DARPA wants your ideas for a 100-year starship
May 23, 2011 By Nancy Atkinson
Will humanity one day boldly go... somewhere? Credit: Paramount.
The idea for a 100-year starship has been tossed around recently, and now DARPA the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, has put out a Request for Information (RFI) looking for ideas about how a long-term human mission to boldly go out to the stars could possibly happen. Its been estimated that such a mission would cost over $10 billion, and the idea has gotten $100,000 from NASA and $ 1 million from DARPA which means that as of now it is just that, an idea.
Pete Worden, the Director of NASAs Ames Research Center announced the idea last fall, and it received plenty of coverage, but not much publicized research on how the idea could possibly come to fruition. Worden optimistically said he expected to see the first prototype of a new propulsion system within the next few years, but that seem unlikely given NASAs frozen budget and a Congress that doesnt seem very forward-looking in their vision for what NASA should be doing. But perhaps DARPAs input could have some leverage.
There would be several technological obstacles to overcome, such as how to create an artificial gravity so that those aboard the ship wouldnt experience the muscle and bone loss that astronauts on the ISS have after just six months in space. Then theres how to manufacture food, and create other things the crew might need while they are out in the middle of nowhere. Those are just a few examples of what would need to be dealt with.
But anyway, a journey starts with a single step, and so if youve got any ideas, heres DARPAs RFI (hurry, youve only got until June 3, 2011!):
DARPA is seeking ideas for an organization, business model and approach appropriate for a self-sustaining investment vehicle in support of the 100 Year StarshipTM Study. The 100 Year StarshipTM Study is a project seeded by DARPA to develop a viable and sustainable model for persistent, long-term, private-sector investment into the myriad of disciplines needed to make long-distance space travel practicable and feasible. The genesis of this study is to foster a rebirth of a sense of wonder among students, academia, industry, researchers and the general population to consider why not and to encourage them to tackle whole new classes of research and development related to all the issues surrounding long duration, long distance spaceflight. DARPA contends that the useful, unanticipated consequences of such research will have benefit to the Department of Defense and to NASA, and well as the private and commercial sector. The information obtained will be used for planning and acquisition strategy development. DARPA will use the information obtained as a result of this RFI on a non-attribution basis. Providing data and information that is limited or restricted for use by the Government for that purpose would be of very little value and the inclusion of such restricted/limited data/information is discouraged. Responses as a single file in Adobe PDF electronic format can be submitted to 100YSS@darpa.mil by 12:00 pm (noon) Eastern Time, Friday, June 3, 2011. For complete details of this notice, please refer to the attachment, "RFI 100 Year Starship Study".
Source: Universe Today
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Of course, the on-board maintenance and crew leaves much to be desired.
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In essence, however, there is no need to include humans on exploration spacecraft. The Mars rovers have demonstrated conclusively how much better planetary exploration can be achieved if humans stay at home, the Voyager probes have done the same for space.
There is just no point in sending humans into space unless there is a clear destination and that is the job of probes. We have at least 100 years of probe technology and exploration to keep our imaginations busy before any serious deep space exploration (extra-solar system) should even be contemplated.
Get real....
May 24, 2011
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Obviously, as stated in the article, the private industry for such project would be about $10B. Right now the funding sits at $1.1M The article states that their intention is NOT to build a ship.
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I.e.
Power-
1.solar
2.nuclear
3.hydrogen
Just some ideas.
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Such design was proposed for Mars mission during Constellation era, and it seems very plausible to me.
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You're missing two 0's in that number, if not three.
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2. Robot resource operation on Earth's Moon for possible fuel candidates and water.
3. After 20 years of this, expand from our Moon to the asteroid belt or even to the moons of the gas giants if our technology has advanced enough to make this robotic journey worth while for long term resource acquisition.
4. Once an ample supply of water has been gathered and the ability to resupply a vessel that cannot land have been achieved. The last thing to overcome would be gravity. Unless we do more testing on breading mammals in zero gravity environments, humans after 100 years away from Earth, could never return. If we wish to remain in our current evolutionary state, we would need to create gravity on board. This is also the primary reason we have not yet traveled to Mars. Even a trip with no planned landing, which we also can't do, would leave astronauts possibly unable to withstand earths gravity after the return trip.
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There are a few key problems.
- Cheap resources (we should mine asteroids etc.)
- Gravity (duhh)
- Movement (movement through space is very costly atm)
Another moronic idea. Any fuel we can mine from the moon is highly inefficient for spacetravel. PLUs leave the moon ALONE.
May 24, 2011
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no. The moon is one of the rare places we can do very deep geological studies. We could possibly mine to the core to understand the workings. I understand the core is not longer active, but there may be remnants as well.
The building blocks of planetary science are there. We should explore and study it to all limits.
On the Dark side. ;)
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haha, yea. Besides Starship Earth is stuck in an infinite loop near our closest star.
What we should do is to attach huge warp drives on the sides of the planet so we could cruize on it around the universe. That would make us look cooler than any of the aliens.
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Building a human-critical life support system that will keep working continuously for 100 years without a moment in dry dock would be quite an amazing achievement. I applaud the goal and completely support the effort.
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Do you share what you smoke? Are you high? Women are vicious fighters, toolers and nepotists.
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Although it will may lead to some competition for attention, I can't imagine it would be anything like the full on murder, say, 10 men and 1 woman would create.
Plus, men are more expendable than women, since 1 man can still impregnate lots of women in 9 months, whereas 1 woman can only have one baby, unless she octomoms.
Actually, what abouts we perfect that stem cell thingy and let women have children from other women, and then have an ALL women crew. Better to send the fairer sex as our representatives, and make sure they are the most feminine women. gldj
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While not possible today.
If a quantum effect or method could be used to temporarily "spread" out the atoms and molecules enough to permit electromagnetic acceleration, greatly coupling the effects of a linear accelerator could be used to launch say a probe or object thorugh that window.
Some form of dissipation might re-construct the object at a distance.. perhaps in the vacinity of a similar window near a star.
The idea sounds a lot like science fiction. Or manipulating matter at a distance with quantum entanglement.
But that's how radio waves might have sounded a short time ago.
A practical step might be to use the lens gateway to launch a microwave study of objects in orbit around a star.
First by getting there, and observing radiation launch from there long ago
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Send a slow ship using conventional newtonian dynamics and gravitational assists.
When it gets there break in two; a relay satellite and a factory, send it instructions on "how to build" whatever is needed from raw materials it finds in the oort cloud or asteroids further in towards the inner solar system. Parts, people, whatever. Whether biological or mechanical human minds or programs designed to think like poeple could travel from star to star exploring everywhere at light speed.
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Hell, for 10billionUSD, Bill Gates, for instance, could afford one of these. How much would boarding pass and accomodations aboard this Ark cost? Far more than any of us could afford.
The concept is otherwise ridiculous. In order to put one of these in operation, you would first have to positively identify a habitable target world, yes?
Which begs yet another question...
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Besides conventional radiation shielding, active magnetic radiation shielding could be used in power-rich environment to deflect the rays.
http://news.disco...427.html
http://en.wikiped...hielding
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carrying a basket of firewood on your head. The more things change,the more they stay the same.
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