Samsung seeks sales ban on iPhone 5

Sep 20, 2011
A Samsung Electronics flag flies in Seoul. The South Korean copmpany will file lawsuits to try to block the sale of Apple's iPhone 5 as part of its global legal tussle with the US technology giant, a report said Tuesday.

South Korea's Samsung Electronics will file lawsuits to try to block the sale of Apple's iPhone 5 as part of its global legal tussle with the US technology giant, a report said Tuesday.

The two firms are at loggerheads in a series of patent lawsuits over the technology and design of their smartphones and .

Maeil Business Newspaper cited a Samsung official as saying the firm would "strategically" launch the legal actions as Apple was expected to start selling the much-anticipated smartphone next month.

"We have not yet decided whether to launch the suits in South Korea or in a third country," the unidentified official was quoted as saying.

It was unclear whether Samsung would seek a sales ban only in South Korea or internationally. A spokesman declined to comment.

Apple has accused Samsung of "slavishly" copying the technology and designs of its market-leading iPhone and iPad.

It has filed complaints in countries including Germany and Australia, seeking a ban on sales of Samsung's Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab.

Samsung, the world's biggest memory chip maker and the number two after Nokia, has launched counter-suits claiming its US rival infringed its wireless technology patents.

The Suwon-based company earlier this month was forced to withdraw its new tablet PC from a major electronics fair in Berlin after a German court approved a request from Apple to ban sales and marketing.

Samsung however vowed to appeal, saying it would actively take "all available measures, including legal options" to defend its presence in the European market.

The company said last week it had filed complaints in France against Apple alleging infringement of three patents in the US firm's and iPad.

The complaint was filed before a Paris district court in July and the first hearing is expected in December.

Despite their legal battles, Apple is one of the biggest customers for Samsung's chips and display screens.

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Gezza
4 / 5 (3) Sep 20, 2011
Throw that Rotten Apple in the bin!
Gezza
3 / 5 (4) Sep 20, 2011
I want technology to move forward. Not be stiffled because of BS patents.
CreepyD
4.5 / 5 (2) Sep 20, 2011
Is this because they are allowing patents to pass which are waaay too specific. e.g. the exact way that their wireless works - Surely all wireless devices are almost identical anyway, since they all follow a standard?
Royale
5 / 5 (2) Sep 20, 2011
Although I agree with you Gezza; anything that screws with Apple is ok by me. =)
jamesrm
not rated yet Sep 20, 2011
"Is this because they are allowing patents to pass which are waaay too specific. e.g. the exact way that their wireless works - Surely all wireless devices are almost identical anyway, since they all follow a standard?"

I think you would find the Samsung patents relate to things like power saving which are very important as theses devices get thinner requiring a smaller battery. If the new Iphone/pads had to shave 20 to maybe 50% off battery life their viability would suffer
Gezza
4 / 5 (3) Sep 20, 2011
Royale

Like I said "Throw that Rotten Apple in the bin!" As for the patents, I was refering to Apples aggressive, non-competative, BS behavior. I'm surprised that they not suing farmers for growing.. hmm... those round, green things with pips. Are they still allowed the call them apples??
krundoloss
4 / 5 (3) Sep 20, 2011
Yknow, people dislike Apple for thier business practices, not thier awesome, cutting edge devices that the take the rest of the world years to duplicate. If Apple would simply stop messing around exclusively with AT&T, maybe actually produce more than one type of iPhone and iPad, and make thier devices a little more flexible and configurable, they would be the primary provider of electronic devices for the entire world! I guess a company can only be so good before they have to screw something up, right?
Royale
5 / 5 (1) Sep 20, 2011
Everyone seems to forget about other products. Everyone knows that there were mp3 players before the iPod, there were tablets before the iPad, computers before the Mac, and smartphones before the iPhone right? As for the flexibility and configurability you mean just like be every other OS maker? Apple locks down everything. I thinks it's great for the idiots that buy their products because it's make their their equipment harder to ruin. Other than that it's terrible... do you want to have no control over your system? I know I want as much control as I can get...
Noumenon
4.6 / 5 (48) Sep 20, 2011
Just because people buy Apple products doesn't mean they're idiots or computer illiterates. Unbelievable. I've worked as a programmer for years, but own a iPod, iPhone, and iPad. These are great products that do what I want. Apple has been ahead of the market in these products because they do it right.
Royale
not rated yet Sep 20, 2011
I'm not implying that every purchaser is an idiot. All the idiots I know own Apple products though. And to say Apple does it right? This coming from a programmer; really? So the fact that they write all their own firmware, write 90% of the software available, and play terrible with outside companies is doing it right?
It's actually laughable to me that the people that used to hate on Microsoft are loving Apple... If I want a DVD drive I can buy it from about 35 different vendors for my PC... sure the firmware isn't as immaculate but I'm willing to accept that to have a choice...
Noumenon
4.6 / 5 (48) Sep 20, 2011
Apple carved out a niche by implementing an almost Nazi control over their products. True. I wouldn't buy their computers. I build my own with all the multitude of choices you mentioned for each component. Many, non-idiots, have little interest in computers in and of themselves, but want to perform basic tasks using a computer. For them Apple quality computers would be fine.

My evaluation of Apple was based on the specific products, iPhone, iPod, and iPad. To the extent of my interest in them, these devices do exactly what I want them to do, and they do them well. Quality.

Their market is geared toward those who just want the thing to perform the task for which they were intended, ...play music, answer phone, gps maps, email, internet,... and who otherwise have little interest in them as gagets as such.

btw, the vast majority of software written for the iPhone/iPad are from 3rd party.
Royale
not rated yet Sep 21, 2011
Noumenon, thank you for a clear and concise response. Those are getting rare on here these days.
All of those points were good points. My only question at this point is of the 'vast majority of software'. By that do you mean 3rd party's use apples predefined API's without actually being able to see the code? That's the way I picture it, but I've honestly never looked to deep into it. Now of course I understand that every OS maker has API libraries, but developing an app for the appstore, android market, etc is not 3rd party written software IMO. It's like a 3rd party putting together a puzzle in a different way.
It reminds me a lot of those video game creating websites where you pick a character, choose how the toon acts, pick out sprites, etc.. then the people that use that go on to say: "I programmed a video game!" I think you can agree that no, no they didn't program a game. (Perhaps I'm digressing a bit here.)
Noumenon
4.6 / 5 (48) Sep 21, 2011
I think you're mischaracterizing API programming with those game creating kits you mention.

Yes, 3rd party developers are restricted to OS API and further approval from Apple. This is all part of the controlling aspect of Apple so they can offer a Clean software and hardware experience. Apple controls the experience of use of their products for a reason. This is not a failure on the part of Apple. It is a deliberate engineered strategy, because they know a large segment of consumers just want quality and reliability.

Royale
not rated yet Sep 21, 2011
Yea, I do wrap the two together, even though I know they're not. I guess I just don't consider 'app making' the same thing as programming. That, I suppose, is a semantics argument though. I guess my main point was, actual 3rd party applications. Those are rare in the Apple world. They make almost all their software. (Photoshop, ProTools, Office, etc are some exceptions) but there's no where near as much software available as their is for any other OS.
Like you mention though, if people don't care, they want something that works, and don't really mind inflated costs, I suppose it is the way to go for them.