CU-NASA research center to study Sun's effects on Earth's climate

Nov 29, 2010
Image of sun courtesy of NASA.

(PhysOrg.com) -- The University of Colorado at Boulder's Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics and NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., today announced the formation of a new collaborative research center dedicated to the study of the sun's effect on Earth's climate.

The center, called the Sun-Climate Research Center, or SCRC, will be co-directed by LASP Research Scientist Peter Pilewskie as well as Robert Cahalan, who heads Goddard's Climate and Radiation Branch, and Douglas Rabin, head of Goddard's Laboratory.

"The exciting thing about this collaboration is that we believe it will promote studies to help answer key questions about the , including how Earth's atmosphere responds to the sun's variability and how that affects climate," said Pilewskie, a faculty member in CU-Boulder's atmospheric and oceanic sciences department. "This question is particularly important now as we seek to quantify the human-induced impact on Earth's climate."

Made possible by a Federal Space Act Agreement, SCRC will foster collaboration between Earth-atmosphere and solar sciences at the two institutions. Opportunities will include a scientist exchange program between the organizations and the ability for postdoctoral scientists and graduate students in science, engineering and mission operations to move between LASP and Goddard. The partnership also will include international research symposia on sun-climate interactions.

"In recent years Goddard and LASP have worked together on several and missions," said Cahalan. "Now we look forward to continuing to drive growth in this key interdisciplinary field of sun-Earth research, bringing new focus to the study of multiyear changes in the sun and its influence on Earth's climate."

According to the center's co-directors, the SCRC represents a rare and innovative step that underscores LASP's ability to take its high-caliber research and program opportunities to a new level with Goddard.

"LASP has developed some remarkable areas of expertise that are key to studying the sun and its effect on climate and on human activities," said LASP Director Daniel Baker. "By working with our colleagues at Goddard, we can leverage our skills and help take an important step toward greater cooperation between NASA centers and leading university research teams."

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geokstr
4.2 / 5 (10) Nov 29, 2010
Are you telling me that, after all this doomsaying about the End of Days being caused strictly by the activities of homo sapiens sapiens, and all the denial of the sun having any effect whatsoever on what is currently happening to our climate, they're just now getting around to thinking about actually studying the sun's effect on climate?

Pardon me while I go throw up.
bbd
4.2 / 5 (5) Nov 29, 2010
Flash forward three years ...
Headlines read: NASA finds that Sun has no affect on Earth's climate. Climate totally determined by human burning of fossil fuels. Obama awards more funding for further research to support AGW hypothesis.
omatumr
3.4 / 5 (10) Nov 30, 2010
Congratulations to NASA and to the University of Colorado!

While ignoring Earth's heat source - the Sun - their chances of correctly predicting changes in Earth’s climate have been zero!

Predicting weather or climate is like predicting the path that a twig or leaf will take in a fast-moving stream.

There are many small eddies and currents that temporarily change the path, but only a fool would ignore the upstream and downstream directions and try to make long-term predictions on the position of the twig or leaf!

Ignoring Earth’s heat source – the Sun – is like assuming that the twig or leaf has equal probability of moving upstream versus downstream!

The heat source "upstream” from Earth – the Sun – is variable star. Orbital motion of planets cause the Sun to be jerked, like a yo–yo on a string, about the constantly changing centre-of-mass (barycentre) of the solar system.

"Earth's heat source - the Sun", E&E 20 (2009) 131-144:
arxiv.org/pdf/0905.0704

Oliver K. Manuel

barakn
3 / 5 (4) Nov 30, 2010
The denial is in your head only. There have been numerous attempts throughout the years to quantify solar influence.
Doug_Huffman
3.4 / 5 (5) Nov 30, 2010
Perhaps now the greenies will understand the meaning of the Solar Constant = 1350 Watts per square meter. No 'energy' can renew faster without indebting the future.
lengould100
1.8 / 5 (5) Nov 30, 2010
You deniers are buggy. The sun has been studied a lot in the past, and nothing has been found to support your theories of extreme variability. However, since you refuse to shut up, I'm glad to see a final unimpeachable source of definitive fact being set up to finally colse off that opening.
omatumr
2.9 / 5 (8) Nov 30, 2010
You deniers are buggy.


Look at the experimental data here and you will find that your imagined "unimpeachable source of definitive fact" is in fact an illusion.

The Sun is Earth's heat source. To understand changes in Earth's climate, see

1. Origin of the Sun:
www.youtube.com/w...e_Qk-q7M

2. Composition of the Sun:
www.youtube.com/w...=related

3. Source of the Sun's energy:
www.youtube.com/w...=related

With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
geokstr
2.6 / 5 (7) Nov 30, 2010
You deniers are buggy. The sun has been studied a lot in the past, and nothing has been found to support your theories of extreme variability.

However, since you refuse to shut up, I'm glad to see a final unimpeachable source of definitive fact being set up to finally colse off that opening.

Unimpeachable source? You mean the agency that gave us the insane fascist James Hansen, who called for trials of oil companies execs for treason, and who made himself famous in a congressional hearing run by Democrats who have admitted turning off the air conditioning so everyone would be sweating like pigs for their testimony on "global warming", oops, I mean "climate change", er, sorry, that's "global climate disruption" or whatever they're calling it now? And whose new chief has publicly stated that Obama himself has told him his number one priority is outreach to Muslims?

Oh, you mean that "unimpeachable source".
la7dfa
3.7 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2010
Nobody are denying the suns impact on our climate.
But we also know greenhouse gases will add to the total.
One of the most important jobs the coming years will be to make a better "forecast".

Anyone saying CO2 or methane has no impact is a retard...
omatumr
1 / 5 (3) Dec 01, 2010
Nobody are denying the suns impact on our climate.

Anyone saying CO2 or methane has no impact is a retard...


Please study the experimental data posted above and then comment. That is more effective than name calling.

With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
Former NASA Principal
Investigator for Apollo
Ethelred
2.3 / 5 (3) Dec 04, 2010
The experimental data is fine. It's your interpretation that is worse than dubious.

There is still no evidence that the Sun has an iron core. There IS evidence that a supernova was involved in the formation of our Solar System but in no way does any of the data show the Sun was the supernova.

Ethelred