UN climate talks on edge heading into final hours

December 9, 2011 By ARTHUR MAX , Associated Press

UN climate talks on edge heading into final hours (AP)

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Protesters, one holding a placard reading: "Trust U.S." are seen during climate conference in Durban, South Africa, Thursday, Dec. 8, 2011. The conference is focusing on efforts to move toward a future agreement to legally bind all nations to emissions targets, including China and the United States. The two-week climate conference is in the final push before Friday's scheduled closing. (AP Photo/Schalk van Zuydam)

(AP) -- The United States, China and India could scuttle attempts to save the only treaty governing global warming, Europe's top negotiator said Friday hours before a 194-nation U.N. climate conference was to close.

After two weeks of negotiations, talks went through the night Thursday with delegates struggling to keep Durban from becoming the graveyard of the 1997 Kyoto Protocol on global warming.

"If there is no further movement from what I have seen until 4 o'clock this morning, then I must say I don't think that there will be a deal in Durban," said Connie Hedegaard, the European commissioner for climate action.

The proposed package would see the European Union extend its commitments to reduce under the 1997 , but only if all other countries agree to negotiate a new treaty with legally binding obligations for everyone, not just the wealthy Kyoto group.

The EU has said it will not renew its emissions reduction pledges, which expire in one year, without agreement to begin work on a treaty to replace the Kyoto accord that would compel all countries to control their emissions, including the United States and China which are the world's two largest . The U.S. never ratified the protocol, though it has made voluntary efforts to reduce emissions.

The Europeans won critical support late Thursday from an alliance of small islands and the world's - about 120 nations altogether - for its proposal to start negotiations now on a deal to take effect in 2018 or possibly after 2020. Brazil and South Africa also said they would accept binding emissions limits under a new agreement. The two countries are among the countries in the so-called that emit the most .

Ministers or senior from 28 countries then worked late through the night to try to bring the U.S., China and India on board.

Hedegaard said the three countries are still not on board and could scuttle the deal.

Both China and the U.S. have said they would be amenable to the EU proposal to negotiate a post-2020 agreement, but each attached riders that appeared to hobble prospects for unanimous acceptance.

The United States, whose Congress is generally seen as hostile on the climate issue, is concerned about conceding any competitive business advantage to China. Beijing, too, is resisting the notion that it has become a developed country on par with the U.S. or Europe, saying it still has hundreds of millions of impoverished people.

Rich countries are legally bound to reduce carbon emissions while developing countries take voluntary actions.

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omatumr
Dec 10, 2011

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I understand that a new video message of Hope will remind a world in despair - as Earths seasonal climate changes accompany the turning of the calender pages of life from 2011 to 2012 - that Einstein's early fundamental discoveries confirm:

1. "We live today because the force that sustains life as a part of our dynamic cosmos is benevolent, powerful and beyond the control of world leaders and their army of publically funded scientists."

2. "The force that sustains life, powers the Sun and causes changes in Earths climate has been revealed over recorded history to prophets of all religions and scientists guided by observation, contemplation, and meditation on Reality, rather than by politically-correct consensus models of Reality."

omatumr
Dec 11, 2011

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The placard pictured says TRUST US, not Trust U.S.


Are those climatologists that shared a Nobel Prize with Al Gore in the picture?
Vendicar_Decarian
Dec 11, 2011

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I agree with Omatard. You can't trust the U.S. and no thinking person would make such a claim.
omatumr
Dec 11, 2011

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This new document on Global Climate Change is far more credible than the reports by the UNs IPCC.

http://cfact.org/...heck.pdf

With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
omatumr
Dec 11, 2011

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I understand that a new video message of Hope will remind a world in despair - as Earths seasonal climate changes accompany the turning of the calender pages of life from 2011 to 2012 - that Einstein's early fundamental discoveries confirm:

1. "We live today because the force that sustains life as a part of our dynamic cosmos is benevolent, powerful and beyond the control of world leaders and their army of publically funded scientists."

2. "The force that sustains life, powers the Sun and causes changes in Earths climate has been revealed over recorded history to prophets of all religions and scientists guided by observation, contemplation, and meditation on Reality, rather than by politically-correct consensus models of Reality."



Reality has two faces:

1. One scared world leaders into uniting nations to avoid mutual nuclear annihilation:

http://dl.dropbox...oots.pdf

2. The other sustains life:

http://dl.dropbox..._Not.pdf
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