A supernova that's super different
June 3, 2011 By Alvin Powell
Supernova 2002bj was the first discovered example of a new type of exploding star. It’s just as bright as its host galaxy, the smudge to the supernova’s lower right. Credit: University of California, Berkeley
A researcher at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics believes that a new kind of supernova is at work in recent observations of bright but short-lasting stellar explosions that dont appear to fit known categories.
Hagai Perets began working on the problem after coming across a description of a 2002 supernova, discovered by University of California, Berkeley, researchers, whose description didnt seem to fit into known categories. Instead of forgetting about it, he dove into past literature, looking for similar supernovas with unexplained characteristics. He found two, from 1885 and 1939.
He eventually tracked down the spectrum of the 1939 supernova on an old photographic glass plate he obtained from the Carnegie Observatories. Spectrums are important because the light coming from stars varies depending on the elements present. By examining spectrums, astronomers can tell what a star is made of and compare that with the composition of others.
After examining all the information that could be gleaned from the older observations and comparing it with the newer data, Perets said these stellar death throes are different from known supernovas in several ways. Like ordinary supernovas, they can briefly become the brightest objects in the sky, but they are more short-lived, waxing and waning in a matter of days rather than weeks, as with more typical supernova. They also eject far less material in their explosions and dont seem to be powered by known processes.
Its a very good puzzle, Perets said. This is very strange.
Supernovas are among the most spectacular events in the universe, marking one way that stars end their lives. They can briefly become so bright that they outshine their entire home galaxies. Theyre important for another reason as well. Because stars are fueled by nuclear fusion, in which smaller, lighter elements fuse to form heavier elements, they become factories in which heavier elements such as carbon, oxygen, and iron are created. The explosions that destroy stars create even heavier elements and scatter them over large distances to places, including Earth, where they eventually can be used by living things.
Perets said that these new supernovas may result from the explosion of a kind of star called a white dwarf and that such a blast may involve only the stars upper layers. Because white dwarf stars are smaller and less dense than larger ones, these new explosions may prove to be a source for intermediate elements.
Maybe it produces a large fraction of the calcium in the universe, Perets said. Probably other intermediate elements are produced in higher quantities.
Researchers at the California Institute of Technology have already uncovered another example of this type of star, called SN 2010X. Perets said more may be found now that astronomers know how to look for them, producing additional information that may help solve the mystery.
Were going to know more about these in the next few years, Perets said. Its going to be a puzzle for theoreticians.
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To solve the mysteries of distant stars, astrophysicists must first address experimental observations that showed the Sun - the only star available for detailed study -
a.) Formed on the collapsed core of a precursor star [1,2]
b.) Acts as a plasma diffuser that enriches light elements and isotopes at the top of the photosphere [3]
c.) Is powered by repulsive forces between neutrons in the solar core [4]
Earlier data and observations are cited in [1-4]
1. Science 195, 208-209 (1977)
www.sciencemag.or...74/208-b
2. Nature 277, 615-620 (1979)
www.nature.com/na...5a0.html
3.Physics of Atomic Nuclei 69, 1847-1856 (2006)
or Yadernaya Fizika 69, number 11 (2006) (Russian)
http://arxiv.org/.../0609509
4. "Neutron Repulsion", The APEIRON Journal, in press, 19 pages (2011)
http://arxiv.org/...2.1499v1
Oliver K. Manuel
Jun 03, 2011
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Spam spam spam spam
Spammity spam Cranking out spam
The Sun disagrees with you.
It does NOT have a rigid iron surface as that is impossible for a plasma of any composition. That you refuse to see this is not a sign of sanity as your position is utterly indefensible.
The Sun does not have a neutron star in it as the smallest neutron star possible is more massive than the Sun.
Any hydrogen gas on a white dwarf or a neutron star must eventually go BANG on that multi billion gravity surface.
There is no evidence for neutron repulsion. YOUR students table does not in way show that anything other than the Pauli Exclusion principle is involved.
None of those students are supporting on this so clearly they don't agree with your idea either.
Ethelred
Jun 03, 2011
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Now to be fair, maybe they're not here supporting him because he treats his students like he treats his children, and not because they don't support his scientific ideas.
Jun 03, 2011
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"like he treats his children"
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Jun 03, 2011
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Jun 04, 2011
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This is one of those things that you might feel that the answer is something you wished you had not found out.
If you really want to know you can google his name.
Ethelred
Jun 04, 2011
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Him and a couple of other guys like QC are really polluting this forum. I don't want to be rude or in favor of sensorship but it does annoy me that they just keep on spamming.
Jun 04, 2011
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Jun 04, 2011
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@vidar - yes we all dispise qc, and apparently he got banned and is back under his new name, which I cannot recall right now.
Jun 04, 2011
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So don't let me interrupt please continue telling us all how it all works because I guess the point here isn't to engage in a dialogue of discussion that may challenge conventional theories.
Jun 04, 2011
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Jun 04, 2011
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Try reading his crap. I have read it. ALL of it. Its utter crap. He has ONE table, some evidence of a supernova being involved the beginning of the Solar system and from that he has decided that he has evidence that NO ONE else has a clue about physics and only he is right and by god we have no business questioning him.
His table fits the Pauli Exclusion principle and he refuses to explain why we should that as neutron repulsion which he clearly thinks is long range but won't admit to that either.
Go ahead. Try and engage in rational with him. It can't be done.
Ethelred
Jun 04, 2011
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Yeah I'm guilty, simply by writing this post.
Jun 04, 2011
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More info and observations of 14th mag(peak) SN 2011dh can be found here: http://www.astron...ead=3401
and here: http://translate....886.html
Archival images of M 51 taken between May 30th and June 2, 2011 are being sought by the Palomar Transit Factory (see requirements & contact info in the post by "avishay" at the UT link. Visual observations by suitably equipped amateurs (and those using rent-a-scope facilities) should be possible due to the proximity of M 51 to Earth.
[one caveat is that the SN will only be near peak brightness for a couple of days, though imagers should be able to follow the fading SNR for a bit longer]
Position RA 13h 30m 05s 47 10' 05"
Jun 05, 2011
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