Libel case against the scientific journal Nature begins
November 14, 2011 by Bob Yirka
(PhysOrg.com) -- The British science journal Nature, which publishes both purely academic papers and editorial pieces, is being sued in a British court by a former editor of the theoretical physics journal Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, for libel. In the suit, Mohamed El Naschie, an Egyptian mathematician and engineer, alleges claims made by Nature in an article published back in 2008, damaged his reputation.
The case highlights a growing concern in the scientific community, at least in Britain, that individuals or corporations are increasingly turning to libel suits to prevent information about them being released. The end result, some worry, is that it will lead to less scientific debate, and subsequently sloppy science that will serve no one but those conducting science purely for the purpose of profit.
In the case of Mr. Naschie, Nature pointed out in the article in question what it had come to learn from speaking with various sources in the scientific community, namely that Mr. Naschie was using the journal he was working for to further his own career by publishing his own articles, rather than other’s in the field as is traditionally done in other such journals. The point being, that such articles wouldn’t necessarily have to pass a stringent peer review process before being printed, which might lead some to suggest that they weren’t up to snuff. Which is pretty much what Nature wrote.
But in printing such assertions an article, the publishers at Nature chose to attack an individual, which they knew would severely damage his reputation. They stuck their necks out for what they believed was a noble cause: exposing a research scientist who was side-stepping the time-tested process used by scientists the world over to maintain trust in the scientific community, the peer review process. Without it, journals would be filled with articles claiming all manner of nonsense forcing those interested in serious science to seek more private avenues to discern what was actually being achieved in any particular field.
Thus, the case is not just about Nature and Mr. Naschie, it’s about the rules of law and whether they can or should be used by those seeking to subvert the peer review process or whether journals such as Nature should be allowed to lay claims against an individual in such a public and sometimes humiliating way.
Of course this one case won’t settle the matter once and for all; law is a constantly evolving process. But whichever side wins in this case, it’s likely to serve as a very important precedent in future lawsuits.
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It happens in other media also, such as in news journals where plagiarism sometimes is detected. Where is the honesty?
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There was speculation that the editor-in-chief of Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, M. El Naschie, misused his power to publish his work without appropriate peer review. The journal had published 322 papers with El Naschie as author since 1993. The last issue of December 2008 featured five of his papers. http://elnaschiew...ost.html
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The privacy of action is the basic principle of democracy. IMO the public voting is counterproductive from this perspective - the people should be able to disable the users and their posts on private basis, but their voting shouldn't affect the others, until they're explicitly agree with it. For example, if I don't like the ommatur's posts, I should have the opportunity to disable him from all threads (optionally including all posts, which are reacting directly to him). But for other people such posts would remain visible. Such approach would eliminate both spammers, both voting trolls soon.
I'm somehow surprised, why no forum implemented this simple feature yet. If nothing else, it would eliminate the traffic. Why to download the posts from server,which I don't want to?
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Of course everyone else has to bust their rears working. The few exceptions have no shame; they're usually a joke in their respective communities...
About the commenting system:
Agreed with Callippo. An alternative solution I'd like to see is an option to see only the 1st post of each commenter. This way you ignore long discussions and see only varied opinions.
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Nature is BRITISH. They have rather unusual libel laws. This site is also British BUT the servers are in the US, last time I checked anyway it was in Fullerton CA.
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This part is interesting
So maybe things aren't quite as bad Web sites like this and Charlie's as he imagines.
Still the rules in England for libel are quite different than in the us. This guy could sue the British bookstores that carry Nature. The lorries that ship it. The guy that carried it from the lorry to the shop. Its WAY over the top. Unless the guy is dead then they say anything. Perhaps Nature might look into that. Accidents happen but I suspect he would have to have been dead at the time they wrote it. The murder rate in London would start to look like Los Angeles or New York.
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