India 'won't sign binding emissions pact': minister

December 27, 2011

Jayanthi Natarajan and her delegation at this month's climate change talks in Durban

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India said Tuesday it would reject any global pact legally binding it to cut greenhouse gas emissions as such a move could stifle economic growth needed to eradicate poverty.

India said Tuesday it would reject any global pact legally binding it to cut greenhouse gas emissions as such a move could stifle economic growth needed to eradicate poverty.

Environment Minister Jayanthi Natarajan's statement came after a UN conference in Durban earlier this month agreed for the first time to seek to negotiate a legally enforceable agreement to control all nations' emissions.

"There is no question of signing a legally binding agreement at this point of our development. We need to make sure that our development does not suffer," Natarajan told the upper house of parliament.

"Our emissions are bound to grow as we have to ensure our social and economic development and fulfil the imperative of poverty eradication," the minister added.

Some 42 percent of Indians, or 455 million people, live on less than $1.25 a day, according to the World Bank.

The marathon UN in Durban approved a roadmap towards an accord that for the first time would bring all major greenhouse-gas emitters blamed for climate change under a single legal roof.

If approved as scheduled in 2015, the pact will be operational from 2020 and become the prime weapon in the fight against .

But emerging Asian giants India and China, which have become huge emitters of carbon over the last half-dozen years, have long resisted calls to reduce emissions.

The fast-growing economies said the burden of cuts should be on developed countries and that they cannot commit to binding targets which might hurt their ability to improve living standards.

India and China do not fall under existing 1997 constraints aimed at fighting global warming as they are developing countries.

(c) 2011 AFP

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ThanderMAX
Dec 27, 2011

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US is still the TOP carbon emitters and they will not reduce it, so why can't India ?
antialias_physorg
Dec 27, 2011

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"There is no question of signing a legally binding agreement at this point of our development. We need to make sure that our development does not suffer,"

Oh that development will suffer once the storms, draughts and floods hit home. But then it's the people that pay (with lives and taxes)- not the corporations that benefit from the unhindered development.
ryggesogn2
Dec 27, 2011

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India and China do not fall under existing 1997 Kyoto Protocol constraints aimed at fighting global warming as they are developing countries.

Hamstringing the 'developed' countries won't help the developing countries develop faster.
brianweymes
Dec 27, 2011

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Each nation cares more about its own self interest than it does the rest of the planet. But you can't escape climate change by outgrowing it economically. Our descendants are going to experience its most acute effects and wonder how we would be so stupid.
ryggesogn2
Dec 27, 2011

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Each nation cares more about its own self interest than it does the rest of the planet.

Each person cares about his own self interest. Why is this wrong?
Such self interest has created the most free, prosperous and healthy societies that have ever existed in the world.
If I care about my health and the health and wealth of my family, those I am directly responsible for, and if everyone else does the same in an environment where no one can gang up and use violence on anyone else, (like govt does), we must all work together in our self-interests, to improve the health and wealth of ourselves and our families. This is bottom up synthesis.
Top down analysis and central planning fails because someone like 'brain..' thinks he knows what's best and wants to gang up and force people to live his way.
Pirouette
Dec 27, 2011

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Yes. . . .down with the greedy corporations. Abolish ALL corporations and their money-grubbing ties to banks and governments. Abolish the investments in corporations that money-grubbing common people and their dirty money, are totally corrupting the economy, which would be a GOOD economy if there were no such thing as investment portfolios for ANYONE.
Oh wait. . .Obama likes to invest taxpayer money in "green" companies with doubtful future didididididividends. . .(sorry, stuttering without my teleprompter) :)
Oh, and he invests in failing banks and corporations like GE, GM, pharmaceutical companies, failing immigration laws and the DNC. and will resurrect "cap and trade". Did I leave anything out? Oh yes, Obama should invest in pajamagram.com to pay for hoodiefooties for all the half frozen people who can no longer afford their electric bills when the coal companies are forbidden to dig out the coal for home heating. Corporations are all evil. Down with these blood suckers.
Pirouette
Dec 27, 2011

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Rygg2. . .the coming social revolution won't allow you any self-interest for you and your family. Self interest will be abolished and the COLLECTIVE will rule, with Obama and his appointees as head rulers. We have to prepare for it NOW. All the Liberals will be celebrating and invading private homes and looting stores. . . .Utopia is the future.
Pirouette
Dec 27, 2011

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LOL. . . .just kidding. . . .but I hear that Pakistan and India are having some issues. . .again. They both have nuclear weapons. . .that's the thing I'm worried about.
Noumenon
Dec 27, 2011

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No country is going to voluntarily tank it's own economy over speculation about the global climate. I've been saying this for years. The last group of people to understand this are naive tree-huggers.

Cutting across the grain of economies will never work. Technology is the only way to reduce dependance on oil/coal and this will take time, and will need to develop in accordance with existing markets. Welcome to reality.
omatumr
Dec 27, 2011

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World leaders still promote false AGW fears, but did not condemn manipulation of global temperature data documented in Climategate emails.

A new book for children has a genuine message of Hope to counter false AGW fears this Holiday Season:

"Love Your Monsters: Post-environmentalism and the Anthropocene" by M. Shellenberger and T. Nordhaus, The Breakthrough Institute (2011)

Here's Professor Curry's comments and a link to Amazon where you can preview the book:

http://judithcurr...onsters/

Other genuine messages of Hope are recorded in every atom, leaf and rock:

http://dl.dropbox...Fear.pdf

Today genuine messages of Hope are evaporating false messages of Climate(gate) Fears!

Today all is well,
Oliver K. Manuel
www.omatumr.com
ShotmanMaslo
Dec 28, 2011

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But you can't escape climate change by outgrowing it economically.


Its still a better alternative. Economic development outweights stable weather in utility, even more so for undeveloped countries.

ryggesogn2
Dec 28, 2011

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But you can't escape climate change by outgrowing it economically.

Humans have never escaped a changing climate. They adapted and it is easier to adapt,and prosper, with technology.
Shootist
Dec 31, 2011

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But you can't escape climate change by outgrowing it economically.

Humans have never escaped a changing climate. They adapted and it is easier to adapt,and prosper, with technology.


Besides, all indications are it is better warm than cold.

"The Polar Bears will be fine." - Freeman Dyson
bluehigh
Jan 01, 2012

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No country is going to voluntarily tank it's own economy over speculation about the global climate.
- Noumenon

Australia has legislated to destroy its economy and save the world with a tax on carbon emissions.

The polar bears might be fine but the less fortunate in Australia are just going to have to use much less electricity or gas. The wealthy of course can afford to pay more for power.

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