Alcatel-Lucent: We've seen the future and it's (still) copper

October 17, 2011 by Nancy Owano weblog

Alcatel-Lucent: We've seen the future and it's (still) copper

Delivering higher speeds over copper

(PhysOrg.com) -- Alcatel-Lucent is promoting a commercial broadband-over-copper solution. Its new equipment design will deliver better broadband speeds with standard VDSL2 (stands for Very-high-speed Digital Subscriber Line 2) plus vectoring. Alcatel-Lucent says its vectoring approach helps to boost speeds significantly. The telecom giant is letting communications service providers know that the future is copper, still. Now, though, it’s a future with better data speeds and capacity, capable of broadband speeds of 100 Mbps and beyond.

The announcement that the company is taking out of the slow lane with VDSL2 vectoring equipment appeared in an article published in Alcatel-Lucent's TechZine, its online magazine. "Boosting VDSL2 Bit Rates with Vectoring" by Paul Spruyt and Dr.Stefaan Vanhastel, said that although fiber deployment is under way, it will require years to complete, in contrast to a copper infrastructure that is widely available.

"These existing resources can be leveraged to help many countries meet their timelines for universal broadband, and service providers can use the copper infrastructure to deliver higher speeds, in less time, with faster return on investment."

The company rests its case on the technology of vectoring, which is “noise-cancellation technology” Vectoring reduces interference between copper lines. With the help of vectoring, VDSL2 lines can approximate their theoretical maximum speed in real-world conditions. Telephone lines that carry VDSL2 signals are part of cables that have ten to a few hundred lines positioned closely together. This close position results in crosstalk.

Vectoring enables each line to perform as if it is alone, without crosstalk. Stanford researchers led by IEEE Fellow John Cioffi, began developing vectoring methods in 2001 for eliminating cross talk for many sets of wires at once.

The TechZine article highlights the following advantages: Vectoring enables 100 Mb/s and beyond over copper lines and allows a very short time to market. It offers a cost-effective way to deliver high bandwidth using existing copper infrastructure.

Alcatel-Lucent has started testing its vectoring technology with carriers already using VDSL2. In 2010, the company started its field trials with service providers including Belgacom, A1 Telekom Austria, Swisscom, Orange, P&T Luxemburg and Türk Telekom. Vectoring improved previous downstream bit rates by 90% to 150%, according to the TechZine article. Alcatel-Lucent will apply its vectoring technology to Belgacom’s triple-play network to enable it to reach speeds of 50 Mbps and beyond. Alcatel-Lucent claims the project will be the world's first commercial introduction of VDSL2 vectoring.

Technology options to fiber for delivering high bandwidth over the next five to ten years is a topic of great interest in communications technology. In most of the developed world, fiber lines all the way to the home still represent only around 5 percent of broadband subscribers. The price tag is a big reason for the small number, according to IEEE Spectrum.

Michael Peeters, chief technology officer of ’s wire-line division, notes that computation for VDSL2 vectoring can be demanding, because of a large matrix of cross talk measurements that need to be considered. ”For 48 lines, it requires as much processing power as a PlayStation 3.” Nonetheless, he estimates, in figuring the decreasing cost of silicon versus the cost of digging for fiber, that the cost of installing VDSL2 with vectoring is still no more than one-third the cost of running fiber all the way to the home.

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kaasinees
Oct 17, 2011

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The biggest cost of optical fiber is digging up the copper and laying down the optical fiber and the man hours for that, not the optical fiber itself. There is no reason yet to lay down optical fiber all the way down to the house, but i can ensure most main lines are already optical fiber, just not all the way to the house, because digging etc is very expensive, not because optical fiber is expensive.
Eikka
Oct 17, 2011

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All these broadband over copper schemes rely on asymmetric connections to boost up the downlink speed to the customer to sell with bigger numbers.

The reality of the matter is, that you can't really achieve 100 Mbps speeds over the public internet because the other end you're connecting to has an uplink capacity of 1 Mbps, and so do you. That's the whole point of the scheme: sell big numbers that people can't actually use, so you can sell the same copper a thousand times over.

Imagine that you have a thousand customers in your area, each with a 100/1 Mbps connection. What's the maximum amount of data going around at any given time in that network? Answer is, 1000 Mbps, because that's the maximum anyone is ever able to send out. If everyone else is sending, less than ten customers are ever able to fully utilize their downlink speed.
Bob_Kob
Oct 17, 2011

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Its funny because if i can recall correctly, alcatel lucent is providing the fibre optics for the Australian FTTH broadband scheme.
El_Nose
Oct 17, 2011

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i would rethink that position Eikka

in TCP/IP you send the inital get of the internet page or what ever you want to recieve -- then all you send back are tiny little AWK messages saying you got each packet.

Most people are not pushing data up - nine times out of ten people are pulling information down. Companies tend to push ... and creators of data push -- for those subscribers i agree this is not the solution for them, but they tend to be educated on the matter and know who they are. Even playing MMORPG which is a bigger and bigger part of the population this is not an issue of pushing data but for receiving.

if you have 1000 people in your area 990 of them are pulling data down in really short bursts - such as using a web page - the other 10 are using a PPP ;-)
Eikka
Oct 18, 2011

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Most people are not pushing data up - nine times out of ten people are pulling information down.


That's because most people can't.

What you're talking about is the cable-tv model of the internet where offical content providers provide content and the users act as consumers, only using what is being offered to them. In such a model, there's no Facebook etc. to which people upload their own content - everybody is just happy consuming whatever the company puts out. More importantly, the point of having such an infrastructure is that sharing data between users becomes difficult, and that saves the company a whole lot of money by saving bandwidth and therefore infrastructure costs.

Recently I wanted to access my files on my computer over the internet, which turned out to be wholly impossible because while both ends had fast broadband, the maximum amount of throughput was pitifully slow because at both ends the uplink was throttled down to less than useful.

Eikka
Oct 18, 2011

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Suppose I just shot a video on my pocket camera and wanted to send it to my friend over messenger or some similiar IM program. Both have these new 100/1 Mbit fast broadband connections. How long would it take?

Well, suppose the video is 200 MB. It would take 34 minutes before the upload is complete. Downloading the same amount of video from youtube would take a mere 20 seconds if the route is good.

Isn't this a bit antithetic to the whole point of the internet?

The least they could do is offer the option to pay more for a different distribution of the up/down timeslots on the carrier, so you could do perhaps 50/50 Mbit, which would still be remarkably fast, but now in both directions so you could actually do something with it instead of just watch youtube.
Eikka
Oct 18, 2011

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Though if people actually had 50 Mbps of uplink, they could host their own webpages, stream their own television channels through multicasting or p2p, video chat with high quality etc. without restorting to hosting companies and cloud services for their data transfer needs.

Would take a lot of money out of the business.

And technically, I think, I'm not sure, but the asymmetry in up vs. downlink is all the way down at the infrastructure level, with less uplink bandwidth leaving the area junction router than downlink coming in, and that has to be reflected in the end user speeds or else the system would congest.

That means the company can serve more customers with the same equipment by restricting what they can actually accomplish with it.
Bob_Kob
Oct 20, 2011

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I dont think thats the case though, seems like a pretty stupid argument to limit something just so you have to rely on 3rd party consumers for your needs.
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