This is the one thing not explicitly stated in this article - that if you "reset" you will need to reinstall your software.

However, I would not put the blame on third-world countries. I would put the blame on execs who pretend to know what they are doing.
btb101
Jan 08, 2012

Rank: 4.5 / 5 (2)
just a slightly more advanced version of the roll-back that appeared with windows Mil... what a piece of junk that was...
m/s have always produced a bad o/s then a good one then a bad one..
win 95, bad, 98, good, mil, bad, xp good.. vista.. OMG, win 7 good.. for m/s operating systems. but bad compared to every other o/s.
i expect win 8 to be really bad with a few good features. my real money is on windows 9..

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