NASA Planning for Possible Landings on Europa
December 15, 2011 By Paul Scott Anderson, Universe Today
Credit: NASA/Ted Stryk
All these worlds are yours except Europa, Attempt no landing there, Use them together use them in peace
Despite that famous cryptic warning in the film 2010: The Year We Make Contact, NASA is planning for a possible attempted landing on Jupiters moon Europa. This is a mission that many people have been hoping for, since Europa is believed to have a liquid water ocean beneath the icy surface (as well as lakes within the surface crust itself), making it a prime location in the search for life elsewhere in the solar system. Two landers are being proposed which would launch in 2020 and land about six years later.
As stated by Kevin Hand of JPL, Europa, I think, is the premier place to go for extant life. Europa really does give us this opportunity to look for living life in the ocean that is there today, and has been there for much of the history of the solar system.
While the landers wouldnt be able to access the ocean water which is well below the surface, they could analyze the surface composition with a mass spectrometer, seismometers and cameras. The mass spectrometer could detect organics on the surface if there are any. The landers probably wouldnt last too long though, because of the intense radiation from Jupiter on the unprotected surface (as Europa has only a very slight, tenuous atmosphere). Accessing any of the water from its ocean or lakes would require drilling deep down, something for a more advanced future mission.
Another mission being considered is a Europa orbiter, which could also launch in 2020. In some ways that might be even better, as it could provide a broader detailed study of the moon over a longer time period. Of course if both missions could be done, that would be fantastic, but budgets will probably only allow for one of them. The lander mission is estimated to probably cost about $800 million to $2 billion, while an orbiter would cost about $4.7 billion.
It might be noted that a return mission to Saturns moon Enceladus would also be possible, especially since the water from its subsurface ocean or sea (depending on the various working models of its interior and geology) can be sampled directly from its water vapour geysers, no need to drill down. The Cassini spacecraft has already done that more than once, and has found organics of various complexities, but Cassinis instruments cant detect life itself.
Either destination would be exciting, as both are thought to be two of the most likely places in the solar system, besides Earth of course, to be inhabitable or even possibly inhabited. Everywhere on Earth where there is water, there is life. That may or may not be true for Europa or Enceladus, but well never know unless we look.
Source: Universe Today
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Omatumr wears a tinfoil hat.
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"It puts the lotion in the basket."
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NASA's space exploration fraud is exposed.
Spend $2 billion on a mission without any real chance of doing anything useful.
You could make a THOUSAND ten-megawatt wind turbines for that much money, which would be enough to power 2.5 MILLION homes for free for 30 years.
Instead, they choose to make more deficit spending on a useless tin can.
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"Instead, they choose to make more deficit spending on a useless tin can."... and you choose to deficit spend on useless fiberglass wings and things that will only last a small fraction of your 30 yrs.
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I do agree though, can't we use nuclear power to melt through the ice? We have antarctica to test that sort of thing on!
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I have no desire to learn omatumr's theories on dealing with "delinquent teenagers". I'm assuming it involves pederasty.
"The Paranoid Style in American Politics"
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oh, and abuse reported.
As per the story, I thought that what was holding us back was the fact we'd need to figure out how to remotely drill over a mile through ice to get to the water... So if this is just for a surface mission I didn't think the surface is what we were interested in.
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I'm kinda biting my fingernails on which I would rather have. The Mars orbiter provides great information and pics. How do you thing they were able to find such good spots for the new pathfinder mission.
On the other hand, I really like the close ups and spot science that an orbiter can't provide.
I'm going to have to go with the orbiter first, then use that information to find the best drilling spot, and shelve the lander for now.
Unless they can muster the political will to get it all in one mission - an orbiter with an attached lander/driller - with the flexibility to choose a landing spot upon arrival.
it would be one very expensive mission, but it would be cheaper than a bunch of smaller missions.
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There are places where the ice has cracked and water has sploshed up and subsequently frozen holding a record of what was/is in the water.
Alternatively we/you could bail out the banksters for only 100 times the cost.
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I'm american, and I totally approve of spending Europe's money to fund these missions.
We've ponied up so much for space missions in the past, it's time that the Europeans really start compensating us for allowing their 'astronauts' up into a station that they barely contributed to (1 module and a few supply missions) and taking them up to space on the shuttle throughout the decades.
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As opposed to the face that tevatron was the biggest accelerator for 20 years?
Look, apparently you missed the sarcasm in my remark because it was not a big **** contest, or about asking europe to pay its fair share.
I was pointing out that it's mildly rude the way you stated how you thought americans should spend their tax dollars. If you like the mission, then fine. We'll worry about what we will pay for or not - you are a little removed from america, and what our priorities should be.
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Yes. But there would be no drilling of course. The probe would drop a nuclear powered heating element onto the surface which would melt it's way through the ice, either keeping in touch with the lander via radio or through a trailing wire.
Getting to the surface is the hard part.
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Space Science doesn't have anything like the U.S. military industrial complex to promote it. Unless of course the U.S. military industrial complex can use it to murder people.
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Well... Conservatives are certainly scumbags.
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Imagine what could have been built with the anticipated cost of America's war crime in Afghanistan and Iraq? $4 trillion dollars.
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I wouldn't call it a war crime, but I know, I've done the math.
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That is enough for 16 Terawatts worth of peak power, or 5.3 Terawatts worth of "1/3rd power".
But the Coal Tards and the shadow government would never allow something like that, because it makes too much sense.
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