Tevatron atom smasher to close in September
January 11, 2011 by Lin Edwards
Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Main Ring and Main Injector as seen from the air. Image: Fermilab
(PhysOrg.com) -- The 25-year-old Tevatron particle accelerator in the US will end its operations in September this year since no funds are available to extend its life for three more years.
The Tevatron is located at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory (Fermilab) in Batavia, Illinois, and accelerates and collides protons and antiprotons traveling around a four-mile loop at almost the speed of light. The results of the collisions enable researchers to study the structure of matter.
Scientists working with the Tevatron had hoped it would be able to keep running for another three years, giving them the chance to find the Higgs boson (also known as the God particle) before their European counterparts using the much newer 17-mile loop Large Hadron Collider (LHC). Now they have been told the funds are not available.
The Higgs boson is of extreme importance to the Standard Model, the most widely accepted theory of physics, since the theory predicts its existence to explain how most of the known elementary particles gain mass. Scientists have been trying to detect it for decades, so far without success.
The Tevatron is funded by the US Department of Energy (DOE) and an additional $35 million is required each year to keep it operating. DOE Office of Science head William Brinkman has written to Fermilab, via the DOE High Energy Physics Advisory Panel, to say that the current challenging budgetary climate means the additional funding is not available. The Tevatron will therefore cease operations in September as originally scheduled.
The Fermilab scientists, led by Pier Oddone, had hoped the Tevatron could remain in operation to allow them to take advantage of the planned 2012 or 2013 closure of the LHC, which might have given them the chance to be first to spot the Higgs boson. The scientific advisory panel at Fermilab recommended in August that Tevatron should be kept running to 2014 despite the cost, but Oddone calculated only $15 million could be made available from the labs budget by delaying other projects but the additional $35 million would need to come from DOE. DOE approved the plan, provided funds were available, but have now announced they are not.
Many physicists say the Tevatron is more likely to find the Higgs boson because it has lower energy and cleaner collisions and the Higgs is thought to have a mass about 121-144 times that of a proton. The Tevatron may also be more suitable because its collisions are between protons and antiprotons, while the LHC collides protons and protons, so the Tevatron can probe connections between new particles and other particles that cannot be probed with the LHC.
Dr. Oddone said the Tevatron had exceeded all original expectations and had been involved in a number of historic discoveries. Scientists working on the Tevatron will be moved to other projects and will continue to collaborate with CERN, which operates the LHC, but the future of the people involved in operating the Tevatron is not yet known.
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Jan 11, 2011
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Sadly killing people has a much higher priority than gaining new knowledge.
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I dunno I think ten aircraft carriers is one too short...let's get ONE more, just to be sure. Because you know, the rest of the world combined has like two...
:-)
Jan 11, 2011
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Why ain't I surprised?
Jan 11, 2011
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*Raises Hand*
Congress? Isn't that what the constitution says somewhere...
I'm with you this far...
How old are you??? Where have you been the last ten years? Are you honestly, REALLY that stupid?
Jan 11, 2011
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One of the best military strategies available is to simply be so good and so powerful that no sane person would want to fight you.
In war, you don't want to be able to just barely defeat your opponent, or just barely defend yourself. you want to be able to win a fight with zero casualties.
The reason our enemies don't have as big a navy as us is because we had a head start in technology against most of the nations who actively oppose us, and now it's too late to catch up, so it's pointless for them to try.
If we scaled back our navy and airforce, the rogue nations such as Iran and N. Korea would feel emboldened and would make new forces of their own.
Jan 11, 2011
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You're standing in the halls of Congress, surrounded by supporters. You've gotten rid of a future nuke carrier.
Now it's time to apply the saved money into research aimed at finding the origin of the universe.
It's quiet. You look around. You're the only one in the hall.
Okay, so you've gotten rid of your carrier. If that's the important part why aren't you on an anti-military forum and not this science blog?
Jan 11, 2011
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And just to bring a little wake up call, the mad cleric from Iraq, Al Saddir, is now back in power in Iraq. Much as I feared, because our political divisions in the U.S. and our "political correctness" doctrine, the evil religion of Islam continues in Iraq, with many of the exact same mass murderers in power again.
How many more times do we need to see this cycle before dummycrats and other political correctness promoters realize Islam is the root cause of the entire middle eastern problem?
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Absolutely.
Unfortunately, dictators and madmen don't play by those rules.
And yes, our MILITARY FUNDING lead to us having tanks with superior range and firepower, and planes which were so good the iraqi airforce didn't even try to fight back. This is why we lost so few casualties. If not for all this funding to make our weapons faster, stronger, and better range, we would have had 10,000 or 100,000 U.S. casualties between the first and second Iraq wars. Instead, because of our level of military technology due to our level of funding, we won easily. That's the point.
Our military isn't good enough yet, IMO.
We need better UAVs and robotic probes able to do urban warfare and guerilla warfare better. We have had far too many casualties to roadside bombs and other IED traps in Iraq and Afghanistan, an embarrassing number really.
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ISS: $157 billion (world's most expensive objects)
Gerald R. Ford Class: $9 billion + $5 Billion R&D
11 G. R. Ford Class: $104 billion*
* This would only happen by 2058 as the last Nimitz class will be decomissioned then.
So, the entire upcoming "Next generation" fleet of aircraft carriers of the U.S. navy for the next 50 years worth of replacements will cost 50% less than what has already been spent on the ISS.
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Can't argue with that. It was a "feel good" project, so we can sing "We Are the World" with several countries and play pat-a-cake in LEO...whooopie!!
The thing is an even worse white elephant than the space shuttle was.
Jan 11, 2011
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Really? I think that may be a small part of it, but there are quite a few more factors than that which have lead us where we are. Moreover there are different "reasons" we're in Iraq as opposed to Afghanistan.
As to the pure reasearch, I'm ALL with you on that. Hell take 20% of the annual military budget right off the top and put it into nano-tech (or whatever).....shit all of you who love the fact that we're on top of the world right now would flip shit if we had even semi-mature nano-tech. We'd be "gods"...and no one would ever be able to catch up if we didn't want them to.
Jan 11, 2011
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More ignorant comments.
The shuttle was tech marvel and was only a failure if you look at it as a business enterprise. The technology developed has been and will be invaluable.
Most of it's failures can be attributed to the same politcal views which are part of this forum.
The ISS would have been a marvelous success...if it had had a mission...again politics, not science.
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Wouldn't need to with a real world outlook and without liberal viewpoints.
When your grandchildren are kissing the the backs of the hands of their PRC masters for something to eat I wonder how they'll view America's evil militarism.
Jan 11, 2011
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It was an unqualified ****ing disaster. Two of them blew up and the costs that they were supposed to save and then ended up INCREASING are the reason we CAN'T EVEN SEND AN MAN TO ORBIT when we sent one to the MOON in the 1960's. You don't know what the hell you're talking about with respect to this, really you don't.
Jan 11, 2011
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WE [Scientists and engineers] are the smart ones but we must seek to cast aside our stereotype as arrogant intellectuals and replace it with an image of balanced, capable individuals who are fit to be leaders in society.
Pieces of this include a focus on communication with the general public and organizational infrastructure needed to wield political clout.
Jan 11, 2011
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To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War
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No, but the F35 is a local air superiority fighter. Given that the US has never been under air attack (and is likely - due to its isolated position on the globe - to remain so there is no point for even having such a fighter.
thereason is that defense contractors pay kickbacks. science institutions don't.
Jan 11, 2011
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Pearl Harbor.
I hate to argue with you on that point, but the US has certainly been under air attack.
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(preferrably, not more creative methods of vaporizing the planet)
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LOL. Thank GOD you're not a military strategist. My house has never been broken into...does that mean we don't need locks?
*rolls eyes*
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*looks around* I don't see it. I know the LHC is likely to answer questions this facility can't, however I do think that 35 million is a small price to pay for the potential science that could be done there.
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We are in Iraq and Afghanistan because our Republican Administration used 9/11 as an excuse to grab oil. They lied to us to invade Iraq. We are still in Afghanistan because they chose to build a pipeline rather than take bin Laden.
MM -
You are one scary individual. Unfortunately with both nano-tech and AI the day is coming.
Jan 11, 2011
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I agree, partially at least.
Part of the problem is short view versus long view. PR plays some part, but don't be too cynical. Travelling the globe you see suffering on a large scale. Unfortunately we don't have the means to fix every disaster or stop people from abusing, raping, murdering, etc. each other everywhere. As a result "billionaires" send money to Darfur, Haiti, etc. to help alleviate suffering.
The long view approach would be to fund research that helps us eliminate suffering forever.
There is some middle ground. Stop the most atrocious acts currently occurring, but we also need to throw money at Tevatron, nano-tech, AI, etc. to shift the focus of our previous R&D approach - How do I kill more of "them".
Jan 11, 2011
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It's not just Islam, it's Judaism and by extension, Christianity. It takes two to tango, or in this case, two to argue over who's god promised them their lands. It's also our fault for selling weapons to the region for so long. Truthfully, we need to stop funding anyone over there since spending one cent of our money on a holy war is a clear violation of church and state. We are funding a war based on who's imaginary friend is stronger. It's sick, stupid, and tolerated because too many wackos in this country think it's necessary to fulfill ancient prophecies of the return of Jesus. See how wonderful it is when people welcome the end of days as the necessary conclusion to a story? Wouldn't it be nice to view regional destructions as bad no matter what?
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Still a pity Tevatron will close, perhaps if just everybody collects a few buck here n there..?
Jan 12, 2011
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Actually, that is the beauty of our western Ghodly religions. Live and let live just isn't the focal point. "It's Us and Them. That's all there is."
The answer is to educate and advance. Ignorance can be remedied. Elevate those lowest among us and give everyone a stake in a productive world economy. As we progress technologically we'll be able to include everyone.
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if collaboration interest ?
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The same goes with Iran. It is obvious with the administration's moves is that nation of Muslim crazies-that has wowed to wipe the ME beachhead Israel off the map-is NOT ALLOWED WHATSOEVER to have nuclear technologies of any sort, unless bought and controlled from US's allies, NPT wordings be damned. So lame sanctions are applied, instead of having the power to finish it off decisively and explain it to the world latter when the dust has settled. This forces Iran to learn harder faster and produce domestic hardware and software, will eventually like the West-shunted China in the 50's, nuclear self-sufficient. Then, all the Israelis and US can do is look on and make disparaging comments, again...Without real economic strength to drive technology research and development superiority, "paper tiger" is what we will get. Past glories can only carries so far.
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If you believe that Christianity does not fall into the above statement then you must not have attended many churches lately because one of the most common rants that can be heard is to hear a homophobic preacher tell his congregation about the evils of homosexuality.
Religions only serve as a means to separate us and to give reason to fear and hate others of different teachings. Most importantly they all serve to try and retard the progress we can achieve through scientific research and discovery because science has the power to dispute their beliefs.
Jan 16, 2011
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One of the key factors in developing the worlds most powerful military was the development of technical knowledge needed to construct the advanced weaponry we produce. This is of course the result of well funded scientific research and weapons development programs.
The problem for the US is that we have failed to invest in education as a priority and that is what will cost us in the long run. The trouble is we have already lost the race and we are just too damned arrogant to have realized it yet.
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I know, nearly all western media tell the same lie. That's because they are western media.
The west is doing with Iran what the German nazis were doing with the Jews before they massacred them.
Jan 16, 2011
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Ad "bad for social progress":
Buddhism was created for the sake of social progress in a society tormented by the caste system of Hinduism.
Ad "teaching intolerance":
The polytheism of ancient Greece embedded several foreign gods and goddesses into their Pantheon. Notably Isis (from Egypt) and Adonis (from Phoenicia).
No. While I was raised as a member of the RCC nobody ever told me of such an obligation. On the contrary, I've been taught that you need not necessarily be RC to lead a "godly" life, and that even atheists would be able to do so. Depending on how they behave towards their fellow human beings.
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RELATIVISTIC PERTURBATION MANTLE after my initials RPM. I was born to do this! I found a 12' sphere that falls apart above thunder storms and releases 500 gallons of Liquid Oxygen and a massive charge of electrons I believe to be antimatter. This is a dimensional object as well, after its birth it stays around for a short while displaying holographic stunts and then disappears only to return as the creater of a Sprite that was guessed at its manufacture by a Stanford Proff.. I have witnessed all necasary events to duplicate this massive undertaking which is quit easy if you understand its complexities.