Pope calls for responsible, credible climate deal

Nov 27, 2011 By NICOLE WINFIELD , Associated Press
Pope calls for responsible, credible climate deal (AP)
Pope Benedict XVI holds an audience for members of the Caritas, in St.Peter's Basilica at the Vatican, Thursday, Nov. 24, 2011. Pope Benedict XVI says the global economic crisis requires a courageous show of brotherhood. Benedict also expressed concern in a speech Thursday at the Vatican that there is a risk that hope will diminish amid the growing troubles, including the uncertainty that young people feel amid the economic crisis. The pope said "humanity is searching for signs of hope." (AP Photo/Andrew Medichini)

(AP) -- Pope Benedict XVI called Sunday for delegates attending this week's U.N. climate change conference in South Africa to craft a responsible and credible deal to cut greenhouse gases that takes into account the needs of the poor.

Some 25,000 government officials, lobbyists and scientists are expected to attend the two-week conference that opens Monday in Durban. The immediate focus is the pending expiration of the , the 1997 agreement requiring 37 industrialized countries to slash carbon emissions to 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

Western governments are expected to try to get China and other growing economies to accept legally binding curbs on , as well. Poor countries want the signatories to accept further reductions in a second commitment period up to at least 2017.

Benedict, who has been dubbed the "green pope" for his environmental concerns, launched an appeal Sunday to government representatives attending the Durban conference to craft a responsible revised Kyoto deal.

"I hope that all members of the international community agree on a responsible and credible response to this worrisome and complex phenomenon, taking into account the needs of the poorest and future generations," he said during his traditional Sunday blessing from his studio overlooking St. Peter's Square.

Benedict denounced the failure of world leaders to agree to a successor treaty to Kyoto during a 2009 U.N. in Copenhagen. He said then that world peace depends on safeguarding God's creation.

The 84-year-old German pope has voiced increasing concern about protecting the environment in his encyclicals, during foreign trips, speeches to diplomats and in his annual peace message. Under Benedict's watch, the Vatican has installed photovoltaic cells on its main auditorium to convert sunlight into electricity and has joined a reforestation project aimed at offsetting its CO2 emissions.

For the pontiff, it's a moral issue: Church teaching holds that man must respect creation because it's destined for the benefit of humanity's future. He has argued that climate change and natural catastrophes threaten people's rights to life, food, health and ultimately peace.

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Vendicar_Decarian
2.8 / 5 (9) Nov 27, 2011
Our enormously productive economy demands that we make consumption our way of life, that we convert the buying and use of goods into rituals, that we seek our spiritual satisfactions, our ego satisfactions, in consumption. The measure of social status, of social acceptance, of prestige, is now to be found in our consumptive patterns. The very meaning and significance of our lives today expressed in consumptive terms. The greater the pressures upon the individual to conform to safe and accepted social standards, the more does he tend to express his aspirations and his individuality in terms of what he wears, drives, eats- his home, his car, his pattern of food serving, his hobbies.

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Vendicar_Decarian
2.8 / 5 (9) Nov 27, 2011
These commodities and services must be offered to the consumer with a special urgency. We require not only forced draft consumption, but expensive consumption as well. We need things consumed, burned up, worn out, replaced, and discarded at an ever increasing pace. We need to have people eat, drink, dress, ride, live, with ever more complicated and, therefore, constantly more expensive consumption. The home power tools and the whole do-it-yourself movement are excellent examples of expensive consumption." - Victor Lebow
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5 / 5 (3) Nov 27, 2011
Damn Vendi...you scared me for a minute!! It appeared that you were being verbally profound and exceptionally farsighted. That you had, at last, risen above baiting we 'common-folk' with your vast intellect and would now transform yourself into the gifted and ethical sage that hungers to get out into the real world and make things CHANGE! Ahhh...Vendi, Vendi, VENDI! I thought for a moment you had become the magnificent Butterfly from the disturbed but gifted (Rainbow-clad, I did NOT say 'gay' but if the shoe fits, wear pumps!) caterpillar that you so often demonstrate. Nevertheless, we can be friends again! You may feel free to come into my shop-of-horrors and purchases, 2Day ONLY, at 55% off (The video games too!) Just print this off and bring it into the store. I will be in...everyone knows you...if anyone else tries it, be warned! We are Fine Young Cannibals and we will, "Eat those who would subdue us"! I have hope for you Vendi!
word-to-ya-muthas
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3 / 5 (4) Nov 27, 2011
Dis B a good day, the pope thinks that mudda earf is hurtin too an we needs to help her not die. 2Day B A good Day, now where is Al Gore so we can hab D meetin wif da pope togthr so tht dey can B talkin 2 eachother N makin stuff happen wif our terrible environment. Mudda earf is hurtin peoples, we B needin to save her from our own deathgrip on her throat.

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kochevnik
2.3 / 5 (3) Nov 27, 2011
Nazi Pope and tag teamer David de Rothschild continue their neofeudalism by advocating a supernational global tax. A trans-national enforcement police will be created when the Rothschild's media screams "Greenhouse polluters out of compliance!" and the end of national sovereignty will commence. What better ploy for a future of non-heretical debt slaves than a tax on breathing?

Rothschilds sociopaths care nothing about the environment they are behind most of the Earth's pollution. They simply want to curry favor with all sides so as to find a weak point in which to acquire even more power and control.

The only green untaxed Nazi Pope dreams about while pocketing the world's wealth in his Rothschild bankster sidepocket is the green color of rotting heretic corpses. Hitler was making progress for the Vatican but he was prone to stupid moves like taking our Russian winters head on.
ziphead
4.1 / 5 (9) Nov 27, 2011
Yo, Pope; you may start by revoking your order that your flock breeds like rabbits.
Then we may all have a hope in hell, with or without you.
FainAvis
4 / 5 (8) Nov 27, 2011
Papa Ratzinger. Your organization has burned, tortured and intimidated countless people to gain the power you now have. You forfeit thereby all credibility as a bringer of peace.
maxcypher
4.4 / 5 (7) Nov 27, 2011
I totally agree with @ziphead: Stop telling your "huddled masses" to not use birth control. Overpopulation is the root cause of pretty much everything that is going wrong today. Just because your religion hates sex and loves guilt doesn't mean we should all perish in our own waste. 99%
mvg
4.2 / 5 (5) Nov 27, 2011
Rather than living in utter and shameless luxury and telling others what to do--How about giving your ungodly (ill gotten) wealth to those who need it--and stop pretending to be God's spokesman on Earth.

Better yet--HOW ABOUT TAXING THE CHURCH?

BY THE WAY--How much did you add to greenhouse emissions by burning heretics at the stake during the dark ages?
mvg
4 / 5 (4) Nov 27, 2011
Oh sorry, I forgot---
What we call the Dark Ages are what you call the 1000 year reign of Christ.
kochevnik
2.3 / 5 (3) Nov 27, 2011
David Rothschild lamenting how hard it is to get the One World Government with Nazi Pope as God's authority (Catholic means "unified") bootstrapped: http://www.youtub...dNpL30BU

Ecologists should not be confused with Pantheists. The latter are a religion which deems Earth as the one true organism and humans as parasites. Pantheists see the solution as killing humans through war, famine, diesease and depopulation efforts like genocide and eugenics. This dovetails nicely with the Vatican's desire to see all heretics eliminated and feudalism restored. All survivors will run on a meter. In feudalistic times the Chur4ch was the one sole authority on all things unworldly.
guesta0
1 / 5 (3) Nov 28, 2011
I do agree with the Pope that there is global warming and an environmental crisis.

The Pope is also saying there are hungry, and dying, people in Somalia to be helped out. I am also saying the same.
Nerdyguy
1 / 5 (6) Nov 28, 2011
Every time I see the current Pope, I can't help thinking of Lenar Hoyt.
kochevnik
3 / 5 (4) Nov 28, 2011
I do agree with the Pope that there is global warming and an environmental crisis.

The Pope is also saying there are hungry, and dying, people in Somalia to be helped out. I am also saying the same.
Do you also agree that his policies led directly to these disasters?
rawa1
3 / 5 (2) Nov 28, 2011
The situation in Somalia is traditional conflict between Muslims and Etiopians. It has anything to do with global warming or even with stance of Pope to GW. People in Somalia are really hungry and dying, and this is just a bare fact.

PhysOrg authors should judge the presentation of such articles at PhysOrg, because it will attract political commenters, who are spreading various ideologies here, instead of scientists, dealing with facts.
flashgordon
not rated yet Nov 28, 2011
This is why if Physorg wants to ask the Pope what to do, they should ask Mithras, Zues, Babylonian gods, Native American indian gods, African gods and everybody elses gods and all their psuedo-science archaeologists for the evidences for all their religions as well. Oh, but we won't do that will we? We're christians and the righteous religion around here!
rawa1
3 / 5 (2) Nov 28, 2011
The highest theoretical authority we have now are Grand Ayatollahs, but their influence is not reliant on any codified structure. It is an honorific based on their followers' veneration.

In short, there is no such thing as a Muslim Pope. But it would be interesting to get Grand Ayatollahs opinion regarding the AGW - just for the sake of symmetry. There is 1.5 billion of Muslims and 2.1 billions of Christians on the world.
Nerdyguy
1 / 5 (6) Nov 28, 2011
This is why if Physorg wants to ask the Pope what to do, they should ask Mithras, Zues, Babylonian gods, Native American indian gods, African gods and everybody elses gods and all their psuedo-science archaeologists for the evidences for all their religions as well. Oh, but we won't do that will we? We're christians and the righteous religion around here!


In actuality, PhysOrg is just reprinting an Associated Press article that was widely run.