Internet keeps government honest: Google chief

November 13, 2011

Broader adoption of the Internet will keep governments on their toes as wired-up citizens exercise their newfound powers

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Eric Schmidt, executive chairman of Google Inc., speaks at the CEO Summit during the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in Honolulu, Hawaii, on November 12. Broader adoption of the Internet will keep governments on their toes as wired-up citizens exercise their newfound power to check rights abuses, Google chief Eric Schmidt said on Saturday.

Broader adoption of the Internet will keep governments on their toes as wired-up citizens exercise their newfound power to check rights abuses, Google chief Eric Schmidt said on Saturday.

"In nations and communities around the world, citizens are turning to online tools to keep their governments honest," he told on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation () forum in Honolulu.

"Whistleblowing has never been so easy," he said.

Schmidt cited demonstrations that toppled the leaders of Tunisia and Egypt in which activists used Facebook to schedule protests, Twitter to coordinate them and YouTube to broadcast the events to the world.

"Online citizens can find like-minded allies, they can find like-minded diasporas from a country," he said.

With 52 percent of the under the age of 30, the youth can have a bigger say on issues because they are the most prolific users of the Internet.

"They are the ones who are online, that's how you reach them, that's how they talk to each other. They share applications and proxy and circumvention tools and help magnify each others' causes," he said.

But while governments should not ignore online protests, Schmidt also warned that they could be exaggerated.

"It's easy in the online world to create the impression of a revolution in the form of noise. It's important to understand what is a legitimate protest and whether it's just people trying to create some noise... some excitement."

Greater adoption of the Internet will lead to the creation of two global systems -- the physical sphere where the government has power over its people and a where people can have more influence, he said.

And there's little place to hide for those who do bad.

Atrocities against citizens can be documented more easily and "we can start trials against evil-doers before (their acts are) even stopped," he said.

"There are no caves online."

With only an estimated two billion of the global population of seven billion online, there is still room for expansion, Schmidt said.

(c) 2011 AFP

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knikiy
Nov 13, 2011

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with a little help from Wikileaks, et al
Sinister1811
Nov 13, 2011

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Especially with Wikileaks. ;)
Peter Cao
Nov 13, 2011

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Google's era under Eric Schmidt had involved into multiple crimes in Stanford which is fascism by nature.

Google's Eric Schmidt had abused google resources to financially and politicially support a criminal suspect named Gabriele Scheler, along with a Stanford Computer Science faculty Sebastian Thrun, against ruling from Stanford and police authorities. During their fight with Stanford, Eric Schmidt's side had murdered an innocent Stanford student May Zhou in 2007 to threaten me and to terrorize Stanford. When they found I would not compromise a bit but actively tried to clarify the case, Eric Schmidt's side did plot a murder on me as well. The only reason they didn't make it a reality is becaue they were closely watched by police and they are afraid of leaving evidence (not becasuse they have any mercy on me as a human being, fascism by nature.) Eric Schmidt lost his CEO position because of his involvment into these crimes. Proof of real names, dates, photos along with a police cas
Peter Cao
Nov 13, 2011

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Eric Schmidt lost his CEO position because of his involvment into these crimes. Proof of real names, dates, photos along with a police case number are listed in my blog link [ http://tysurl.com/BsEnQ4 ].

Eric Schmidt and Sebastian Thrun had not paid for their crimes and they would have to, despite all the hypes about them.
ryggesogn2
Nov 13, 2011

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What is Google doing to keep China's govt honest?

The concept was noted in the book "Sovereign Individual" many years ago.
ryggesogn2
Nov 13, 2011

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"The Sovereign Individual" predicts the internet will free individuals from state power. Networked communications will force nation-states to compete for the sovereign individuals by providing incentives for them to live in their state. The Swiss at one time attracted the wealthy with an annual fixed fee instead of tax rates.
Sweden eliminated its wealth tax to attract wealthy individuals who can live anywhere.
Of course those invested in political power will vigorously oppose weakening state power. We are witnessing this in may nation-states today by those made state dependents protesting and engaging in violent acts. These useful idiots are empowering those who keep them dependent.
Cynical1
Nov 13, 2011

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Who's keeping Google honest?
Jeddy_Mctedder
Nov 13, 2011

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google is the government. they have partnered with the nsa. there is no question the nsa has total access to all google information.

google is the nsa. google is the nsa google is the nsa.

meanwhile, the internet is keeping the government honest. yea.
btb101
Nov 13, 2011

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actually, the only honesty in the internet is that which your government allows you to have.
a prime example is china. the government have an army of internet watch dogs to make sure their own population only see what the government wants them to see..
with increasing unrest amongst the populace, expect to see more censorship and less open government in the future..
ryggesogn2
Nov 13, 2011

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actually, the only honesty in the internet is that which your government allows you to have.
a prime example is china. the government have an army of internet watch dogs

Individuals underestimate their power.
One shepherd can control a flock of sheep but not a herd of cats or pigs.
The state is losing control over information and therefore less control over individuals. So what if NSA is listening. Its job is national defense and has limited resources.
When a country has a prospering free market economy, who wants to work for the govt spying on their neighbor?
hush1
Nov 13, 2011

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Speak. With one voice. Govern yourselves or be governed.
No object is too small (spitting atoms) or too big (climate) to take away the breath of one voice. A united voice.

Opium has infinite forms.

Schmidt is not your voice. What unites you really?
ryggesogn2
Nov 13, 2011

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"Nevertheless, a large proportion of the winners were companies with Obama-campaign connections. Indeed, at least 10 members of Obamas finance committee and more than a dozen of his campaign bundlers were big winners in getting your money. At the same time, several politicians who supported Obama managed to strike gold by launching alternative-energy companies and obtaining grants. How much did they get? According to the Department of Energys own numbers ... a lot. In the 1705 government-backed-loan program, for example, $16.4 billion of the $20.5 billion in loans granted as of Sept. 15 went to companies either run by or primarily owned by Obama financial backersindividuals who were bundlers, members of Obamas National Finance Committee, or large donors to the Democratic Party."
http://www.thedai...aft.html
If not for internet competition, would Newsweek be reporting such news about Obama?
ryggesogn2
Nov 13, 2011

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And, of course, with the internet, anyone can find data from the FEC about campaign donors. Assuming the govt is accurate.
http://www.newsme...midt.php
http://www.newsme...rank.php
Jotaf
Nov 13, 2011

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It's not surprising that Obama found ways to benefit his campaign donors, but it would be naive to not consider that the same must have happened with previous USA presidents. (In fact, we can easily extend that to presidents all over the World.)

Bush benefited the War lobby immensely, but in this case you're getting solar panels. Without dismissing the corruption, of course, it's still not as bad since it doesn't kill as many people.

I have a wild idea, so I'm just gonna throw it out there: End campaign donations, and finance the campaigns 100% with public money. Crazy? Consider this -- for each $1000 of donated money, the public loses $10 000 or $100 000 in bad decisions made to repay it. So it would actually make economic sense, in the long term at least.

And politicians can stop appeasing economic powers for campaign money and start doing other things. If they run out of silly things to do, it might just happen that they'll actually do something productive for once :)
Vendicar_Decarian
Nov 14, 2011

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"... anyone can find data from the FEC about campaign donors." - RyggTard

All that information available and yet the most corrupt President in U.S. history - George Bush Jr. - Still got re-elected.

Obviously there is a segment of the U.S. population - the Conservative/Libertarian segment - which is immune to facts that do not mesh with their political liedeology.

You know... People who are willing to lie in order to support their Conservative/Libertarian ideology.

You know... People like you.

Vendicar_Decarian
Nov 14, 2011

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Peter Schweizer is a research fellow at the Extremist right wing organization the Hoover Institution..

"Indeed, at least 10 members of Obamas finance committee and more than a dozen of his campaign bundlers were big winners in getting your money." - RyggTard quotes Peter Schweizer, Right Wing propagandist.

I expect that the progressive policies of progressive leaders will be supported by progressives.

Further, I expect that the Conservative regressives will naturally not receive as much support from progressive policies as progressives are.

RyggTard and his dishonest Conservative brethren would like this property of nature to appear to be corruption.

He might as well try arguing that Government funding to programs to prevent smoking are corruption because they don't also fund programs that promote smoking.

The only question is if these loans were properly vetted and distributed to companies without political bias.

RyggTard and his deceitful Hooverite source provide nothing.
Vendicar_Decarian
Nov 14, 2011

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Further... RyggTard's reference article makes no distinction between grant and loan.

Loans of course, must be repaid. A fact that the deceitful Hooverites and RyggTard would rather people not remember.
Vendicar_Decarian
Nov 14, 2011

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RyggTard's Hooverite source is so corrupt he was even worked on Sarah Palin's campaign.

Conservative Filth.

Vendicar_Decarian
Nov 14, 2011

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Speak. With one voice. Govern yourselves or be governed." - Hush

In a functioning Democratic system Hush's statement becomes...

Speak with one voice. Govern yourselves or be governed by yourselves.

Vendicar_Decarian
Nov 14, 2011

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Who are these Soverign citizen that RyggTard is talking about...

Here is a good primer of these American Domestic Terrorists.

http://www.youtub...X5S4S-sE

_nigmatic10
Nov 14, 2011

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The internet is under constant attack by those that seek to control it. Keeping the internet as a viable tool for the common person to give voice has been anything but easy.
antialias_physorg
Nov 14, 2011

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Who's keeping Google honest?

Google isn't the interent.

But I don't really agree with the article in that the interenet keeps governments honest (at least I see no indication of this). It only forces governments to play their hands and openly deploy information suppression methods - which merely makes it obvious which governments are willing to censor the internet (basically all of them).

Any debate about such 'oversight' in a law-making body should give one pause.
COCO
Nov 14, 2011

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Honest - ya rite - Google is part of the problem not the solution - forget Assage and his tepid intel that never goes high or deep on root causes e.g. false flag of 911.
If you want truth/honesty try WhatReallyHappened or RT - Western MSM remains pure BS supporting the 1%.
Vendicar_Decarian
Nov 14, 2011

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"If you want truth/honesty try WhatReallyHappened or RT - Western MSM remains pure BS supporting the 1%." - COCO

And in English this means?
ryggesogn2
Nov 14, 2011

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it would be naive to not consider that the same must have happened with previous USA presidents.

Obama claimed to be better and was not going to be THAT kind of president.

BTW, the transistor was developed by Bell Labs, for commercial applications, but the research behind that has a long history from JJ Thomsson and tubes to semi-conductor diodes. How was the govt instrumental here?
The internet was created for the specific purpose of ensuring communications to nuclear weapons silos after a first strike and was developed by MIT Lincoln Laboratory for the Dept of Defense.
Commercialization, and improvements, were performed by private enterprise for profit.
Vendicar_Decarian
Nov 15, 2011

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"Obama claimed to be better and was not going to be THAT kind of president." - RyggTard

So far you have provided no evidence to the contrary.

Keep Trying Tard boy... Keep trying.

"BTW, the transistor was developed by Bell Labs, for commercial applications" - RyggTard

The first patent for the field-effect transistor principle was filed in Canada by Austrian-Hungarian physicist Julius Edgar Lilienfeld on October 22, 1925, but Lilienfeld published no research articles about his devices, and they were ignored by industry. In 1934 German physicist Dr. Oskar Heil patented another field-effect transistor.

Funded by Government in Socialist Nations.

Poor RyggTard. Wrong about virtually everything.
Vendicar_Decarian
Nov 15, 2011

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And more Libertarian delusions follow...

"The internet was created for the specific purpose of ensuring communications to nuclear weapons silos after a first strike" - RyggTard

Ahahahahahahah... Childish Libertarian Tard nonsense.

COCO
Nov 15, 2011

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I will write slower so you can keep up VD - are you Texan?

Here is the first link to more intel than I suspect you want:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
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