Canada withdrawal from Kyoto is 'bad news': France

December 13, 2011

Canada's decision to withdraw from the Kyoto protocol is "bad news", the French foreign ministry said on Tuesday

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Smoke bellows from the Syncrude facility in the northern Alberta oil sand field in 2007 in Fort McMurray, Canada. Canada's decision to withdraw from the Kyoto protocol is "bad news" for global efforts against climate change, the French foreign ministry said on Tuesday.

Canada's decision to withdraw from the Kyoto protocol is "bad news" for global efforts against climate change, the French foreign ministry said on Tuesday.

"Canada's announcement that it is withdrawing from the Kyoto protocol is bad news for the fight against climate change," ministry spokesman Bernard Valero told journalists.

"It is out of the question to relax our efforts or to break the dynamic of the Durban agreement," he said.

Canada on Monday became the first country to declare it was formally exiting the pact, a reversal that will save it billions of dollars in fines, and poured scorn on the landmark treaty for hampering attempts to tackle pollution.

But the decision provoked heavy criticism, including from China which said the move went against international efforts to combat climate change.

Canada's decision follows a deal reached in Durban this month to create a roadmap that will for the first time bring all major greenhouse-gas emitters under a single legal roof. If approved as scheduled in 2015, it will become operational in 2020.

Canada agreed under the to reduce to 6.0 percent below 1990 levels by 2012, but its emissions of the gases blamed for damaging Earth's fragile have instead increased sharply.

The landmark pact reached in 1997 is the only that sets down targeted curbs in .

But those curbs apply only to rich countries, excluding the United States -- which has refused to ratify the accord.

(c) 2011 AFP

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bewertow
Dec 13, 2011

Rank: 2.3 / 5 (6)
Our conservative government is an American puppet. Harper does whatever he thinks the US wants him to do.
naqe
Dec 13, 2011

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I wonder what the real reason is on why Canada exited Kyoto.
The article really doesn't explain much...
omatumr
Dec 13, 2011

Rank: 1.4 / 5 (11)
It is good news for constitutional government!

Those who thought AGW propaganda was a scientific fact now face the same fears, unemployment, homelessness, and economic uncertainty that plague so many other citizens of former "Free West" countries.

While arrogance and false pride prevent government scientists and politicians from admitting past mistakes and serving society.

Constitutional government is now at stake, as President Eisenhower warned might happen in 1961:

http://noconsensu...nt-62436

http://judithcurr...t-149143

With deep regrets,
Oliver K. Manuel
www.omatumr.com/
http://myprofile....anuelo09
Callippo
Dec 13, 2011

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Yesterday, the government of Canada announced the go ahead for another $9 Billion dollar tarsands project, called Joslyn

http://www.ipolit...project/

I presume, it explains the stance of Canada a lot. Everyone needs to see this doc about the tar sands of Canada.

http://www.youtub...4IQqnmd0

Horrendous rape of a pristine wilderness.
Davecoolman
Dec 13, 2011

Rank: 2.6 / 5 (10)
Great news for Canadians, except Vindi Turd. David Suzuki and the CBC.
Davecoolman
Dec 13, 2011

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Callippo.
Have you seen the restored areas after extracting the OIL FROM THE OIL SANDS? No you haven't! by law they have to restore the land back to pristine wilderness. I have seen large areas of the reclaimed digs they are beautiful and wild!
look at the finished project not the middle.
ryggesogn2
Dec 13, 2011

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If the French don't like it, Canada must be doing something right.
Pirouette
Dec 13, 2011

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Howhot
Dec 14, 2011

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@davecool, you know that under law, mountain top removal by coal companies requires them to restore the land to "pristine wilderness". I dare you to find even ONE with google maps restored to even 1/10 of its former pristine state.

Either you are lying or you bought into a bunch of propaganda.
Davecoolman
Dec 14, 2011

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Howhot.
Did I mention US Coal or restoration of mountain tops? NO.
I agree that they should be restored back to "pristine wilderness"
So lets look at Alberta's Oil Sands. I said it's the LAW. & I have seen it with my own eyes. look at the finished project not the middle.

Greenpeace activists living in a dream world
Patrick Moore, Ph.D., Environmentalist and Greenpeace Co-Founder
December 01, 2011.
As environmental activists fly to Durban, South Africa to attack Canadas climate change position at the UN climate change talks, I cant stand idly by while false allegations continue to be made about one of Canadas most innovative and important industries: The oil sands.
Greenpeace takes an aerial picture of a Canadian oil sands mining operation and suggests this is the way it will look forever. It fails to tell the public the mine is a temporary disturbance and by law oil sands companies are required to return the site to a thriving ecosystem. with native trees.....
Davecoolman
Dec 14, 2011

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Alberta's Oil Sands cont..

by law oil sands companies are required to return the site to a thriving ecosystem, with native trees and shrubs and lakes.
Ive traveled to some of these restored sites and theyre beautiful.
Canadian oil is no dirtier than any other oil.
When the full life-cycle is calculated, oil from the Canadian oil sands emits between 18 percent higher and 8 percent lower greenhouse gases compared to other sources of crude oil.

http://m.torontosun.com/2011/12/01/greenpeace-activists-living-in-a-dream-world
Davecoolman
Dec 14, 2011

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Alberta's Oil Sands cont..

Patrick Moore, Ph.D., Environmentalist/Greenpeace Co-Founder

This is an active mining operation in the Canadian Oil Sands.
Its not a very pretty site when you open up the Earth in order to extract the oil, but after this operation is finished it will be reclaimed.
All this land around us has been mined. Look at it now. You have this beauty returning to the landscape.
Here Ive got Alder, Spruce, Aspen.
Where there was once an oil sands mining operation, you now have a beautiful, bio-diverse landscape again, where youd never know there had been a mine there in the first place.

In fact, Patrick Moore gave high praise to the oil sands' land reclamation project, stating the developers are "doing as good a job, if not better, than anywhere in the world" in restoring the blighted land to its former glory.

So Howhot why not get on the phone to Obama and get him to do his job instead of playing golf and class warfare?

Take that, Dr Fruit Fly David Suzuki
TheGhostofOtto1923
Dec 14, 2011

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@davecool, you know that under law, mountain top removal by coal companies requires them to restore the land to "pristine wilderness". I dare you to find even ONE with google maps restored to even 1/10 of its former pristine state.

Either you are lying or you bought into a bunch of propaganda.
What is the difference whether people remove a mountaintop or dig a hole or build a harbor, or nature does it? Why should one be good and the other bad?
http://neo.jpl.na...ter3.jpg
http://en.wikiped...me10.jpg
http://upload.wik...o_II.jpg

-Or this horrific example of unparalleled devastation?
http://upload.wik...lors.jpg

-Who is going remediate THESE scars?

And who is to say if we will one day be making monuments of man-made alterations of similar scale as a tribute to our heroic resourcefulness and commitment to the betterment of mankind?
omatumr
Dec 14, 2011

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Tonight there are reports of last ditch efforts to save the crooks. It won't work:

http://noconsensu...nt-62756

Earlier today NASA belatedly started asking questions, . . .

Giving $1.4 M to Washington University to confirm or deny reports that silicon carbide (SiC) grains in the Murchison meteorite are "fall-out" particles from the supernova explosion that made our elements.

That question was answered 15 years ago by Kuroda and Myers using data from Washington University, but NASA, the US NAS, the UK's RS, and the UN's IPCC apparently didn't want anyone to know that Earth's heat source - the Sun - is not stable as they claimed, but the violently unstable remains of a supernova that gave birth to the Solar Syatem five billion (5 Gyr) ago.

Here's the rest of the story with links to data and observations:

http://dl.dropbox...asks.pdf

With deep regrets,
Oliver K. Manuel
www.omatumr.com/
Vendicar_Decarian
Dec 18, 2011

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"I wonder what the real reason is on why Canada exited Kyoto." - nage

The real reason is the Alberta Tar Sands. Western Canada is making lots of money converting tar to oil and selling it to the U.S. to burn. Western Canada elected the current Conservative Government in Canada.

But barely elected them.

In addition the exit comes just before Canada would be required to start paying billions in fines for not complying with the Kyoto Accord that it had signed.

Since the signature, Canada basically sat on it's hands and did nothing to reduce it's CO2 emissions, which are now substantially higher than 1990 levels rather than lower as required by Kyoto.

I can't blame the current Conservative government in Canada for this failure to act on their commitments. The previous Liberal government is mostly at fault.
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