Scientists discover new species in one of world's deepest ocean trenches
Oceanlab scientists revealed a new species of snailfish living at 7000m, never before caught or captured on camera
Scientists investigating in one of the worlds deepest ocean trenches -- previously thought to be void of fish -- have discovered an entirely new species.
The findings by a team of marine biologists from Aberdeen, Tokyo and New Zealand, have shed new light on life in the deepest places on Earth and the global distribution of fish in our oceans.
The expedition to the Peru-Chile trench in the South East Pacific Ocean revealed a new species of snailfish living at 7000m, never before caught or captured on camera.
Mass groupings of cusk-eels and large crustacean scavengers were also discovered living at these depths for the first time.
During the 3 week expedition on the research vessel Sonne, the team of scientists employed state-of-the-art deep-sea imaging technology, including an ultra-deep free-falling baited camera system, to take a total of 6000 images between 4500 and 8000 metres deep within the trench.
Large crustacean scavengers were discovered living at depths of 8000m for the first time
The expedition is the seventh to take place as part of HADEEP a collaborative research project between the University of Aberdeens Oceanlab and the University of Tokyos Ocean Research Institute, with support from New Zealands National Institute of Water and Atmospheric research institute (NIWA).The HADEEP team has been investigating extreme depths across the globe for 3 years. Their findings to date have included capturing the worlds deepest fish on camera for the first time.
These latest discoveries provide a new insight into the depths at which fish survive and the diversity of populations which could exist in the deepest points of oceans across the globe.
Dr Alan Jamieson from the University of Aberdeens Oceanlab, who led the expedition said: Our findings, which revealed diverse and abundant species at depths previously thought to be void of fish, will prompt a rethink into marine populations at extreme depths.
This expedition was prompted by our findings in 2008 and 2009 off Japan and New Zealand where we discovered new species of snailfish known as Liparids - inhabiting trenches off Japan and New Zealand at depths of approximately 7000m with each trench hosting its own unique species of the fish.
Mass group of a species of cusk-eel - known as Ophidiids
To test whether these species would be found in all trenches, we repeated our experiments on the other side of the Pacific Ocean off Peru and Chile, some 6000 miles from our last observations.What we found was that indeed there was another unique species of snailfish living at 7000m entirely new to science, which had never been caught or seen before.
A species of cusk-eel - known as Ophidiids - also gathered at our camera and began a feeding frenzy that lasted 22 hours - the entire duration of the deployment.
Further research needs to be conducted to decipher whether this is also an entirely new species of cusk-eel that we have discovered.
Our investigations also revealed a species of crustacean scavengers - known as amphipods - which we previously did not know existed at these depths in such great numbers.
These are large shrimp-like creatures of which one particular group, called Eurythenes, were generally far larger and occurred much deeper in this trench than has ever been found before.
Dr Niamh Kilgallen, an amphipod expert from NIWA said:The sheer abundance of these big amphipods was overwhelming, particularly at 7000 and 8000m, which is much deeper than they have been found in any other trench. It begs the question of why and how they can live so deep in this trench but not in any other.
Large crustacean scavengers
Dr Toyonobu Fujii, a deep-sea fish expert from the University of Aberdeen said How deep fish can live has long been an intriguing question and the results from this expedition has provided deeper insight into our understanding of the global distribution of fish in the oceans.Dr Jamieson added: These findings prompt a re-evaluation of the diversity and abundance of life at extreme depths. Furthermore, it is now apparent that each of the deep trenches across the globe hosts a unique assembly of animals which can differ greatly from trench to trench. The immense isolation of each trench draws parallels with island evolution theory popularised by Darwins finches.
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Oct 17, 2010
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I guess that at these depths they will be safe from fishermen.
This totally independent support of Darwin's theory is also very interesting.
Oct 18, 2010
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'independent', but Darwin's 'theory' really needs no further support - it's simply fact.
Oct 18, 2010
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Oct 18, 2010
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As a hypothesis, C Darwin's model 'overlay' accounts for pattern, yet does not seem as 'fit' as a life-science model could be. The model will change appropriately -- given time, and the age-related deaths of individuals who wish to stop its development. As for example with Newton's model, which by the 1940's had markedly changed. Biology is going to take a bit more time, given the myopic 'boosterism' which still surrounds it -- if only in order to define itself against other reality models. Ahhh.
Oct 18, 2010
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Oct 18, 2010
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Word salad.
Oct 18, 2010
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MUCH AGREED! WORD SALAD INDEED. HE NEEDS TO S-T-F-UP AND KEEP IT SIMPLE.
Oct 18, 2010
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Oct 18, 2010
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as for the word salad - i thought it was actually very concise - or at least better than i could have done in that many words. Darwinism is a scientific paradigmn that allows hypothesis to be tested within a framework .. eventually this will give way to a better framework and we will look at Darwinists with pity ... much the same way people in this forum regards creationists.
And just to be clear creationism is a scientific paradigm - that was used for years before darwinism came along
Oct 18, 2010
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as for the word salad - i thought it was actually very concise - or at least better than i could have done in that many words. Darwinism is a scientific paradigmn that allows hypothesis to be tested within a framework .. eventually this will give way to a better framework and we will look at Darwinists with pity ... much the same way people in this forum regards creationists.
sorry i was trying to edit that first comment - and ran out of time.
Oct 18, 2010
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Oct 18, 2010
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and that word salad is as you call it is actually what most people consider a complete thought.. or sentance. Arguably the shortest way to convey information.
Oct 18, 2010
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The theory of evolution is a complex body of statements, including facts, laws and tested hypotheses concerning the causes of evolution that is well supported but still incomplete therefore it is not a scientific fact.
Oct 18, 2010
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Darwinian Evolution is typified by the non-random survival of randomly generated organisms.
Oct 18, 2010
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Biology is considered a science - but the species are placed in groups based on personal observations and understandings of nature only know are we going back and looking at classifiing things by DNA or mitochodria ...
Science should be about measuring everything and figuring out how to measure the unmeasurable -- but science is dominated by opinion. And popular opinion. This does not make it fact. In fact Science is not about facts at all but about theories that closely predict outcomes that can be measured.
If science is fact - why do the facts change every few years/ decades??
Creationism was a fact 175 years ago - just as Darwinism is a fact today. Your inablility to accept the past - or the fallibility of 'science' is a personal flaw.
Oct 18, 2010
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I am not expounding on the joys of creationism - I am merely trying to convey that all the necessary objects were there for it to be concidered a scientific paradigmn.. and the main thing to be considered a scientific paradignm is widespread exceptance and usage within the applicable peer group. So until Darwinism came around what do you propose was the scientific paradignm of the era ?? spontaneous generation ??
There was a framework at the time I say creationism was that framework -- you say I am a fool ... but you have not given a suitable alternative.
- And my sentance is still valid and addresses a point of summerizing a previous statement. Yours does not address this point.
Oct 18, 2010
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I was asked by one of my math professors a long time ago why I placed so much stock in science facts.. and I said because they can be proven- he then asked me why do they change?
We lean so heavily on science that many people - and I was one- make science into this unrefutable religion. And its not, and it was never meant to be that.
Science merely gives us a means of naming everything we can measure. It can be disputed by Ph.d's but their disputes like our arguement is one of Philosophy- thats why they get doctorates in philosophy, and have to defend their argument.
Science breaks down into well defended arguement the higher you get.. and we call them facts.
Oct 18, 2010
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You can argue the minutia of statements comprising the theory as to their absolute accuracy and so on, but you cannot argue the fact that organisms undergo evolutionary changes and that the theory of evolution is a statement of fact. Darwin didn't know anything about the genetic mechanism that enables evolution to take place, but that doesn't invalidate the overarching principles of evolution. Indeed, in lieu of such knowledge, it makes it a triumph of observation and reasoning.
Oct 18, 2010
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Oct 19, 2010
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Oct 19, 2010
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I am really just taking the other side of a debate we were forced to have in philosophy class years ago. Many who had to take a few philosophy classes will recognize the basis of my arguements and the will know the progenitors that gave those arguements genesis.
I am being called a fool and such by Skeptic - but the fact of the matter is I believe in evolution. My arguement is that we shouldn't forget or discredit the past because we have moved forward.
I agree almost totally with skeptic's last comment - we are really just disagreeing on where to to place the science or mystisism or wahterever you want to call it that happened before the onset of the scientific method was established.
I believe very few people are fools. I do however believe that most people have had very different educational experiences and access to other view points. We disagree -- vote me a 1 on this comment as well -- rank here is like karma on slashdot
Oct 20, 2010
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