Hubble successor in trouble
August 7, 2011 By Dan Vergano, USA Today
For years, astronomers have set their sights on launching a successor to the Hubble Space Telescope-one with 100 times its power-that could peer back to the earliest light of the universe. But funding for the costly James Webb Space Telescope is now under a cloud, targeted for the chopping block.
Amid the larger budget debate, a House appropriations committee vote last month proposed killing the telescope.
Costs have risen to $6.8 billion-up 50 percent from a 2005 estimate-and may go higher after another NASA review next year.
The telescope is "billions of dollars over budget and plagued by poor management," said the committee, in a statement accompanying the bill, which also proposed cutting NASA's budget 9 percent to $16.8 billion.
Astronomers and political supporters, such as Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., have mobilized to try to save the observatory, which is named for a former NASA administrator, not Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va.
Scheduled for launch no sooner than 2018, four years late, the 21-foot-wide telescope would see the faint light of the first stars, and peer within dust clouds to see planets grow around young stars.
For more than a decade, astronomers have pinned plans on the telescope, which would be equipped with tennis-court-sized shades that unfold to cool the spacecraft against sunlight.
"It will be a game-changer, revolutionary," says University of Chicago astrophysicist Michael Turner, a former National Science Foundation official. However, an expert report last year headed by John Casani of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, found that the telescope's cost had increased about $1.5billion just since 2008.
NASA moved new management in, but the report clearly angered the science spending committee headed by Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va. A committee report said, "that this step will ultimately benefit NASA by setting a cost discipline example for other projects."
When the July vote was taken, Wolf expressed support for the telescope's mission, but only if NASA undertakes fundamental changes in its budget process. He noted that budget busting for the Webb telescope, which the journal Nature last year called "the telescope that ate astronomy," threatened NASA's other science missions.
"Losing the telescope would be a huge blow to U.S. science and prestige," Turner says. "We would basically be telling the world we can't do great things anymore."
(c) 2011, USA Today.
Distributed by McClatchy-Tribune Information Services.
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Aug 07, 2011
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There's a debate about whether ground-based telescopes or space-based telescopes are more cost-effective. But the James Webb is designed to look at objects that are impossible for current ground-based telescopes to see. The price tag inflation is regrettable but it's very common for complicated new technology to be underpriced so NASA can keep in line with its low budget. But the solution is not to gut the project and the $3 billion already spent on it, sticking our heads in the sand. That might be smart to do elsewhere, but space is never going away. One day we will have to learn about it, it's our future.
Aug 07, 2011
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Aug 07, 2011
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We need to give NASA more money and less oversight. It works for the federal government.
And IF there is a problem at NASA, it is Bush's fault.
Aug 07, 2011
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Aug 08, 2011
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Probably because it is hard to project how much it is going to cost to do something never been done before.
Poor RyggTard... Poor, Poor Randite Tard.
Aug 08, 2011
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I really don't think that you people are capable of conceiving of the magnitude of budget cuts the TeaPublicans and Randites are planning for you.
Imagine 30 million more people added to the unemployment lines.
Starvation is coming to America.
Aug 08, 2011
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NASA has been working on a shoestring budget for decades as a result of continuous Republican budget cutting.
Bush's addition to NASA's woes was to direct them to develop a mission to the Moon and Mars and then not fund the program.
Aug 08, 2011
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Shaddap Commie. We don'ts needs no pinko telescopies looking at God's underwear. So stop stealin my money. - FreeMockracy Joe
Aug 08, 2011
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By definition the rich are superior to the poor.
Aug 08, 2011
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Replacing the name "James Webb Space Telescope" by, say, "Zheng He Space Telescope" will avoid confusing an internationally unknown NASA administrator with the internationally better known Andrew Lloyd Webber who has no relation to astronomy and astrophysics while Zheng He was a true explorer of unknown spaces.
Aug 08, 2011
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Why don't you just use Wikipedia? It's Joseph Goebbels.
Aug 08, 2011
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Yes, look how well govt wastes the money it gets it hands on. Including the JWST.
Aug 08, 2011
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I see us going back to the dark ages soon (albeit a more technological one)
Aug 08, 2011
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RyggTard shows why Science in America is on the decline as Republicans adopt more Libertarian/Randite beliefs.
It should come as no surprise then that Libertarian/Randite propaganda organizations like CATO, the Heritage Foundation, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, etc. are also the principle political organizations behind climate change denial.
Aug 08, 2011
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It is people like you who have put this country in its current state. The reason you hate/detest the people involved in the tea party is they know your lies and they are standing up to your progressive bullies. Next year election, if it is held, will bring down the progressives big time.
Aug 08, 2011
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Schmucks like Ried, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer.....?
VD and is fellow 'progressives' are experts at denying economic realities.
Aug 09, 2011
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It should come as no surprise then that Libertarian/Randite propaganda organizations like CATO, the Heritage Foundation, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, etc. are also the principle political organizations behind climate change denial.
Aug 09, 2011
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All are on the Libertarian/Randite hate list. The Rugged Individualist Tard Boy is programmed to follow his fellow Libertarian degenerates.
RyggTard can you tell us why Ayn Rand, your Psychopath leader was so adoring of a child molester/murderer who killed a 12 year old girl?
Aug 09, 2011
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Excellent. America will just implode faster.
Aug 09, 2011
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Aug 09, 2011
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Aug 10, 2011
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Wait, communist countries had elections where 99% of the population voted communist.
I am concerned that a reason might come up that will prevent next years elections, so I pray for the safety of all elected officials esp. Obama, I pray for the safety of the country. I believe we are at the tipping point so many progressive have worked so hard to bring us to, so I pray that no event will occur that would destroy freedom in the USA.
Aug 10, 2011
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We are watching the effects of religionist-mandated overpop erupt throughout the middle east and now europe. Apocalypse is a religionist specialty.
Aug 10, 2011
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Otto, you are a lunatic. I say I pray for the protection for someone and then you say I pray for his death. There is not one person or group that I have ever prayed for or wished for their death or harm.
Have you ever wished harm on someone or group?
Aug 10, 2011
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Only 2% of those with PHD's consider themselves conservatives.
The prescription therefore is education.
"If progressives like VD have their way, they wouldn't have elections where progressives might loose." - FreeDumb
Aug 10, 2011
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"Otto, my guess is that the rioters in England are progressives" - FreeDumb
Aug 10, 2011
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"Ron Paul warned that recent global unrest can be traced back to inflation-related price jumps for for food and other goods everywhere. He cited conflicts in the Middle East and North Africa and austerity measures in now in place in European nations with generous social welfare systems.
Rep. Paul warned that these crises could easily become more widespread.
Read more: http://dailycalle...UgY0uzCL
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And, of course, inflation is caused by 'progressive' govts printing too much money.
Aug 10, 2011
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"The socialist will, of course, see in this merely a proof that the more intelligent
person is today bound to become a socialist. But this is far from being the necessary or
even the most likely explanation. The main reason for this state of affairs is probably
that, for the exceptionally able man who accepts the present order of society, a
multitude of other avenues to influence and power are open, while to the disaffected and
dissatisfied an intellectual career is the most promising path to both influence and the
power to contribute to the achievement of his ideals."
http://aetds.hnuc...9875.pdf
Aug 10, 2011
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This also leads to the phenomenon that academics don't know much about how markets work, since they have so little experience with them, living as they do in their subsidized ivory towers and protected by academic tenure. "
http://mises.org/daily/2318
Aug 11, 2011
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http://www.newsci...ope.html
In addition, something strange is killing off pixels at an alarming rate in the detectors. NASA allows no more than 5 per cent of a detector's pixels to be hot by the end of the telescope's five-year space mission. At the present rate, the detectors may exceed this limit before the telescope even leaves the ground...
An independent review panel predicted that JWST is unlikely to launch before September 2015, more than a year later than planned, and will cost $1.5 billion more than expected. So I'm basically convenient with the premature end of this futile mission.
Aug 11, 2011
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VD and Otto, you havent answered my question. Have you ever wished for the harm on someone or group?
Aug 12, 2011
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The stronger the faith in the free market, the lower the intelligence and intellectual honesty of the opinion holder.
RyggTard and FreeDumb are fine examples of this principle.
Hayek argues that exceptionally intelligent people who favor the market tend to find opportunities for professional and financial success outside the Academy. - RyggTard
Aug 12, 2011
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Oh yes. I have encountered far too many willfully ignorant people like RyggTard and yourself for which death is the only cure.