White House orders review of energy loans

October 29, 2011

US President Barack Obama speaks at the Solyndra Inc. solar facility

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US President Barack Obama speaks at the Solyndra Inc. solar facility in Fremont, California, 2010. The White House Friday ordered an independent probe into government loans to clean energy firms, after a solar panel firm which took half a billion dollars in public money went bankrupt.

The White House Friday ordered a probe into US government loans to clean energy firms, after a solar panel company took a half billion dollar Energy Department loan guarantee and then went bankrupt.

The announcement by Chief of Staff William Daley came as Republicans crank up pressure on the administration over the loan made to California-based Solyndra and other outlays designed to spur jobs.

"The President is committed to investing in clean energy because he understands that the jobs developing and manufacturing these technologies will either be created here or in other countries," Daley said.

"While we continue to take steps to make sure the United States remains competitive in the 21st Century , we must also ensure that we are strong stewards of taxpayer dollars."

The independent analysis will be led by Herb Allison, a former Treasury Department official, and will focus on the Department of Energy's loan portfolio.

Daley said Allison was "tough, always tells it like it is, and we look forward to his thorough and candid assessment."

The White House announcement came after a Republican-led Energy and Commerce subcommittee of the House of Representatives scheduled a meeting next week to decide whether to subpoena White House documents on Solyndra.

Stephen Chu will also face a grilling before the committee next month.

President Barack Obama's Republican foes have been hunting for evidence that politics at the White House improperly shaped the Energy Department's decision to provide Solyndra with a $535-million loan guarantee.

The White House has denied acting inappropriately.

An official said that the probe conducted by Allison would last 60 days and would conclude with a public report to the administration that includes an evaluation of the current Department of Energy loan portfolio.

It will include recommendations on how to improve the system and establish an to identify concerns with managing the program.

Allison will also be authorized to bring in a team of outside experts to assist in the review of the portfolio and preparation of the report.

One report suggested that White House officials pressed for a decision on the loan to Solyndra so Vice President Joe Biden could announce the approval at a groundbreaking for the company's new factory in September 2009.

The Washington Post report was based on emails between the Office of Management and Budget and White House officials.

But White House spokesman Jay Carney said that the emails showed only that White House officials were seeking information on the loan to work out the vice president's schedule.

Republicans however charge that evidence shows that the White House, in its rush to push out stimulus spending, had cut short the final review process for the loan to Solyndra.

Critics of the administration say that the firm, once hailed as a shining example of Obama's push to create green jobs in a new economy, was instead an symbol of unwise federal handouts.

California-based Solyndra has now filed for bankruptcy, closed its doors and laid off 1,000 workers, leaving taxpayers on the hook for the $535 million loan.

(c) 2011 AFP

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epsi00
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 2.3 / 5 (3)
The fastest way to get rich. Start a business, get a loan of few billion dollars from the Feds and declare bankruptcy.
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 1.7 / 5 (12)
FROM THE ARTICLE:
1)""The announcement by White House Chief of Staff William Daley came as Republicans crank up pressure on the administration over the loan made to California-based Solyndra and other outlays designed to spur green energy jobs.""

So now Obama and his admin is back-pedaling to avert more political disaster for themselves. IF there was no wrongdoing on their part, then there would be NO NEED for the admin to have an independent investigation for and by, themselves. IF Obama, et al, were truly blameless, he need not have anything to worry about or conceal while Republicans investigate and peruse his dealings with Solyndra and other "green" firms. The Obama admin's rush to head off the Republican investigation is highly suspicious. I can almost imagine them having a "Sandy Berger moment" at the National Archives, stuffing documents into his socks and underwear, during the Clinton presidency
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 1.7 / 5 (12)
2)"The President is committed to investing in clean energy because he understands that the jobs developing and manufacturing these technologies will either be created here or in other countries," Daley said.
"While we continue to take steps to make sure the United States remains competitive in the 21st Century energy economy, we must also ensure that we are strong stewards of taxpayer dollars."

The first part is convoluted. The "green" or clean technology first has to be DISCOVERED and tested before jobs can be created to develop and manufacture the product. Investing taxpayers' money in the RESEARCH of the technology comes first, Then IF the technology is feasible after testing, the discovery can be developed and manufactured, thus creating jobs. He puts the cart before the horse. Where is the clean technology? Windmills? Solar panels? He invests OUR money and then fails to deliver.
Nerdyguy
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 5 / 5 (11)
Of course, this is no surprise. As I've said before, these clowns from both parties are pissing our nation's lifeblood down the drain. The bigger the program, the more dollars involved, the easier it is to steal. And, undoubtedly, for those inclined to do so, the more tempting.

Perhaps we should start adding a "Benedict Arnold" clause to these sorts of large cash "giveaways" (sorry, loans). By which I mean, the penalties should be more in line with other forms of knowingly bringing harm to your own country.
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 1.7 / 5 (12)
The second part is a big, fat lie. If he really wanted to make sure the U.S. remains competitive, then why so many ridiculous rules and regulations and the threat of higher taxes on businesses? These unfair measures are just a stranglehold to hold down the growth of American business, small or large.
And how is Obama, et al, strong stewards of our tax dollars when they won't even take the advice of the OBM people and investigate further into Solyndra before giving them our money?
Nerdyguy
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 5 / 5 (1)
"He invests OUR money and then fails to deliver." - Pirouette

Got a chuckle out of this. I suppose you have this image in your head of the President of the United States whipping out his personal checkbook and writing these checks? There's plenty of blame to go around for this nonsense.
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 3 / 5 (4)
3)""The independent analysis will be led by Herb Allison, a former Treasury Department official, and will focus on the Department of Energy's loan portfolio.
Daley said Allison was "tough, always tells it like it is, and we look forward to his thorough and candid assessment."
The White House announcement came after a Republican-led Energy and Commerce subcommittee of the House of Representatives scheduled a meeting next week to decide whether to subpoena White House documents on Solyndra.""

A FORMER TREASURY OFFICIAL. That is like the convicts taking over the penitentiary to let everyone know that they're not really criminals. Republican's first mistake: blabbing to the Dems of their intent to decide whether they should get all the facts on Solyndra and Obama's admin. How stupid can Republicans be? answer: a lot. Please refer to the Sandy Berger moment in #1
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 2.3 / 5 (3)
4)""Energy Secretary Stephen Chu will also face a grilling before the committee next month.
President Barack Obama's Republican foes have been hunting for evidence that politics at the White House improperly shaped the Energy Department's decision to provide Solyndra with a $535-million loan guarantee.
The White House has denied acting inappropriately.
An official said that the probe conducted by Allison would last 60 days and would conclude with a public report to the administration that includes an evaluation of the current Department of Energy loan portfolio.
It will include recommendations on how to improve the system and establish an early warning system to identify concerns with managing the program.""

Again, Repubs give themselves away all the time. Dems don't do that and you have to practically throttle Dems to get information explaining their guilt.
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 2.3 / 5 (3)
Of course it's politics. . .the motivating factor of keeping your political job and the power to invest taxpayers' money in unworthy pet projects favored by the administration and the kickbacks they get from said projects. Allison gets only 60 days to conduct an investigation and fact-finding whether or not Obama, et al, is guilty of treason to the American public. The DOE's "loan portfolio" should have been monitored closely by the OMB.
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 2.3 / 5 (3)
'OUTSIDE EXPERTS' chosen by Allison himself, no doubt.
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 3 / 5 (2)
A decision on whether or not to give a loan of taxpayers' money to ANY company, favored or not, should NOT hinge on a public official's date schedule or any other criteria, other than the trustworthiness and feasibility of the company's technology.
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 3 / 5 (2)
"He invests OUR money and then fails to deliver." - Pirouette

Got a chuckle out of this. I suppose you have this image in your head of the President of the United States whipping out his personal checkbook and writing these checks? There's plenty of blame to go around for this nonsense.


Your supposition is incorrect. It is impossible for the President or VicePresident of the United States to whip out their PERSONAL checkbooks TO PAY for the nation's debts or investments. That money is in the U.S. Treasury and the President has no access to it unless CONGRESS votes to give him that access. The Stimulus packages are a part of that overall giveaway, which include also the "entitlements" of wealth distribution to the greedy poor. To be fair, not all poor are greedy
Neither Bush had, nor Obama has access to taxpayers' money UNLESS Congress signs that right over to them, and with it is supposed to come heavy oversight to make sure sure there is no theft, inadvertently or otherwise
Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
Well, certainly RepubliTards would like to think that this is what happened.

But RepubliTards like to think many stupid things.

"The fastest way to get rich. Start a business, get a loan of few billion dollars from the Feds and declare bankruptcy." - EPSI
Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
"IF there was no wrongdoing on their part, then there would be NO NEED for the admin to have an independent investigation.." - Spirochete

If there were no investigation RepubliTards would be insisting that the lack of investigation was proof of corruption.

With an investigation they claim that it is proof of the need to investigate alleged corruption.

In fact, the issue is a non-issue. A viable American company was undercut by cheaper Chinese Imports that receive Government subsidies from the Chinese Government.

The U.S. company crashed and burned before it had a chance to establish itself.

Republican response - Surrender the market to the Chinese.

Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
"A decision on whether or not to give a loan of taxpayers' money" - Spirochete

Money is the only true American God.

Spirochete and the other RepubliTards seem quite content to surrender the new energy market to the Chinese.

Made in America is a thing of the past to them.

According to the RepubliTards, America apparently needs no manufacturing sector.
Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
"Of course it's politics. . ." - Spirochete

Yup... You are engaged in pure Conservative Politics to the detriment of your own nation.

Some dare call it treason.
Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
"The second part is a big, fat lie. If he really wanted to make sure the U.S. remains competitive, then why so many ridiculous rules and regulations and the threat of higher taxes on businesses?" - Spirochete

We all agree with you Spirochete. The U.S. should abolish the minimum wage, laws on child labor, workplace safety regulations, and most other regulations restricting American Corporations ability to compete with third world slave labor.

Doing so would save American corporations the bother of moving their manufacturing jobs overseas to take advantage of those third world slave labor camps.

Reducing American wages and standards is clearly the only way to improve America's quality of life.
Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
"President Barack Obama's Republican foes have been hunting for evidence that politics at the White House improperly shaped the Energy Department's decision to provide Solyndra with a $535-million loan guarantee." - Spirochete

After nearly 2 years you think they would have found some by now.

What's the hold up? Are your Republican allies as incompetent as their Libertarian brothers and sisters?

Au-Pu
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 2.3 / 5 (3)
The owners are probably strong Republican supporters otherwise the republicans would be all over this like a rash.
The Obama government that gave the money needs to follow the money trail and look at the prospect of deliberate fraud.
It should recover its money from the directors and any shareholders who benefited from this and if fraud can be proven then imprison the thieves.
As for Vindicar Decarian why lower US standards as you suggest?
Why not force US companies to pay third world workers at US pay rates?
That is a much simpler solution as it removes the advantage of off shore virtual slave labour in many of these third world countries.
At the same time it preserves US jobs.
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 2.3 / 5 (3)
@Au-Pu
I doubt that Solyndra's owners were Republicans or Conservatives at all. Solyndra was one of the favored companies by the Obama regime and would have given kickbacks to Obama's campaign if they hadn't folded.
I agree that the money should be found and given back to taxpayers in the form of another stimulus to small business that will probably provide many jobs.
I wouldn't pay too much attention to Vendicar. . .he's full of vitriol for Capitalism and seems to prefer Socialism.
Preserving U.S. jobs has a nice ring to it. But the truth is that the Unions are not in existence just to preserve the decent paycheck, good working conditions, a safe and friendly environment to work in, and a work environment free from harrassment and unfairness. The unions also want to force companies and schools to keep bad teachers and lazy workers who are unproductive while getting a good salary.
Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 2.3 / 5 (3)
That's why companies go overseas They know that there are better workers in Asia, for the most part, that will enable the companies to make a profit. Asia doesn't have as high a living standard as we have, so THEIR minimum wage is far less than ours. If we could somehow lure U.S. companies back home to provide good jobs for our own people, the Unions would drive them right back overseas again. Union people never realize their mistakes and do the same stupid things over and over. Unions don't MAKE the jobs, the businesses do, and they NEED a profit to pay their workers with, plus taxes, utilities, etc.
Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
"If we could somehow lure U.S. companies back home to provide good jobs for our own people, the Unions would drive them right back overseas again." - Spirochete

I see. So not only must the U.S. abolish workplace standards for safety and equity, abolish child labor laws, and the minimum wage, it must also abolish union protection for workers in order for American Companies to stop offshoring American jobs and start raising American living standards by lowering American wages.

Your Libertarian/Randite vision for America is now very clear to us Spirochete.

Pirouette
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 3 / 5 (2)
I never said that the U.S. should abolish all that you say. You are evidently either misinterpreting what I have said, or deliberately upholding your own "spin" on what I've said to promote your own ideas. If you are somehow able to recall, I mentioned that Unions have been forcing businesses and schools to KEEP bad workers and bad teachers on the job, which is actually detrimental to the survival of businesses and the educational system in America. Due to the Unions and their policy of forcing businesses to accept this policy of keeping bad workers on the job at high salaries, the businesses have gone overseas to find the best workers at a lower cost.
In case you weren't aware, businesses REQUIRE A PROFIT, since they do not operate on a barter system. . .so that they can pay their workers, pay utilities and other expenses, and still have some money left over to reinvest in the business again. THAT is Capitalism.
Too bad you are anti-Capitalist. I'm poor, give me half of your money.
kaasinees
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 3 / 5 (4)
"He invests OUR money and then fails to deliver." - Pirouette

Got a chuckle out of this. I suppose you have this image in your head of the President of the United States whipping out his personal checkbook and writing these checks? There's plenty of blame to go around for this nonsense.


Indeed. Bush cartel is partly to blame for your missing money, Obama is just a follow up of Bush.

http://www.youtub...Aaku7tFs

ryggesogn2
Oct 29, 2011

Rank: 3.7 / 5 (3)
The owners are probably strong Republican supporters otherwise the republicans would be all over this like a rash.

"Solyndra's other major investor was George Kaiser, a major Obama and Democratic bundler"
"Solyndra employees have donated more than $20,000 to federal lawmakers over the years, most of it going to Democrats. A breakdown of donations by the Center for Responsive Politics shows 72 percent went to Democrats, 27 percent to Republicans and 1 percent to Libertarian candidates."
http://www.washin...page=all
Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 30, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
"Solyndra employees have donated more than $20,000 to federal lawmakers over the years" - RyggTard

Yes. The residents of California are smarter than the Average American.

Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 30, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
George B. Kaiser is an American businessman. He is the Chairman of BOK Financial Corporation. He is among the top 100 richest people in the world and one of the top 50 American philanthropists

"How dare those American Businessmen invest in American Corporations. How dare they" - RyggTard
Vendicar_Decarian
Oct 30, 2011

Rank: 0.3 / 5 (25)
"In case you weren't aware, businesses REQUIRE A PROFIT, since they do not operate on a barter system. - Spirochete

And as you say, if their profit isn't sufficient they will fire all their American workers and use third world slave labor to make their products.

We all agree with the claims made back in the 1980's when your Libertarian Brothers were selling free trade to the American People. Free markets will improve the living standards of third world nations.

But your kind also claimed that living standards in the U.S. would not decline and that the U.S. would adopt a knowledge based economy in which the brilliant American People would engineer the products and the third worlders would build them.

Your Libertarian Brothers in crime who sold American Free trade claimed that there would be no race to the bottom in terms of wages, work place standards, employment standards, product quality or U.S. standards of living.

Your Libertarian brethren clearly lied.
Pirouette
Oct 30, 2011

Rank: 1 / 5 (1)
"He invests OUR money and then fails to deliver." - Pirouette

Got a chuckle out of this. I suppose you have this image in your head of the President of the United States whipping out his personal checkbook and writing these checks? There's plenty of blame to go around for this nonsense.


Indeed. Bush cartel is partly to blame for your missing money, Obama is just a follow up of Bush.

http://www.youtub...Aaku7tFs


Kaasinees. . .of course Bush is PARTLY to blame sine he did some pretty dumb things as President. BUT he is no longer in the White House, Obama is. . .and Obama promised the moon to his constituents. His problem now is that he gives our money away to all the WRONG companies and makes so many bad decisions when he's not vacationing or playing golf. Now he wants to downsize the military, get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and YET, he now wants to INCREASE our military presence in the Gulf while he is cutting the military budget by billions.
Pirouette
Oct 30, 2011

Rank: 1 / 5 (1)
Does any of that make sense? I would like to know what other "green" companies he intends to hand over our money to, and how much. If he had taken the advice of OMB before he gave our money to Solyndra, there might not have been a problem, but he was in a hurry to advance his agenda without looking at the facts first. What a stupid and immoral decision.
Jonseer
Oct 31, 2011

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The utter lack of awareness everyone here seems to have about "amounts of money" is PATHETIC.

Repulithugs talk about these things in isolation, because putting it in the context of overall govt. spending, would reveal their con.

Just how absurd is it to be up in arms about Solyndra well the ENTIRE amount supposedly LOST by Solyndra is LESS THAN the cost of 2 F-35s, a jet that has yet to be completed.

It is .0007% of our annual defense budget of 698,000,000,000.

When considered in the context of total Federal Govt. spending, the amount lost on Solyndra is the equivalent of a penny on the sidewalk not worth losing a second to pick up.

Yet in their effort to supposedly end government waste Republithugs are up in arms about that penny.

Anyone caught illegally profiting off the demise of Solyndra must pay the price.

Finding that out should be and is part of the Govt. routine.

Efforts by Repubs to play it up are just cynical politics and definitely a waste of money.

Pirouette
Oct 31, 2011

Rank: not rated yet
It is STILL a stupid and immoral decision. . .no matter the amount of money. Of course, Republicans have done the same in the past, but we have to observe and monitor what is going on in the PRESENT and FUTURE. If all we can do is snipe and gripe about Republicans and the past while the Democrats are giving away the store in the present and future, then we will deserve whatever happens.
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