Has graphene been detected in space?
Artist's impression of the graphenes (C24) and fullerenes found in a Planetary Nebula. The detection of graphenes and fullerenes around old stars as common as our Sun suggests that these molecules and other allotropic forms of carbon may be widespread in space. Credits: IAC; original image of the Helix Nebula (NASA, NOAO, ESA, the Hubble Helix Nebula Team, M. Meixner, STScI, & T.A. Rector, NRAO.)
(PhysOrg.com) -- A team of astronomers, using the Spitzer Space Telescope, have reported the first extragalactic detection of the C70 fullerene molecule, and the possible detection of planar C24 ("a piece of graphene") in space. Letizia Stanghellini and Richard Shaw, members of the team at the National Optical Astronomy Observatory in Tucson, Arizona describe how collisional shocks powered by the winds from old stars in planetary nebulae could be responsible for the formation of fullerenes (C60 and C70) and graphene (planar C24). The team is led by Domingo Anibal Garcia-Hernandez of the Instituto de Astrofísica de Canarias in Spain and includes international astronomers and biochemists.
Planetary nebulae originate from stars similar to our sun that have reached the end of their lives and are shedding shells of gas into space. In this case, the planetary nebulae are located in the Magellanic Clouds, two satellite galaxies to our own Milky Way, that are best seen from the Southern Hemisphere. At the distance of the Magellanic Clouds, planetary nebula appear as small fuzzy blobs. However, unlike planetaries in our own Milky Way Galaxy whose distances are very uncertain, the distance to planetaries in the Magellanic Clouds can be determined to better than 5%. With such accurate distances, the research team determined the true luminosity of the stars and confirmed that the objects are indeed planetary nebulae and not some other object in the astrophysical zoo.
Fullerenes, or Buckyballs, are known from laboratory work on earth, and have many interesting and important properties. Fullerenes consist of carbon atoms arranged in a three dimensional sphere similar to the geodesic domes popularized by Buckminster Fuller. The C70 fullerene can be compared with a rugby ball, while C60 is compared to a soccer ball. Both of these molecules have been detected in the sample. Graphene (planar C24) is a flat sheet of carbon atoms, one atom thick, that has extraordinary strength, conductivity, elasticity and thinness. Cited as the thinnest substance known, graphene was first synthesized in the lab in 2004 by Geim and Novoselov for which they received the 2010 Nobel Prize in physics. "If confirmed with laboratory spectroscopy something that is almost impossible with the present techniques this would be the first detection of graphene in space," said team member García-Hernández.
The team has proposed that fullerenes and graphene are formed from the shock-induced (i.e., grain-grain collisions) destruction of hydrogenated amorphous carbon grains (HACs). Such collisions are expected in the stellar winds emanating from planetary nebulae, and this team sees evidence for strong stellar winds in the ultraviolet spectra of these stars. What is particularly surprising is that the existence of these molecules does not depend on the stellar temperature, but on the strength of the wind shocks says Stanghellini.

The Large Magellanic Cloud Planetary Nebula SMP48, one of the star systems in the present study. The reason for the name “planetary nebula” is obvious from this image of a planetary nebula, which is much fainter and further away than the first ones seen in our galaxy. Image credit: HST
The Small Magellanic cloud is particularly poor in metals (any element besides hydrogen and helium, in astronomers parlance) but this sort of environment favors the evolution of carbon rich-planetary nebulae, which turns out to be a favorable place for complex carbon molecules. The challenge has been to extract the evidence for graphene (planar C24) from Spitzer data. The Spitzer Space Telescope has been amazingly important for studying complex organic molecules in stellar environments, says Stanghellini. We are now at the stage of not only detecting fullerenes and other molecules, but starting to understand how they form and evolve in stars. Shaw adds We are planning ground-based follow up through the NOAO system of telescopes. We hope to find other molecules in planetary nebulae where fullerene has been detected to test some physical processes that might help us understand the biochemistry of life.The accompanying image includes an artists conception of these molecules superimposed on the well known Helix Nebula. The smaller image shows one of the objects from this study in which fullerene has been detected in the Large Magellanic Cloud (SMP 48, from the catalog by Sanduleak, MacConnell, & Philip) The name Planetary Nebula was applied to these star systems because their shell of surrounding gas made them appear like the disks of Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus as observed in 18th century telescopes. The reason for this name is obvious from the modern image.
More information: These results are presented in a paper published by the Astrophysical Journal Letters, Volume 737, Issue 2, article id. L30 (2011) The team includes D. A. García-Hernandez, S. Iglesias-Groth, J. A. Acosta-Pulido, A. Manchado, P. García-Lario, L. Stanghellini, E. Villaver, R. A. Shaw and F. Cataldo
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Diamonds and graphene-like inclusions of meteorites are rich in light elements (H, He, C, N) and in r-products from rapid neutron capture in a supernova explosion.
Claims that these C-rich meteorite inclusions were "interstellar" grains were discredited when the Galileo probe found the same products in Jupiter.
With kind regards,
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Aug 12, 2011
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If you meant that Jupiter had isotopes YOU think shouldn't have been there, well you have never taken an astronomy class so your thoughts on this could rather less then optimal. Since those isotopes in the inclusions are not a case of only existing in the inclusions but are merely a matter of the inclusions being enriched with them there is some of the isotopes in the general chemical makeup of the Solar System. In other words it would be friggin weird it they weren't in the Jovian atmosphere.
Which means the inclusions could very well be pre Solar System. It is the difference in the ratios of the isotopes vs the rest of they Solar System that makes it likely that they are interstellar. Ratios, not absence vs presence.
Ethelred
Aug 12, 2011
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Excess Xe-136 from the r-process was predicted in Jupiter in 1983 [1].
Excess Xe-136 from the r-process was found in Jupiter in 1995 [2].
Isotope data from the Galileo probe of Jupiter were released on 7 Jan 1998, as shown in the video recording that C-SPAN made [3].
Manipulation of science for AGW propaganda is explained here [4].
1. "Solar abundances of the elements", Meteoritics 18, 209-222 (1983)
http://www.omatum...nces.pdf
2. "Strange xenon in Jupiter", J. Radio-analytical & Nuclear Chem 238, 119-121 (1998)
www.omatumr.com/a...ysis.pdf
3. "Scientific Genesis: 5. Global Warming Scam (2011)"
www.youtube.com/w...IFmZpFco
4. The Bilderberg Sun, Climategate and Economic Crisis
http://dl.dropbox...oots.pdf
Aug 12, 2011
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Yes, you know perfectly well that I read your papers. What does that have to do with the inclusions. It is the RATIO that was significant.
If you can't see this you really don't have a clue about the formation of the Solar System. No one, well not me anyone or anyone else competent, is claiming that a supernova was involved in the formation of the Solar System.
The evidence you have presented fits ANOTHER sun, not our Sun, being the source of the isotopes. You have never presented evidence that even remotely shows it was our Sun that went bang. Indeed the inclusions make it clear that our Sun was not the source as the Solar System, as a whole, has a different ration of isotopes than the inclusions.
The rest of your post was the usual crap based on fantasy.>>
Aug 12, 2011
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Now quit reposting the irrelevant crap and answer please these questions three.
What evidence shows that OUR Sun and not another is the source of the isotopes. Reposting the same stuff that has never answered the question is just spamming the site.
What distinguishes neutron repulsion from the Pauli Exclusion Principle? There should be laboratory evidence please support your claim for the first ever.
What evidence is there for the Sun having an iron mantle? The image you are so found of has only trace iron and shows a dynamo process in action with the currents flowing in hydrogen and helium ions.
Again the usual crap is not an answer. Write something new as the old stuff is the stuff that needs evidence.
Ethelred
Aug 12, 2011
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No one, well not me or anyone else competent, is claiming that a supernova was NOT involved in the formation of the Solar System.
Ethelred
Aug 13, 2011
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Thanks, Ethelred, for endorsing a concept that totalitarian science failed to defeat.
The Sun itself exploded five billion years (5 Gyr) ago, ejected the material that now orbits it, and reformed on the pulsar [1-4].
1. "Elemental and isotopic inhomogeneities in noble gases:
The case for local synthesis of the chemical elements",
Transactions Missouri Academy Sciences 9, 104-122 (1975).
2. "Xenon record of the early solar system", Nature 262, 28-32 (1976).
www.nature.com/na...8a0.html
3. "Strange xenon, extinct super-heavy elements, and
the solar neutrino puzzle", Science 195, 208-209 (1977):
www.omatumr.com/a...enon.pdf
4. Proc. Robert Welch Foundation Conference XII. Cosmochemistry, pages 263-272 (1978).
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Aug 13, 2011
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Where is the evidence? That is what I asked for not the umpteenth repetition of the stuff that is in question.
Rubbish. First there is no reason to assume it was the Sun. Second if the Sun had a pulsar in it then it could NOT form a photosphere as any matter on the top would be degenerate AND the hydrogen would undergo catastrophic fusion.
Which does not make the case for the SUN it makes the case for a supernova. The claim that Sun was supernova is unsupported by the evidence.>>
Aug 13, 2011
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Answered by neutrino oscillation. There is ample evidence for it and considering the exceedingly low and similar masses of all three neutrinos it would odd if they didn't change flavor due to the Uncertainty Principle.
Now how about you actually answer my questions instead of pretending I supported you.
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Ethelred
Aug 13, 2011
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Stick to a reasoned discussion and I won't give you ones. Each time you lie about my position or evade the relevant questions you earn ones. You could say you don't know instead reposting the crap I asking about. Not knowing is reasonable. Reposting the stuff that is in question is not.
Spamming the whole bloody site with nearly identical posts is what is annoying people. Those get ones for being spam. Just like the adds for knock offs.
To give an example Marbaker made her first post in 5 months. Its the usual Creationist hit and crap. However I have yet to rank the post. She has a few days to answer. No answer she gets a one. Idiot answer she gets a one. I am not holding my breath. Heck I might give her a two if she answers even if it is idiotic.
Ethelred
Aug 13, 2011
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Because you wouldn't expect the largest gravity well in the solar system, outside of the Sun, to have a large draw on the meteorites and asteroids entering the solar system providing for a small but non-zero contingent of rare isotopes....
Oh wait, you would.
Aug 13, 2011
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It's like they make this stuff up...
"Nothing by 98% Hydrogen out there guys, except in stars and planets..." -100 years worth of astronomy...
Then every time a new chemical is discovered in a lab, a few years later somebody comes around claiming, "Oh wait, it was OUT THERE all along, we just didn't know WTF we were doing!!"
I'd like to see one of these guys use a computer model to PREDICT an un-discovered molecule, and find it in SPACE first, then make it in a lab.
Maybe they should start scanning space for the emission spectra of some of Ralph Merkle's nano-machines. I mean, if there's a Type 2 civilization out there somewhere, then no doubt they'd have nano-technology, and no doubt some of the machines would even be the same as his early concept models.
Aug 14, 2011
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Given the fact that these each chemical compound contains very unique spectroscopic signatures of the substance, wouldn't a thorough, detailed spectroscopic examination of nearby nebulae be the first order of business when trying to find these exotics in the ISM, and compare them with similar, characterized compounds created in a lab.
New discoveries of C60 and possibly graphene in stellar atmospheres show the power of this method.
Aug 14, 2011
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http://www.chemmy...ium.html
Why did you make that up? It isn't true either. Not even counting Dark Matter.
http://en.wikiped...Universe
Three false statements in a row.
First that isn't false. Of course it is silly but it isn't false. If a molecule is simulated in a computer why would you expect it to be found in space before being made in a lab?>>
Aug 14, 2011
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That would be like expecting to find the earliest self-reproducing molecule on Earth. Not likely.
Ethelred
Aug 14, 2011
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http://www.cv.nra...nce.html
http://www.cv.nra...inal.pdf